Has the Left won the moral soul of America?

[G.T.]

Americans Hold Record Liberal Views on Most Moral Issues

It appears that on almost every social issue of today, Americans are trending towards the morality of the Left.

Who believes this or does not believe it and why?

Also, does a society trend indicate being "right"?

And lastly, does it matter?

People's concept of morality evolves as human society evolves. Conservatives -especially the religious - are stuck in the morality of the ancients. Progressives are continually evolving morally. That's not to say that progressive morality is always right, but they are more right than wrong.

For example, given the morality of the ancients, not even Jesus spoke against slavery. Yet as humanity progressed it's become almost universally accepted that slavery is immoral. Modern government - formed by progressives (for their time) were WAY ahead of religious institutions in condemning slavery.

Of course many conservatives have a hard time conforming to the morality of the ancients much less modern morality.

Peoples concept changes but the immoral act of rape or murder or abortion is the same as it was 4000 years ago.

Not really. Women were subjugated...and murdered for heinous reasons, in heinous ways as well back then.

 

[G.T.]

Americans Hold Record Liberal Views on Most Moral Issues

It appears that on almost every social issue of today, Americans are trending towards the morality of the Left.

Who believes this or does not believe it and why?

Also, does a society trend indicate being "right"?

And lastly, does it matter?

People's concept of morality evolves as human society evolves. Conservatives -especially the religious - are stuck in the morality of the ancients. Progressives are continually evolving morally. That's not to say that progressive morality is always right, but they are more right than wrong.

For example, given the morality of the ancients, not even Jesus spoke against slavery. Yet as humanity progressed it's become almost universally accepted that slavery is immoral. Modern government - formed by progressives (for their time) were WAY ahead of religious institutions in condemning slavery.

Of course many conservatives have a hard time conforming to the morality of the ancients much less modern morality.

Apparently you have not read the Bible. There was a man named Moses, ever hear of him? If not, God raised him up to free the Hebrew nation from slavery.

But he was not done. Although he allowed for slavery in the Hebrew nation, it was used more as a way to survive for the down and out who were not linked to a tribe to help them survive. On top of that, they were to be released from slavery after 7 years of service.

But it does not end there. Moses even implemented a day of rest, even for slaves, something unheard of in the ancient world that knew work and toil 24/7.

So thank Moses for "evolving" away from slavery. No, thank the God that pulled the strings behind the curtains.

As for Jesus, he said that those who sinned were a slave to sin and that he came to set the captives free. What he was saying was equally revolutionary, if not more so. To think that God could set someone free from their internal chains despite maybe being a slave is astonishing and accurate.

I fully believe that Christian slaves back in the day were much happier than inwardly tormented souls like emperor Nero even though they had all the money and "power" anyone could want.

Thank Moses for giving slaves a day of rest?

Religion seriously retards your cognitive faculties. If morals are ABSOLUTE, then why the fuck did we even NEED to evolve away from some of the teachings of the Bible, huh genius? Why didnt the Bible condemn slavery then and there, if it was busy declaring the moral absolutes?

Oh.. I know why.

 

[G.T.]

Americans Hold Record Liberal Views on Most Moral Issues

It appears that on almost every social issue of today, Americans are trending towards the morality of the Left.

Who believes this or does not believe it and why?

Also, does a society trend indicate being "right"?

And lastly, does it matter?

People's concept of morality evolves as human society evolves. Conservatives -especially the religious - are stuck in the morality of the ancients. Progressives are continually evolving morally. That's not to say that progressive morality is always right, but they are more right than wrong.

For example, given the morality of the ancients, not even Jesus spoke against slavery. Yet as humanity progressed it's become almost universally accepted that slavery is immoral. Modern government - formed by progressives (for their time) were WAY ahead of religious institutions in condemning slavery.

Of course many conservatives have a hard time conforming to the morality of the ancients much less modern morality.

Apparently you have not read the Bible. There was a man named Moses, ever hear of him? If not, God raised him up to free the Hebrew nation from slavery.

