Harris accepts CNN debate invitation for October 23

[Slade3200]

It did all that.

Just for the first one, Obama's DHS head Jeh Johnson said 1,000 illegals a day was crisis level. This abortion of a bill codified 5,000 a day. That's 1,900,000 / year. And it doesn't even count unaccompanied children, parolees, those who claim a fear of persecution, those that have already been in the U.S. for 14 days, or those already traveled beyond 100 miles from the southwest border.

It didn’t codify anything except for putting a trigger to mandate the closing of the border where there was no trigger before. The president can still decide to close the border if they see 500 crossings if they want.

So that provision is an improvement from the current situation.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It didn’t codify anything except for putting a trigger to mandate the closing of the border where there was no trigger before. The president can still decide to close the border if they see 500 crossings if they want.

So that provision is an improvement from the current situation.

It didn’t codify anything except for putting a trigger to mandate the closing of the border where there was no trigger before.

It didn't mandate closing the border.

The president can still decide to close the border if they see 500 crossings if they want.

He can't decide to close the border today without that bill?

 

[Slade3200]

It didn't mandate closing the border.

Have you read it?

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The “trigger” authority—called the “Border Emergency Authority”—would enable the administration to summarily deport migrants who enter between ports of entry without permitting them to apply for asylum.

The new emergency authority could be activated if border “encounters” reach a daily average of 4,000 over a period of seven days and would become mandatory once border encounters reach over 5,000 over a period of seven days or 8,500 over a single calendar day.

An Analysis of the Senate Border Bill

If passed in its current form, the 2024 Emergency National Security Supplemental Appropriations Act would be the most sweeping immigration bill of the twenty-first century

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/815

 

[Slade3200]

He can't decide to close the border today without that bill?

Yes of course he can. I just made that point. The bill mandates closures at certain thresholds if the prez doesn’t take action

 

[MagicMike]

The guy they defamed.
You haven't heard about the lawsuit?

Fake news

 

[Delldude]

The guy they defamed.
You haven't heard about the lawsuit?

Nothing gets by Mikey.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Have you read it?

———-
The “trigger” authority—called the “Border Emergency Authority”—would enable the administration to summarily deport migrants who enter between ports of entry without permitting them to apply for asylum.

The new emergency authority could be activated if border “encounters” reach a daily average of 4,000 over a period of seven days and would become mandatory once border encounters reach over 5,000 over a period of seven days or 8,500 over a single calendar day.

An Analysis of the Senate Border Bill

If passed in its current form, the 2024 Emergency National Security Supplemental Appropriations Act would be the most sweeping immigration bill of the twenty-first century

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/815

The “trigger” authority—called the “Border Emergency Authority”—would enable

Enable? That's not a mandate.

The new emergency authority could be activated if border “encounters” reach a daily average of 4,000 over a period of seven days

Could?

and would become mandatory once border encounters reach over 5,000 over a period of seven days or 8,500 over a single calendar day.

The emergency authority activation becomes mandatory? And?
That doesn't force Biden to seal the border.

Thanks for the link. Did you see this part?

However, there are several other rules governing the use of the emergency authority, rendering it much less straightforward than the simple mathematics of crossings (for example, the so-called “discretionary” authority at the 4,000/day level would in fact be mandatory for the first 90 days at that level after passage). In addition, the bill defines “encounters” to exclude apprehensions of unaccompanied migrant children.

The bill gives the federal government significant discretion over exactly when to implement this new emergency summary-deportation process and does not require it to be publicly announced. The upshot is this: on any given day, a would-be asylum seeker would have no idea whether they would be allowed to seek asylum in the U.S. or not. The government would be allowed to opt people out of summary removal for a variety of reasons, including operational constraints such as overcrowding. Non-Mexican unaccompanied children would also be exempted. Those set for summary removal could receive a screening for non-asylum humanitarian protection by affirmatively “manifesting” fear of persecution or torture to a border official—volunteering without prompting that they fear return or showing an obvious sign of fear.

Wow! That sounds super tough. DURR.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes of course he can. I just made that point. The bill mandates closures at certain thresholds if the prez doesn’t take action

He could seal the border, but he hasn't?

The bill mandates closures at certain thresholds if the prez doesn’t take action

Biden would sign a bill that forces him to do something he didn't want to do?
If he doesn't want to do it, why would he sign something that forces him?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Fake news

A billion-dollar defamation lawsuit is fake news? Did CNN tell you that?

 

[WEATHER53]

Contrived set up
CNN another lib rag extends invite to Harris but not Trump. Idea is she says yes to a date and time he won’t agree to and then they blast 24/7 that he “backed out of debate”
Takes two to debate and inviting one is crap

 

[MagicMike]

A billion-dollar defamation lawsuit is fake news? Did CNN tell you that?

