Zone1 Has the 'devil come down' in Minnesota?

[Woodznutz]

America is the bastion of freedom in the world, surely an important target of Satan. Has the devil finally 'come down having great wrath' at this time? Current events threaten to fracture the nation as never before. Divide and conquer is the devil's favorite tactic. Can America withstand this assault, or are we facing the tribulation?

 

[Meister]

Read The Book of Revelation in the New Testament

 

[BreezeWood]

Has the devil finally 'come down having great wrath' at this time? Current events threaten to fracture the nation as never before.

no,

christianity, the desert religions are the wrath threatening to destroy our country, secular constitution and freedoms to rather conform to their false bibles of servitude and denial they use to persecute and victimize the innocent in the name of their madeup god.

 

[ding]

no,

christianity, the desert religions are the wrath threatening to destroy our country, secular constitution and freedoms to rather conform to their false bibles of servitude and denial they use to persecute and victimize the innocent in the name of their madeup god.

I couldn't figure out what you were trying to say so I stuck it in google to translate. Here is what google said.

The question of Christianity's role in American society and its relationship with the U.S. Constitution is a subject of intense, ongoing debate, featuring starkly different perspectives on the nation's foundations and future.
Arguments Regarding Threats to Democracy and Freedom

• Christian Nationalism Concerns: Many observers and researchers identify Christian nationalism—the belief that the U.S. is a Christian nation and that its laws should reflect specific religious values—as a significant threat to democracy. Critics argue this ideology undermines the separation of church and state, threatens religious freedom for minorities and the nonreligious, and can lead to discrimination or political violence.
• Targeting Rights: Observers note that some movements, often linked to the religious right, have targeted LGBTQI+ rights, women’s reproductive rights, and sought to censor school curriculum, which critics view as an attempt to enforce a narrow set of religious beliefs on a pluralistic society.
• Perception of Victimization: Some proponents of Christian nationalist ideologies feel their values are marginalized, leading to a "take back" mentality that views secularism as a threat, according to analysis by sociologists.

Counter-Arguments and Alternative Perspectives

• Influence on Founding Principles: Conversely, many argue that Judeo-Christian values were foundational to the United States and influenced the Constitution, particularly regarding ideas of human dignity, inherent rights, and the moral limitations on government power.
• Constitutional Protections: Defenders of religious liberty point out that the First Amendment protects the "free exercise" of religion and that many faith-based organizations contribute positively to society, arguing that the true danger is the erasure of religious influence from public life.
• Diverse Christian Views: Many Christians in the U.S. explicitly reject Christian nationalism, viewing the blending of faith and political power as dangerous to both democratic principles and to the church itself.

Legal and Historical Context

• A Secular Constitution: While many early colonists were motivated by religious convictions, the U.S. Constitution does not mention God and specifically prohibits religious tests for public office.
• Shifting Landscape: The United States is experiencing a rise in secularism, with the percentage of Americans identifying as Christian dropping from 90% in 1990 to roughly 62% in 2024, though this decline has plateaued recently.

Ultimately, the debate centres on whether the U.S. should be a neutral, secular state that accommodates religious diversity or one that formally acknowledges its Christian heritage in its legal and social structures.

 

[BreezeWood]

Ultimately, the debate centres on whether the U.S. should be a neutral, secular state that accommodates religious diversity or one that formally acknowledges its Christian heritage in its legal and social structures.

there is no debate -

the u s constitution is a neutral, secular state sponsored document regardless atheism, agnosticism, religion et all being all treated the same.

 

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there is no debate -

the u s constitution is a neutral, secular state sponsored document regardless atheism, agnosticism, religion et all being all treated the same.

The more people like you attack Christianity, the more relevant the debate becomes.

 

[BreezeWood]

the u s constitution is a neutral, secular state sponsored document regardless atheism, agnosticism, religion et all being all treated the same.

The more people like you attack Christianity, the more relevant the debate becomes.

the desert religions are no greater or lesser than any of the other ism that they are incapable to coincide between truth than fantasy as their primary means for existence.