But he was not done. Although he allowed for slavery in the Hebrew nation, it was used more as a way to survive for the down and out who were not linked to a tribe to help them survive. On top of that, they were to be released from slavery after 7 years of service.

But it does not end there. Moses even implemented a day of rest, even for slaves, something unheard of in the ancient world that knew work and toil 24/7.

So thank Moses for "evolving" away from slavery. No, thank the God that pulled the strings behind the curtains.

As for Jesus, he said that those who sinned were a slave to sin and that he came to set the captives free. What he was saying was equally revolutionary, if not more so. To think that God could set someone free from their internal chains despite maybe being a slave is astonishing and accurate.

I fully believe that Christian slaves back in the day were much happier than inwardly tormented souls like emperor Nero even though they had all the money and "power" anyone could want.

There's no doubt that Jewish & Christian morality were huge stepping stones in the evolution of morality, however those who believe that all morality is limited to the morality of the ancient Jews and Christians are woefully behind the morality of modern humanity.

Theres no such thing as jewish and christian morality, they borrowed from the secular learnings of growing civilized societies. To say it the other way, is to profess your epistemology as a theist of their creed.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Americans Hold Record Liberal Views on Most Moral Issues

It appears that on almost every social issue of today, Americans are trending towards the morality of the Left.

Who believes this or does not believe it and why?

Also, does a society trend indicate being "right"?

And lastly, does it matter?

People's concept of morality evolves as human society evolves. Conservatives -especially the religious - are stuck in the morality of the ancients. Progressives are continually evolving morally. That's not to say that progressive morality is always right, but they are more right than wrong.

For example, given the morality of the ancients, not even Jesus spoke against slavery. Yet as humanity progressed it's become almost universally accepted that slavery is immoral. Modern government - formed by progressives (for their time) were WAY ahead of religious institutions in condemning slavery.

Of course many conservatives have a hard time conforming to the morality of the ancients much less modern morality.

Apparently you have not read the Bible. There was a man named Moses, ever hear of him? If not, God raised him up to free the Hebrew nation from slavery.

But he was not done. Although he allowed for slavery in the Hebrew nation, it was used more as a way to survive for the down and out who were not linked to a tribe to help them survive. On top of that, they were to be released from slavery after 7 years of service.

But it does not end there. Moses even implemented a day of rest, even for slaves, something unheard of in the ancient world that knew work and toil 24/7.

So thank Moses for "evolving" away from slavery. No, thank the God that pulled the strings behind the curtains.

As for Jesus, he said that those who sinned were a slave to sin and that he came to set the captives free. What he was saying was equally revolutionary, if not more so. To think that God could set someone free from their internal chains despite maybe being a slave is astonishing and accurate.

I fully believe that Christian slaves back in the day were much happier than inwardly tormented souls like emperor Nero even though they had all the money and "power" anyone could want.

Thank Moses for giving slaves a day of rest?

Religion seriously retards your cognitive faculties. If morals are ABSOLUTE, then why the fuck did we even NEED to evolve away from some of the teachings of the Bible, huh genius? Why didnt the Bible condemn slavery then and there, if it was busy declaring the moral absolutes?

Oh.. I know why.

Morals are absolutes. Slavery was condemned.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Americans Hold Record Liberal Views on Most Moral Issues

It appears that on almost every social issue of today, Americans are trending towards the morality of the Left.

Who believes this or does not believe it and why?

Also, does a society trend indicate being "right"?

And lastly, does it matter?

People's concept of morality evolves as human society evolves. Conservatives -especially the religious - are stuck in the morality of the ancients. Progressives are continually evolving morally. That's not to say that progressive morality is always right, but they are more right than wrong.

For example, given the morality of the ancients, not even Jesus spoke against slavery. Yet as humanity progressed it's become almost universally accepted that slavery is immoral. Modern government - formed by progressives (for their time) were WAY ahead of religious institutions in condemning slavery.

