Has Obama been as good/bad as you thought he'd be?

I thought he was at least a good orator. It seems he can't even utter a coherent sentance without a teleprompter.

I've started to think that this is some kind of side effect of being President. Gov. Bush, as a candidate for President, appeared to be a good speaker. And then when he was in office, barely sounded like he knew English.

Agreed. Bush said "no nation-building" on his campaign trail then he brought in all the israel-first, neocons :eusa_eh: Both he and they turned out to be hell bent on invading Iraq from Day 1.
 
He's done a remarkable job considering.

I never thought Republicans would turn against their own country to bring down the "black" guy in the "WHITE" House. But it really shouldn't surprise me. After all, they lied America into a foreign war to "make money". They saw Iraq as a "business venture" and made money hand over fist.

Since then, they held millions of unemployed Americans whose jobs they shipped overseas, hostage, threatening to keep them from getting unemployment benefits to extend tax cuts to millionaires and billionaires. It worked. Obama couldn't let those millions of Americans suffer. Republican could. Smiling and gleeful the entire time.

So you're bitter becuase the GOP is winning politically?

Your first paragraph was so ridiculous, that it barely warrants a response. But I'm bored so.....

For one, we only hate his white half. Thats the half making all the dumb mistakes.

Second, yes, we got filthy rich off Iraq, and it's trickling down you the poor people we hate so much.

Third, we actually didn't think Obama would cave on tax cuts. We truly just wanted to see poor people starve and die in the streets. But he did cave and ruined our genius plot.

It may not be the "plan", but it's how the "plan" worked out. Hope it was worth it.
 
I thought he would be inexperienced and a little naive. Racking up the kind of debt he has racked up was outside my limited imagination.

This jack ass is the worst thing that has evr happened to this country and it's getting worse on a daily basis. The only hope for the country is Paul Ryan.

How utterly it escapes you that the debt would be only marginally different regardless of who was elected.

I guess that depends on how you define marginally.
 
The Good: Heathcare passed; Economy saved and recovering; Tough on Terrorism; Well liked by other nations; Competent when dealing with disasters; Intelligent; Wonderful Speaker; Friendly to Labor.

The Bad: To soft on the GOP; Failed to pull out of Afghanistan and Iraq; Failed to close GITMO.

The Ugly: Extended Bush tax cuts; Trying his best to come off as a Conservative and alienates to the base.

Overall: He's done a remarkable job.

Must disagree with you on Health care, he made it worse, and the economy, he sure as hell has not made it any better. Terrorism? How has he been tough on terrorism?

Immie

What terrorist attacks have occurred under Obama's watch in the US again? The better question is how has he been weak on terrorism?
 
The Good: Heathcare passed; Economy saved and recovering; Tough on Terrorism; Well liked by other nations; Competent when dealing with disasters; Intelligent; Wonderful Speaker; Friendly to Labor.

The Bad: To soft on the GOP; Failed to pull out of Afghanistan and Iraq; Failed to close GITMO.

The Ugly: Extended Bush tax cuts; Trying his best to come off as a Conservative and alienates to the base.

Overall: He's done a remarkable job.

Must disagree with you on Health care, he made it worse, and the economy, he sure as hell has not made it any better. Terrorism? How has he been tough on terrorism?

Immie

What terrorist attacks have occurred under Obama's watch in the US again? The better question is how has he been weak on terrorism?

Let me see, Times Square and Ft. Hood pop out off the top of my head. That is one more than Bush had, just saying.
 
Must disagree with you on Health care, he made it worse, and the economy, he sure as hell has not made it any better. Terrorism? How has he been tough on terrorism?

Immie

What terrorist attacks have occurred under Obama's watch in the US again? The better question is how has he been weak on terrorism?

Let me see, Times Square and Ft. Hood pop out off the top of my head. That is one more than Bush had, just saying.

Nothing happened in Times Square. Ft Hood was just another nut with a gun. No different than Columbine, VA Tech or Tucson.