 

[otto105]

America is the bastion of freedom in the world, surely an important target of Satan. Has the devil finally 'come down having great wrath' at this time? Current events threaten to fracture the nation as never before. Divide and conquer is the devil's favorite tactic. Can America withstand this assault, or are we facing the tribulation?

No, came from a golf course stocked with classified documents in Florida.

 

[Woodznutz]

the desert religions are no greater or lesser than any of the other ism that they are incapable to coincide between truth than fantasy as their primary means for existence.

All religions are a "two-edged" sword. The practitioner can use it as a scalpel or a murder weapon. Sadly, all you see are murderers.

 

[Augustine_]

America is the bastion of freedom in the world, surely an important target of Satan. Has the devil finally 'come down having great wrath' at this time? Current events threaten to fracture the nation as never before. Divide and conquer is the devil's favorite tactic. Can America withstand this assault, or are we facing the tribulation?

Satan's got an entire flock of people supporting a President who is a living embodiment of the 7 deadly sins

 

[BreezeWood]

All religions are a "two-edged" sword. The practitioner can use it as a scalpel or a murder weapon. Sadly, all you see are murderers.

the desert religions are no greater or lesser than any of the other ism ...

do you ever read posts you reply to ...

sorry, recorded history shows the desert religions at the forefront to persecute and victimize the innocent throughout the centuries - and for apologist - w-nutz - gleefully ignoring their crimes to optimize their own personal comfort.

 

[ding]

the desert religions are no greater or lesser than any of the other ism that they are incapable to coincide between truth than fantasy as their primary means for existence.

For any action there will be a opposite reaction. The more people like you attack Christianity, the more there will be a reaction. Keep poking the bear and find out.

 

[BreezeWood]

For any action there will be a opposite reaction. The more people like you attack Christianity, the more there will be a reaction. Keep poking the bear and find out.

have you lost your mirror - bears and donkeys, asses are one in the same.

 

[ding]

have you lost your mirror - bears and donkeys, asses are one in the same.

If you can't understand that attacks trigger retaliations, I can't help you. One can argue that what we are seeing today is a response to perceived attacks from secular humanists who tried to use big government to implement their morally relativistic policies. In that regard, you have no one to blame for Trump than people like you.

 

[buttercup]

Divide and conquer is the devil's favorite tactic.

THANK YOU. That's what I've been saying, repeatedly. It usually goes in one ear and out the other.

 

[Woodznutz]

do you ever read posts you reply to ...

sorry, recorded history shows the desert religions at the forefront to persecute and victimize the innocent throughout the centuries - and for apologist - w-nutz - gleefully ignoring their crimes to optimize their own personal comfort.

The true church was also persecuted by the false church. You must get tired wielding that broad brush.

 

[buttercup]

I wasn't sure where to post this... so I guess I'll put it here. This talk is definitely worth listening to. (I don't necessarily agree with every single thing they said, but overall I agree with their take... and they bring up a number of really good points.)

 

[Carl in Michigan]

THANK YOU. That's what I've been saying, repeatedly. It usually goes in one ear and out the other.

Are you united with those who undermine ICE and the enforcement of our laws?

There should be no division when it comes to enforcing our laws

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I wasn't sure where to post this... so I guess I'll put it here. This talk is definitely worth listening to. (I don't necessarily agree with every single thing they said, but overall I agree with their take... and they bring up a number of really good points.)

Good God, this woman is an idiot
The problem is Democrat/commies following and harassing and interfering with federal agents doing their damn job.

 

[buttercup]

Are you united with those who undermine ICE and the enforcement of our laws?

There should be no division when it comes to enforcing our laws

Wow, you completely misunderstood, and as always you assume the absolute worst. You really seem incapable of thinking outside of that ignorant, duped, hyperpartisan box that the government and media want you to stay stuck in.

But since you came at me with so much anger and accusation, I'm not even interested in talking to you about this. I was talking to Woodnutz, not you.