Of course many conservatives have a hard time conforming to the morality of the ancients much less modern morality.

Peoples concept changes but the immoral act of rape or murder or abortion is the same as it was 4000 years ago.

Not really. Women were subjugated...and murdered for heinous reasons, in heinous ways as well back then.

It was just as immoral then as it is now.

 

[G.T.]

Americans Hold Record Liberal Views on Most Moral Issues

It appears that on almost every social issue of today, Americans are trending towards the morality of the Left.

Who believes this or does not believe it and why?

Also, does a society trend indicate being "right"?

And lastly, does it matter?

People's concept of morality evolves as human society evolves. Conservatives -especially the religious - are stuck in the morality of the ancients. Progressives are continually evolving morally. That's not to say that progressive morality is always right, but they are more right than wrong.

For example, given the morality of the ancients, not even Jesus spoke against slavery. Yet as humanity progressed it's become almost universally accepted that slavery is immoral. Modern government - formed by progressives (for their time) were WAY ahead of religious institutions in condemning slavery.

Of course many conservatives have a hard time conforming to the morality of the ancients much less modern morality.

Apparently you have not read the Bible. There was a man named Moses, ever hear of him? If not, God raised him up to free the Hebrew nation from slavery.

But he was not done. Although he allowed for slavery in the Hebrew nation, it was used more as a way to survive for the down and out who were not linked to a tribe to help them survive. On top of that, they were to be released from slavery after 7 years of service.

But it does not end there. Moses even implemented a day of rest, even for slaves, something unheard of in the ancient world that knew work and toil 24/7.

So thank Moses for "evolving" away from slavery. No, thank the God that pulled the strings behind the curtains.

As for Jesus, he said that those who sinned were a slave to sin and that he came to set the captives free. What he was saying was equally revolutionary, if not more so. To think that God could set someone free from their internal chains despite maybe being a slave is astonishing and accurate.

I fully believe that Christian slaves back in the day were much happier than inwardly tormented souls like emperor Nero even though they had all the money and "power" anyone could want.

Thank Moses for giving slaves a day of rest?

Religion seriously retards your cognitive faculties. If morals are ABSOLUTE, then why the fuck did we even NEED to evolve away from some of the teachings of the Bible, huh genius? Why didnt the Bible condemn slavery then and there, if it was busy declaring the moral absolutes?

Oh.. I know why.

Morals are absolutes. Slavery was condemned.

The Bible condoned slavery, as well as genocide and baby killing.

Just because it sounds monstrous to you now, doesnt mean it isnt there. It means youre in a forced denial, else... whats the moral standing anymore but another historic reference to the morals of the day

 

[G.T.]

Americans Hold Record Liberal Views on Most Moral Issues

It appears that on almost every social issue of today, Americans are trending towards the morality of the Left.

Who believes this or does not believe it and why?

Also, does a society trend indicate being "right"?

And lastly, does it matter?

People's concept of morality evolves as human society evolves. Conservatives -especially the religious - are stuck in the morality of the ancients. Progressives are continually evolving morally. That's not to say that progressive morality is always right, but they are more right than wrong.

For example, given the morality of the ancients, not even Jesus spoke against slavery. Yet as humanity progressed it's become almost universally accepted that slavery is immoral. Modern government - formed by progressives (for their time) were WAY ahead of religious institutions in condemning slavery.

Of course many conservatives have a hard time conforming to the morality of the ancients much less modern morality.

Peoples concept changes but the immoral act of rape or murder or abortion is the same as it was 4000 years ago.

Not really. Women were subjugated...and murdered for heinous reasons, in heinous ways as well back then.

It was just as immoral then as it is now.

What was moral and immoral is quite different from how it was considered...and stoning women was considered moral and in some places, still is. Its kinda gross.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Americans Hold Record Liberal Views on Most Moral Issues

It appears that on almost every social issue of today, Americans are trending towards the morality of the Left.

Who believes this or does not believe it and why?

Also, does a society trend indicate being "right"?