If we are really counting....Bush allowed four terrorist attacks on 9/11 and they were the largest in US history

More importantly, Obama has stepped up drone attacks against terrorist strongholds in Pakistan and has been hitting the Taliban hard in Afghanistan. Hardly soft on terrorism
 
Interesting question. Let's see how the facts add up.

If any other of our presidents had doubled the national debt, which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had then proposed to double the debt again within 10 years, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had criticized a state law that he admitted he never even read, would you think that he is just an ignorant hot head?

If any other of our presidents joined the country of Mexico and sued a state in the United States to force that state to continue to allow illegal immigration, would you question his patriotism and wonder who's side he was on?

If any other of our presidents had pronounced the Marine Corps like Marine Corpse, would you think him an idiot?

If any other of our presidents had put 87,000 workers out of work by arbitrarily placing a moratorium on offshore oil drilling on companies that have one of the best safety records of any industry because one foreign company had an accident, would you have agreed?

If any other of our presidents had used a forged document as the basis of the moratorium that would render 87000 American workers unemployed would you support him?

If any other of our presidents had been the first President to need a Teleprompter installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have laughed and said this is more proof of how inept he is on his own and is really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?

If any other of our presidents had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take his First Lady to a play in NYC, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had reduced your retirement plan holdings of GM stock by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and historically significant gift, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought it a proud moment for America ?

If any other of our presidents had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had visited Austria and made reference to the nonexistent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a minor slip?

If any other of our presidents had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with people who cannot seem to keep current in their income taxes, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had stated that there were 57 states in the United States , wouldn't you have had second thoughts about his capabilities?

If any other of our presidents would have flown all the way to Denmark to make a five minute speech about how the Olympics would benefit him walking out his front door in his home town, would you not have thought he was a self important, conceited, egotistical jerk.

If any other of our presidents had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to "Cinco de Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the 5th of May (Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, wouldn't you have winced in embarrassment?

If any other of our presidents had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a single tree on Earth Day, would you have concluded he's a hypocrite?

If any other of our presidents' administrations had okayed Air Force One flying low over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they actually get what happened on 9-11?

If any other of our presidents had failed to send relief aid to flood victims throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than in New Orleans , would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue with claims of racism and incompetence?

If any other of our presidents had created the position of 32 Czars who report directly to him, bypassing the House and Senate on much of what is happening in America , would you have ever approved.

If any other of our presidents had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you have approved?

So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive?

Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all this in 24 months -- so you have that much time to come up with an answer.

Every statement and action in this email is factual and directly attributable to Barrack Hussein Obama. Every bumble is a matter of record and completely verifiable.

I received this in an e-mail. It seemed appropriate to post here. Given the evidence I would say that while Obama, was a competent ACORN organizer he has proven himself to be a piss poor President.

i'm saving this list for '12
 
Interesting question. Let's see how the facts add up.

If any other of our presidents had doubled the national debt, which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had then proposed to double the debt again within 10 years, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had criticized a state law that he admitted he never even read, would you think that he is just an ignorant hot head?

If any other of our presidents joined the country of Mexico and sued a state in the United States to force that state to continue to allow illegal immigration, would you question his patriotism and wonder who's side he was on?

If any other of our presidents had pronounced the Marine Corps like Marine Corpse, would you think him an idiot?

If any other of our presidents had put 87,000 workers out of work by arbitrarily placing a moratorium on offshore oil drilling on companies that have one of the best safety records of any industry because one foreign company had an accident, would you have agreed?

If any other of our presidents had used a forged document as the basis of the moratorium that would render 87000 American workers unemployed would you support him?

If any other of our presidents had been the first President to need a Teleprompter installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have laughed and said this is more proof of how inept he is on his own and is really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?

If any other of our presidents had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take his First Lady to a play in NYC, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had reduced your retirement plan holdings of GM stock by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and historically significant gift, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought it a proud moment for America ?

If any other of our presidents had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had visited Austria and made reference to the nonexistent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a minor slip?