 

[ThisIsMe]

It’s part of his entire delusional persona… never apologize, never admit defeat, never back down, punch back twice as hard… plus there’s the dance to Macho Man by the Village People every rally… which is about the gayest macho man thing a guy can do… don’t tell Trump that though ;-)

What’s wrong with the macho man dance? It’s a classic!

I guess I have a different idea of what “macho” means lol

 

[Delldude]

Ever try Google, clownman?

Nothing gets by Mikey....

 

[Leo123]

What’s wrong with the macho man dance? It’s a classic!

I guess I have a different idea of what “macho” means lol

'Macho' scares Democrat soi boys.

 

[Delldude]

Perhaps if we fixed those systems it would lighten the load of illegal crossings and make the border easier to enforce against criminals and traffickers.

Why hasn't anyone enforced the existing laws?

That’s not accurate. It would put a limit that triggers a shutdown of the border. Right now there is no limit that triggers a shut down.

The president has all the authority needed to shut the border down on any given day.

It doesn't shut the border down, only 'limits' 1400 a day until the 'ban' is lifted.

Except for this bill is bipartisan. Authored by a very conservative member. So that blows up your tried and true tactic of blindly discrediting.

LOL...........introduced by D Sen Murphy.....every mention of this bill by MSM was 'bipartisan border bill'........even Schumer admitted it wouldn't pass. You been played.

It is the fault of the Dems and GOP who voted against it. And Trump who rallied the GOP to shut it down

Not passing a bad bill is the fault of of anybody? We live in a representative republic where everyone has a say in any legislation. Citizen Trump has every right to voice opposition as does anyone. How many bills that were passed didn't have any yea or nea opposition from citizen entities?

Also, as I showed, the bill reopened and funded wall/fence construction, and supported many border enforcement measures. You keep lying saying it didn't address this stuff. You obviously didn't read the bill. Here try again...

I didn't say anything of the sort to what you just claimed.

Operation Stonegarden, which provides grants to law enforcement agencies for certain border security operations;

How true, it was funded back in 2015 and levels increased in 2019 by the Trump administration.

prohibits DHS from processing the entry of non-U.S. nationals (aliens under federal law) arriving between ports of entry;

My God man, US law already prohibits that, why do we need another law to address that?

 

[Slade3200]

The “trigger” authority—called the “Border Emergency Authority”—would enable

Enable? That's not a mandate.

The new emergency authority could be activated if border “encounters” reach a daily average of 4,000 over a period of seven days

Could?

and would become mandatory once border encounters reach over 5,000 over a period of seven days or 8,500 over a single calendar day.

The emergency authority activation becomes mandatory? And?
That doesn't force Biden to seal the border.

Thanks for the link. Did you see this part?

However, there are several other rules governing the use of the emergency authority, rendering it much less straightforward than the simple mathematics of crossings (for example, the so-called “discretionary” authority at the 4,000/day level would in fact be mandatory for the first 90 days at that level after passage). In addition, the bill defines “encounters” to exclude apprehensions of unaccompanied migrant children.

The bill gives the federal government significant discretion over exactly when to implement this new emergency summary-deportation process and does not require it to be publicly announced. The upshot is this: on any given day, a would-be asylum seeker would have no idea whether they would be allowed to seek asylum in the U.S. or not. The government would be allowed to opt people out of summary removal for a variety of reasons, including operational constraints such as overcrowding. Non-Mexican unaccompanied children would also be exempted. Those set for summary removal could receive a screening for non-asylum humanitarian protection by affirmatively “manifesting” fear of persecution or torture to a border official—volunteering without prompting that they fear return or showing an obvious sign of fear.

Wow! That sounds super tough. DURR.

Super tough?! Uhh maybe. But yes at a point it triggers a mandatory emergency summary deportation process. You do understand what the word mandatory means right? That’s a mandate

 

[Slade3200]

He could seal the border, but he hasn't?

The bill mandates closures at certain thresholds if the prez doesn’t take action

Biden would sign a bill that forces him to do something he didn't want to do?
If he doesn't want to do it, why would he sign something that forces him?

Ask him. Perhaps a section written by the conservatives that Biden or Harris would compromise on to get something done

 

[Slade3200]

Why hasn't anyone enforced the existing laws?

You’d have to ask Anyone about that.

 

[Slade3200]

The president has all the authority needed to shut the border down on any given day.

It doesn't shut the border down, only 'limits' 1400 a day until the 'ban' is lifted.

Yes the prez has the authority. This bill has a provision that triggers a mandate if a prez isn’t taking action. Again… better than the current situation

 

[Slade3200]

LOL...........introduced by D Sen Murphy.....every mention of this bill by MSM was 'bipartisan border bill'........even Schumer admitted it wouldn't pass. You been played.

And Langford (R)