And lastly, does it matter?

People's concept of morality evolves as human society evolves. Conservatives -especially the religious - are stuck in the morality of the ancients. Progressives are continually evolving morally. That's not to say that progressive morality is always right, but they are more right than wrong.

For example, given the morality of the ancients, not even Jesus spoke against slavery. Yet as humanity progressed it's become almost universally accepted that slavery is immoral. Modern government - formed by progressives (for their time) were WAY ahead of religious institutions in condemning slavery.

Of course many conservatives have a hard time conforming to the morality of the ancients much less modern morality.

Apparently you have not read the Bible. There was a man named Moses, ever hear of him? If not, God raised him up to free the Hebrew nation from slavery.

But he was not done. Although he allowed for slavery in the Hebrew nation, it was used more as a way to survive for the down and out who were not linked to a tribe to help them survive. On top of that, they were to be released from slavery after 7 years of service.

But it does not end there. Moses even implemented a day of rest, even for slaves, something unheard of in the ancient world that knew work and toil 24/7.

So thank Moses for "evolving" away from slavery. No, thank the God that pulled the strings behind the curtains.

As for Jesus, he said that those who sinned were a slave to sin and that he came to set the captives free. What he was saying was equally revolutionary, if not more so. To think that God could set someone free from their internal chains despite maybe being a slave is astonishing and accurate.

I fully believe that Christian slaves back in the day were much happier than inwardly tormented souls like emperor Nero even though they had all the money and "power" anyone could want.

Thank Moses for giving slaves a day of rest?

Religion seriously retards your cognitive faculties. If morals are ABSOLUTE, then why the fuck did we even NEED to evolve away from some of the teachings of the Bible, huh genius? Why didnt the Bible condemn slavery then and there, if it was busy declaring the moral absolutes?

Oh.. I know why.

Morals are absolutes. Slavery was condemned.

The Bible condoned slavery, as well as genocide and baby killing.

Just because it sounds monstrous to you now, doesnt mean it isnt there. It means youre in a forced denial, else... whats the moral standing anymore but another historic reference to the morals of the day

Americans Hold Record Liberal Views on Most Moral Issues

It appears that on almost every social issue of today, Americans are trending towards the morality of the Left.

Who believes this or does not believe it and why?

Also, does a society trend indicate being "right"?

And lastly, does it matter?

People's concept of morality evolves as human society evolves. Conservatives -especially the religious - are stuck in the morality of the ancients. Progressives are continually evolving morally. That's not to say that progressive morality is always right, but they are more right than wrong.

For example, given the morality of the ancients, not even Jesus spoke against slavery. Yet as humanity progressed it's become almost universally accepted that slavery is immoral. Modern government - formed by progressives (for their time) were WAY ahead of religious institutions in condemning slavery.

Of course many conservatives have a hard time conforming to the morality of the ancients much less modern morality.

Apparently you have not read the Bible. There was a man named Moses, ever hear of him? If not, God raised him up to free the Hebrew nation from slavery.

But he was not done. Although he allowed for slavery in the Hebrew nation, it was used more as a way to survive for the down and out who were not linked to a tribe to help them survive. On top of that, they were to be released from slavery after 7 years of service.

But it does not end there. Moses even implemented a day of rest, even for slaves, something unheard of in the ancient world that knew work and toil 24/7.

So thank Moses for "evolving" away from slavery. No, thank the God that pulled the strings behind the curtains.

As for Jesus, he said that those who sinned were a slave to sin and that he came to set the captives free. What he was saying was equally revolutionary, if not more so. To think that God could set someone free from their internal chains despite maybe being a slave is astonishing and accurate.

I fully believe that Christian slaves back in the day were much happier than inwardly tormented souls like emperor Nero even though they had all the money and "power" anyone could want.

Thank Moses for giving slaves a day of rest?

Religion seriously retards your cognitive faculties. If morals are ABSOLUTE, then why the fuck did we even NEED to evolve away from some of the teachings of the Bible, huh genius? Why didnt the Bible condemn slavery then and there, if it was busy declaring the moral absolutes?