If any other of our presidents had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with people who cannot seem to keep current in their income taxes, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had stated that there were 57 states in the United States , wouldn't you have had second thoughts about his capabilities?

If any other of our presidents would have flown all the way to Denmark to make a five minute speech about how the Olympics would benefit him walking out his front door in his home town, would you not have thought he was a self important, conceited, egotistical jerk.

If any other of our presidents had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to "Cinco de Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the 5th of May (Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, wouldn't you have winced in embarrassment?

If any other of our presidents had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a single tree on Earth Day, would you have concluded he's a hypocrite?

If any other of our presidents' administrations had okayed Air Force One flying low over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they actually get what happened on 9-11?

If any other of our presidents had failed to send relief aid to flood victims throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than in New Orleans , would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue with claims of racism and incompetence?

If any other of our presidents had created the position of 32 Czars who report directly to him, bypassing the House and Senate on much of what is happening in America , would you have ever approved.

If any other of our presidents had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you have approved?

So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive?

Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all this in 24 months -- so you have that much time to come up with an answer.

Every statement and action in this email is factual and directly attributable to Barrack Hussein Obama. Every bumble is a matter of record and completely verifiable.

I received this in an e-mail. It seemed appropriate to post here. Given the evidence I would say that while Obama, was a competent ACORN organizer he has proven himself to be a piss poor President.

i'm saving this list for '12

:lol: what a pack of lies and misrepresentations. Not even worth responding to
 
What terrorist attacks have occurred under Obama's watch in the US again? The better question is how has he been weak on terrorism?

Let me see, Times Square and Ft. Hood pop out off the top of my head. That is one more than Bush had, just saying.

Nothing happened in Times Square. Ft Hood was just another nut with a gun. No different than Columbine, VA Tech or Tucson.

If we are really counting....Bush allowed four terrorist attacks on 9/11 and they were the largest in US history

More importantly, Obama has stepped up drone attacks against terrorist strongholds in Pakistan and has been hitting the Taliban hard in Afghanistan. Hardly soft on terrorism

You're wrong about the Ft. Hood soldier. He is a muslim terrorist. He had a cause. He is not just another nut.
 
Let me see, Times Square and Ft. Hood pop out off the top of my head. That is one more than Bush had, just saying.

Nothing happened in Times Square. Ft Hood was just another nut with a gun. No different than Columbine, VA Tech or Tucson.

If we are really counting....Bush allowed four terrorist attacks on 9/11 and they were the largest in US history

More importantly, Obama has stepped up drone attacks against terrorist strongholds in Pakistan and has been hitting the Taliban hard in Afghanistan. Hardly soft on terrorism

You're wrong about the Ft. Hood soldier. He is a muslim terrorist. He had a cause. He is not just another nut.

He was just another nut who was Muslim. Loner, felt persecuted, loser.....Lee Harvey Oswald, McVeigh, Jared Loughram
 
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Nothing happened in Times Square. Ft Hood was just another nut with a gun. No different than Columbine, VA Tech or Tucson.

If we are really counting....Bush allowed four terrorist attacks on 9/11 and they were the largest in US history

More importantly, Obama has stepped up drone attacks against terrorist strongholds in Pakistan and has been hitting the Taliban hard in Afghanistan. Hardly soft on terrorism

You're wrong about the Ft. Hood soldier. He is a muslim terrorist. He had a cause. He is not just another nut.

He was just another nut who was Muslim.

oh really? But any other attack on someone you all don't have a PROBLEM labeling them.. RIGHT WING EXTREAMIST.
 
Nothing happened in Times Square. Ft Hood was just another nut with a gun. No different than Columbine, VA Tech or Tucson.

If we are really counting....Bush allowed four terrorist attacks on 9/11 and they were the largest in US history

More importantly, Obama has stepped up drone attacks against terrorist strongholds in Pakistan and has been hitting the Taliban hard in Afghanistan. Hardly soft on terrorism

You're wrong about the Ft. Hood soldier. He is a muslim terrorist. He had a cause. He is not just another nut.