Oh.. I know why.

Morals are absolutes. Slavery was condemned.

The Bible condoned slavery, as well as genocide and baby killing.

Just because it sounds monstrous to you now, doesnt mean it isnt there. It means youre in a forced denial, else... whats the moral standing anymore but another historic reference to the morals of the day

No, you're wrong. They were killing children for their gods.

"You shall not behave thus toward the LORD your God, for every abominable act which the LORD hates they have done for their gods; for they even burn their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Americans Hold Record Liberal Views on Most Moral Issues

It appears that on almost every social issue of today, Americans are trending towards the morality of the Left.

Who believes this or does not believe it and why?

Also, does a society trend indicate being "right"?

And lastly, does it matter?

People's concept of morality evolves as human society evolves. Conservatives -especially the religious - are stuck in the morality of the ancients. Progressives are continually evolving morally. That's not to say that progressive morality is always right, but they are more right than wrong.

For example, given the morality of the ancients, not even Jesus spoke against slavery. Yet as humanity progressed it's become almost universally accepted that slavery is immoral. Modern government - formed by progressives (for their time) were WAY ahead of religious institutions in condemning slavery.

Of course many conservatives have a hard time conforming to the morality of the ancients much less modern morality.

Peoples concept changes but the immoral act of rape or murder or abortion is the same as it was 4000 years ago.

Not really. Women were subjugated...and murdered for heinous reasons, in heinous ways as well back then.

It was just as immoral then as it is now.

What was moral and immoral is quite different from how it was considered...and stoning women was considered moral and in some places, still is. Its kinda gross.

Its considered moral in the ME to stone women. It was never moral under God.

 

[Kondor3]

Amoral Lefties don't believe in God and an Afterlife... you can't "win" a "soul" that you don't believe in.

 

[G.T.]

People's concept of morality evolves as human society evolves. Conservatives -especially the religious - are stuck in the morality of the ancients. Progressives are continually evolving morally. That's not to say that progressive morality is always right, but they are more right than wrong.

For example, given the morality of the ancients, not even Jesus spoke against slavery. Yet as humanity progressed it's become almost universally accepted that slavery is immoral. Modern government - formed by progressives (for their time) were WAY ahead of religious institutions in condemning slavery.

Of course many conservatives have a hard time conforming to the morality of the ancients much less modern morality.

Apparently you have not read the Bible. There was a man named Moses, ever hear of him? If not, God raised him up to free the Hebrew nation from slavery.

But he was not done. Although he allowed for slavery in the Hebrew nation, it was used more as a way to survive for the down and out who were not linked to a tribe to help them survive. On top of that, they were to be released from slavery after 7 years of service.

But it does not end there. Moses even implemented a day of rest, even for slaves, something unheard of in the ancient world that knew work and toil 24/7.

So thank Moses for "evolving" away from slavery. No, thank the God that pulled the strings behind the curtains.

As for Jesus, he said that those who sinned were a slave to sin and that he came to set the captives free. What he was saying was equally revolutionary, if not more so. To think that God could set someone free from their internal chains despite maybe being a slave is astonishing and accurate.

I fully believe that Christian slaves back in the day were much happier than inwardly tormented souls like emperor Nero even though they had all the money and "power" anyone could want.

Thank Moses for giving slaves a day of rest?

Religion seriously retards your cognitive faculties. If morals are ABSOLUTE, then why the fuck did we even NEED to evolve away from some of the teachings of the Bible, huh genius? Why didnt the Bible condemn slavery then and there, if it was busy declaring the moral absolutes?

Oh.. I know why.

Morals are absolutes. Slavery was condemned.

The Bible condoned slavery, as well as genocide and baby killing.

Just because it sounds monstrous to you now, doesnt mean it isnt there. It means youre in a forced denial, else... whats the moral standing anymore but another historic reference to the morals of the day

People's concept of morality evolves as human society evolves. Conservatives -especially the religious - are stuck in the morality of the ancients. Progressives are continually evolving morally. That's not to say that progressive morality is always right, but they are more right than wrong.

For example, given the morality of the ancients, not even Jesus spoke against slavery. Yet as humanity progressed it's become almost universally accepted that slavery is immoral. Modern government - formed by progressives (for their time) were WAY ahead of religious institutions in condemning slavery.

Of course many conservatives have a hard time conforming to the morality of the ancients much less modern morality.

Apparently you have not read the Bible. There was a man named Moses, ever hear of him? If not, God raised him up to free the Hebrew nation from slavery.

But he was not done. Although he allowed for slavery in the Hebrew nation, it was used more as a way to survive for the down and out who were not linked to a tribe to help them survive. On top of that, they were to be released from slavery after 7 years of service.

But it does not end there. Moses even implemented a day of rest, even for slaves, something unheard of in the ancient world that knew work and toil 24/7.

So thank Moses for "evolving" away from slavery. No, thank the God that pulled the strings behind the curtains.

As for Jesus, he said that those who sinned were a slave to sin and that he came to set the captives free. What he was saying was equally revolutionary, if not more so. To think that God could set someone free from their internal chains despite maybe being a slave is astonishing and accurate.

I fully believe that Christian slaves back in the day were much happier than inwardly tormented souls like emperor Nero even though they had all the money and "power" anyone could want.

Thank Moses for giving slaves a day of rest?

Religion seriously retards your cognitive faculties. If morals are ABSOLUTE, then why the fuck did we even NEED to evolve away from some of the teachings of the Bible, huh genius? Why didnt the Bible condemn slavery then and there, if it was busy declaring the moral absolutes?

Oh.. I know why.

Morals are absolutes. Slavery was condemned.

The Bible condoned slavery, as well as genocide and baby killing.

Just because it sounds monstrous to you now, doesnt mean it isnt there. It means youre in a forced denial, else... whats the moral standing anymore but another historic reference to the morals of the day

No, you're wrong. They were killing children for their gods.

"You shall not behave thus toward the LORD your God, for every abominable act which the LORD hates they have done for their gods; for they even burn their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods.

I guess you havent read the bible. God of the Christian bible COMMANDED GENOCIDE, and laid out the proper treatment of slaves. Might do ya well to read the fuckin thing...it contradicts itself quite a bit.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Apparently you have not read the Bible. There was a man named Moses, ever hear of him? If not, God raised him up to free the Hebrew nation from slavery.

But he was not done. Although he allowed for slavery in the Hebrew nation, it was used more as a way to survive for the down and out who were not linked to a tribe to help them survive. On top of that, they were to be released from slavery after 7 years of service.

But it does not end there. Moses even implemented a day of rest, even for slaves, something unheard of in the ancient world that knew work and toil 24/7.

So thank Moses for "evolving" away from slavery. No, thank the God that pulled the strings behind the curtains.

As for Jesus, he said that those who sinned were a slave to sin and that he came to set the captives free. What he was saying was equally revolutionary, if not more so. To think that God could set someone free from their internal chains despite maybe being a slave is astonishing and accurate.

I fully believe that Christian slaves back in the day were much happier than inwardly tormented souls like emperor Nero even though they had all the money and "power" anyone could want.

Thank Moses for giving slaves a day of rest?

Religion seriously retards your cognitive faculties. If morals are ABSOLUTE, then why the fuck did we even NEED to evolve away from some of the teachings of the Bible, huh genius? Why didnt the Bible condemn slavery then and there, if it was busy declaring the moral absolutes?

Oh.. I know why.

Morals are absolutes. Slavery was condemned.

The Bible condoned slavery, as well as genocide and baby killing.

Just because it sounds monstrous to you now, doesnt mean it isnt there. It means youre in a forced denial, else... whats the moral standing anymore but another historic reference to the morals of the day

Apparently you have not read the Bible. There was a man named Moses, ever hear of him? If not, God raised him up to free the Hebrew nation from slavery.