He was just another nut who was Muslim. Loner, felt persecuted, loser.....Lee Harvey Oswald, McVeigh, Jared Loughram

He was in contact with muslim terrorists. There is too much information out about him to deny he is a muslim terrorist. Peddle that to someone else.
 
You're wrong about the Ft. Hood soldier. He is a muslim terrorist. He had a cause. He is not just another nut.

He was just another nut who was Muslim. Loner, felt persecuted, loser.....Lee Harvey Oswald, McVeigh, Jared Loughram

He was in contact with muslim terrorists. There is too much information out about him to deny he is a muslim terrorist. Peddle that to someone else.

There was evidence that he tried to contact them not that they contacted him. Oswald tried to contact the Russians and the Cubans. Doesn't mean they were involved in JFKs assassination
Nut job loners
 
He is just as bad a president as I knew he would be, but he and his regime of tyrants have actually did a better job of fucking up race relations than I expected.

:clap2:



History will show what a terrible POTUS he actually was





That is if the idiots that write the text books dont lie to us like they usually do :eusa_whistle:
 
I thought he'd be one of the worst Presidents ever as both someone steeped in American Values and as an Executive and he has lived up to my expectations
 
He is just as bad a president as I knew he would be, but he and his regime of tyrants have actually did a better job of fucking up race relations than I expected.

:clap2:



History will show what a terrible POTUS he actually was





That is if the idiots that write the text books dont lie to us like they usually do :eusa_whistle:

Hmm. Nah.

"History" is not the same as the dittohead ne'er-do-well losers you listen to on the radio. History will place him in the middle of the pack, and he'll be remembered as a moderate Democrat, kinda wishy-washy and limp-wristed.
 
Obama is a fascist, racist,socialist evil piece of shit and I hate him!!!He hates America and America should hate him back.

Obama's not a fascist, he's a socialist. He's not a racist, he's a race baiter. He is socialist, not sure why you said he was a fascist. And he's not evil, but he is arrogant and believes he can make decisions over our lives better then we can even though so far he hasn't solved a single problem. He also doesn't hate America, he just believes it needs to be remade in his political ideology, which includes weakening America because his ideology is based on that fairness = sameness and unequal power is counter to that.

As for your hating him, it's sad you hate anyone. And all America won't hate him back because I'm an American who's never going to hate him back. But I do hate what he's doing and will oppose him in any way I can.

See? These are the two sides of the Republican Party.

He is either a "racist" or a "race baiter".

He's either a fascist or a socialist.

He's either evil or he believes he can control our lives.

He hates America and wants it destroyed or he wants American "made over" effectively "destroying it".

You either hate "him" or you hate "every thing he stands for".

And Republicans call me all those names. Honestly, I really can't see any difference between the two Republican positions. The words are "slightly re-arranged", but the meaning is "exactly" the same.
 
Obama is a fascist, racist,socialist evil piece of shit and I hate him!!!He hates America and America should hate him back.

Obama's not a fascist, he's a socialist. He's not a racist, he's a race baiter. He is socialist, not sure why you said he was a fascist. And he's not evil, but he is arrogant and believes he can make decisions over our lives better then we can even though so far he hasn't solved a single problem. He also doesn't hate America, he just believes it needs to be remade in his political ideology, which includes weakening America because his ideology is based on that fairness = sameness and unequal power is counter to that.

As for your hating him, it's sad you hate anyone. And all America won't hate him back because I'm an American who's never going to hate him back. But I do hate what he's doing and will oppose him in any way I can.

See? These are the two sides of the Republican Party.

He is either a "racist" or a "race baiter".

He's either a fascist or a socialist.

He's either evil or he believes he can control our lives.

He hates America and wants it destroyed or he wants American "made over" effectively "destroying it".

You either hate "him" or you hate "every thing he stands for".

And Republicans call me all those names. Honestly, I really can't see any difference between the two Republican positions. The words are "slightly re-arranged", but the meaning is "exactly" the same.

The left got it's collective ass kicked in November. Why?
 

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