But he was not done. Although he allowed for slavery in the Hebrew nation, it was used more as a way to survive for the down and out who were not linked to a tribe to help them survive. On top of that, they were to be released from slavery after 7 years of service.

But it does not end there. Moses even implemented a day of rest, even for slaves, something unheard of in the ancient world that knew work and toil 24/7.

So thank Moses for "evolving" away from slavery. No, thank the God that pulled the strings behind the curtains.

As for Jesus, he said that those who sinned were a slave to sin and that he came to set the captives free. What he was saying was equally revolutionary, if not more so. To think that God could set someone free from their internal chains despite maybe being a slave is astonishing and accurate.

I fully believe that Christian slaves back in the day were much happier than inwardly tormented souls like emperor Nero even though they had all the money and "power" anyone could want.

Thank Moses for giving slaves a day of rest?

Religion seriously retards your cognitive faculties. If morals are ABSOLUTE, then why the fuck did we even NEED to evolve away from some of the teachings of the Bible, huh genius? Why didnt the Bible condemn slavery then and there, if it was busy declaring the moral absolutes?

Oh.. I know why.

Morals are absolutes. Slavery was condemned.

The Bible condoned slavery, as well as genocide and baby killing.

Just because it sounds monstrous to you now, doesnt mean it isnt there. It means youre in a forced denial, else... whats the moral standing anymore but another historic reference to the morals of the day

No, you're wrong. They were killing children for their gods.

"You shall not behave thus toward the LORD your God, for every abominable act which the LORD hates they have done for their gods; for they even burn their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods.

I guess you havent read the bible. God of the Christian bible COMMANDED GENOCIDE, and laid out the proper treatment of slaves. Might do ya well to read the fuckin thing...it contradicts itself quite a bit.

Doesn't contradict itself anywhere. I've read it several times.

 

[G.T.]

People's concept of morality evolves as human society evolves. Conservatives -especially the religious - are stuck in the morality of the ancients. Progressives are continually evolving morally. That's not to say that progressive morality is always right, but they are more right than wrong.

For example, given the morality of the ancients, not even Jesus spoke against slavery. Yet as humanity progressed it's become almost universally accepted that slavery is immoral. Modern government - formed by progressives (for their time) were WAY ahead of religious institutions in condemning slavery.

Of course many conservatives have a hard time conforming to the morality of the ancients much less modern morality.

Peoples concept changes but the immoral act of rape or murder or abortion is the same as it was 4000 years ago.

Not really. Women were subjugated...and murdered for heinous reasons, in heinous ways as well back then.

It was just as immoral then as it is now.

What was moral and immoral is quite different from how it was considered...and stoning women was considered moral and in some places, still is. Its kinda gross.

Its considered moral in the ME to stone women. It was never moral under God.

God of which text ~ or is this a special different God not of the leading world religions....

I can pull the damn quotes if youre that behind...and b4 you even say it, Im quite aware that "its" teachings. .contradict one another quite a bit.

 

[G.T.]

Thank Moses for giving slaves a day of rest?

Religion seriously retards your cognitive faculties. If morals are ABSOLUTE, then why the fuck did we even NEED to evolve away from some of the teachings of the Bible, huh genius? Why didnt the Bible condemn slavery then and there, if it was busy declaring the moral absolutes?

Oh.. I know why.

Morals are absolutes. Slavery was condemned.

The Bible condoned slavery, as well as genocide and baby killing.

Just because it sounds monstrous to you now, doesnt mean it isnt there. It means youre in a forced denial, else... whats the moral standing anymore but another historic reference to the morals of the day

Thank Moses for giving slaves a day of rest?

Religion seriously retards your cognitive faculties. If morals are ABSOLUTE, then why the fuck did we even NEED to evolve away from some of the teachings of the Bible, huh genius? Why didnt the Bible condemn slavery then and there, if it was busy declaring the moral absolutes?

Oh.. I know why.

Morals are absolutes. Slavery was condemned.

The Bible condoned slavery, as well as genocide and baby killing.

Just because it sounds monstrous to you now, doesnt mean it isnt there. It means youre in a forced denial, else... whats the moral standing anymore but another historic reference to the morals of the day

No, you're wrong. They were killing children for their gods.

"You shall not behave thus toward the LORD your God, for every abominable act which the LORD hates they have done for their gods; for they even burn their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods.

I guess you havent read the bible. God of the Christian bible COMMANDED GENOCIDE, and laid out the proper treatment of slaves. Might do ya well to read the fuckin thing...it contradicts itself quite a bit.

Doesn't contradict itself anywhere. I've read it several times.

Okay so .. the conquest of Canaan is all in ones imagination.

I gettit bro, dissonance is a requirement of a Religious fundy. Thats alright.

 

[G.T.]

And if a man sells his daughter to be a female slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. If she does not please her master, who has betrothed her to himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has dealt deceitfully with her. And if he has betrothed her to his son, he shall deal with her according to the custom of daughters. If he takes another wife, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, and her marriage rights. And if he does not do these three for her, then she shall go out free, without paying money.

— Exodus 21

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.’ If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)




wait what?????? want some new testament.....since, yannow...GODS morality seems to have shifted (ahem, absolute?) over time?

SURE!!

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.(Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

 

[bendog]

Moral depravity knows no bounds.

The one issue that is not trending Left is on abortion. Most Americans still oppose it.

That holds some promise.

what?

Public Opinion on Abortion

 

[G.T.]

"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, she must be silent." - Timothy 2:12

1 Samuel 15 "This is what the Lord Almighty says ... 'Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.' "

 

[Seawytch]

Americans Hold Record Liberal Views on Most Moral Issues

It's a good question and a fair point. If Republicans were honest with themselves, they would realize how lucky they are that the people who are currently in control of the Democratic Party - the illiberal leftist authoritarian Regressive Left - have successfully repulsed so many Americans with their neurotic, hateful and hypersensitive behaviors.

Otherwise, yes, the Democrats have a clear advantage on the issues in modern day America.
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This should be of no surprise. Leftists have taken over the media, education, and government, all of which are authority figures that help form and mold morality.

Some have even infiltrated the church. The current Pope is a Left winger as an example. I have not heard him speak one word against abortion, yet it is the official church position that it is genocide. Just think about that for a minute or two. That is just sick on so many levels.

That’s because this Pope is seemingly more concerned with the Bible and what Jesus has said and not what the church has said. Jesus spoke more about helping the poor than he spoke about abortion...(Jesus never said anything about abortion)

Jesus never said anything about movies or basketball or how much water should be added to concrete. You're saying that Jesus would have condoned killing innocent human beings?

It was a common practice at the time Jesus lived, to leave deformed children outside to die from exposure. Not a mention of it...

The bible DOES mention the penalty to someone that hurts a pregnant woman...and the punishment is not the same if only the fetus dies.

And if men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no [further] injury, he shall surely be fined as the woman's husband may demand of him; and he shall pay as the judges decide. But if there is any [further] injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise

 

[Seawytch]

It appears that on almost every social issue of today, Americans are trending towards the morality of the Left.

Who believes this or does not believe it and why?

Also, does a society trend indicate being "right"?

And lastly, does it matter?

I think it's probably true.

Yes, I think that the majority opinion and attitudes does matter in what a society's mores are.

The thing is, you guys have plenty of opporunity to argue your points on gay marriage or abortion, and largely, your arguments have been found wanting.

The majority of Americans think abortion is immoral dingleberry.

Do you want to take that back now?

They don't want it made illegal, however. I'm opposed to abortion, but support a woman's right to choose what to do with her body.

 

[G.T.]

The most hilarious part of there being an old and new moral Law in Christianity (old and new testament), is that it in and of itself contradicts morals as being absolutes since they changed from pre to post NT.