Weatherman2020
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It’s more like 90% of Democrats hate Jews.
Hamas Placed Rocket Launchers On Top Of Hospitals Yet Ilhan Omar Does Her Best To Dispel 'Myth' Palestinians Use 'Human Shields'
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SweetTea
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If Hamas put down their weapons tommorow, there would be peace. If Israel put down their weapons tomorrow it would cease to exist. That is all anyone really needs to know about what is going on here. The rest is left-wing anti-Israel/US propaganda pushed by anti-US Democrats.
easyt65
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Terrorists...domestic terrorists....same-same.
Democrat leaders all over the country in Democrat-run cities responded to domestic. Terrorism through appeasement, a lack of decisive action to support law & order, & even called for more violence, siding with the terrorists over law-abiding citizens.
The results included a loss of control of their cities, lawlessness, looting, burning, destruction - BILLIONS of dollars worth, assaults, murders, etc...
Putting down weapons / refusal to defend oneself or citizens just created more victims....
Israel chooses its God-given right to defend itself.
Democrat leaders all over the country in Democrat-run cities responded to domestic. Terrorism through appeasement, a lack of decisive action to support law & order, & even called for more violence, siding with the terrorists over law-abiding citizens.
The results included a loss of control of their cities, lawlessness, looting, burning, destruction - BILLIONS of dollars worth, assaults, murders, etc...
Putting down weapons / refusal to defend oneself or citizens just created more victims....
Israel chooses its God-given right to defend itself.
Weatherman2020
Diamond Member
Yes, targeting Jews seems to be this years sport for the Left.Rigby must think neither the amount of damage done not the fact thatterrorist Hamas fired over 4000 rockets into Israel matters...as long as they were tiny rockets with tiny payloads.
Weatherman2020
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So tell me which hobby store rocket fuel, explosives, and rocket bodies are purchased at in the Gaza Strip.A. They are not home made. Gaza has no rocket store, warhead store nor Amazon delivery. They are smuggled in from Iran. You lied.The rockets raining down on Israel never happened?Last I checked that’s a direct violation of international law.
INTERNATIONAL EVENTS
As Hamas terrorists literally hide behind civilians to attack Israel,
Ilhan Omar does her part to dispel ‘the myth of ‘human shield’ in Palestine’
As Hamas terrorists literally hide behind civilians to attack Israel, Ilhan Omar does her part to dispel ‘the myth of ‘human shield’ in Palestine’
Terrorists attempt to justify using civilians as Human Shields by claiming they are engaged in 'Urban Warfare', requiring the hiding and fighting from within a civilian population, which they claim is completely different from using innocent civilians as 'Human Shields'.
- 'Urban Warfare' is combat conducted in, for example, House-to-House combat, not intentionally placing rocket launchers you are using to attack the next city / territory on top of hospitals or in schools.
'Hamas is not using innocent people as 'Human Shields' - the terrorists can't help that they live within civilian populations - 'There is just so much space in Gaza to go around'.
WTF?! REALLY?!
....and of course there is more BS attempts to justify Hamas using innocent civilians - children - as human shields from terrorist-supporting/sympathizing anti-Semites like Omar are willing to spread:
"And by Ilhan Omar’s faulty logic, Israel is a legitimate target of Hamas terrorists:
An Important thread on the myth of “human shield” in Palestinehttps://t.co/SUPAJHiCJM
— Ilhan Omar (@IlhanMN) May 12, 2021"
HAMAS USES INNOCENT CIVILIANS AS HUMAN SHIELDS....PERIOD. THAT HAS BEEN AND CONTINUES TO BE PROVEN.
"The headlines in most places were entirely predictable: “UN Says Israel Killed 44 Palestinians in Schools During Gaza War.” That was indeed one finding of a UN report published Monday — but only part of the story.
The report also confirmed something Israel’s been saying all along: Hamas stored mortars and other weapons in at least three UN schools during last summer’s war and fired rockets at Israel from two of them."
UN report outlines how Hamas used kids as human shields
The headlines in most places were entirely predictable: “UN Says Israel Killed 44 Palestinians in Schools During Gaza War.” That was indeed one finding of a UN report published Monday — but only pa…nypost.com
Hamas admits it used civilians as human shields, had terrorists mixed in with crowd
"Two days after the siege on Israel’s border, Hamas acknowledged that 50 of the 60 people killed during the protests were members of the terrorist organization. What Hamas likely won’t admit is that the other Palestinians who died during this altercation were used as human shields to protect the terrorists."
The inhumanity of Hamas’ human shields
Recently, I had the opportunity to lead a congressional delegation to Jerusalem for the opening of the U.S. embassy. During our visit, The Jerusalem Post front page was “Promises Made, Promises Kept,” with a picture of President Trump. Sadly, while the United States was keeping its promise to...www.washingtontimes.com
H.R. 3542
H.R. 3542 states that it is U.S. policy to: (1) condemn the use of human shields by Hamas as an act of terrorism and a violation of human rights and international humanitarian law, and (2) act against those engaging in or supporting the use of human shields. The President is urged to direct the U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations (U.N.) to use U.S. influence at the U.N. Security Council to secure support for a resolution imposing multilateral sanctions against Hamas's use of human shields.
Summary of H.R. 3542 (115th): Hamas Human Shields Prevention Act - GovTrack.us
Summary of H.R. 3542 (115th): Hamas Human Shields Prevention Actwww.govtrack.us
Hamas' use of civilians as human shields
Hamas and the other terrorist organizations in the Gaza Strip have adopted various tactics of using civilians as human shields. One of them is encouraging civilians to gather on roofs to prevent terrorists and their houses from being attacked by the Israeli Air Force.
1. Hamas spokesman, Sami Abu Zuhri was interviewed on 8 July, and called on the Palestinian people to use the human shield tactic to defend their homes: "We in the Hamas movement call on our people to adopt this procedure" (Source: Memri and Channel 10)
So where’s the Lefts precious UN?
The UN knows it NEVER HAPPENED.
Everything Israel says is essentially a lie.
Like I said, you Leftards are a special kind of evil.
Wrong.
We were talking about the claim that rockets were fired from the roofs of hospitals.
That obviously makes no sense and is a lie.
How would anyone even get all these rockets up on to a hospital roof anyway?
Its not like the elevators go all the way to the roof.
But Palestinian rockets are small and home made, without any guidance. They rarely harm anyone.
I just wish there were more lethal, so that Israel could be stopped from murdering and stealing.
B. A 6 foot rocket with an explosive warhead is very lethal. That’s why our military has been using them for 80 years. Lie #2 by you.
C. At least 6 dead and dozens injured from the Hamas terrorists rocket attacks. Numerous Palestinians have been killed and wounded by their own rockets. Lie #3 by you.
D. Hamas terrorists use human shields. Lie #4 by you The Leftist Atlantic:
Hamas Quietly Admits It Fired Rockets from Civilian Areas
The Gaza terrorist group offers that "mistakes were made" in its summer conflict with Israel.www.theatlantic.com
E. It is a direct violation of international law to intentionally target civilians. All Hamas and their supporters should be executed for their war crimes.
Liar.
A. Palestinians have been making rockets for 70 years now. A rocket is just a tube filled with propellant with a funnel shaped nozzle.
They are easy to make from home. I have built hundreds of model rockets at home, and some have gone for miles. They can't smuggle from Iran or anywhere, because Israel cut off all commerce and inspects all packages.
B. The size of the rocket is irrelevant. They point is all the propellant is almost immediately burned up, and payload weight greatly reduces range. The payload then is limited to a few ounces. And that can never be very lethal. Our military has NEVER tried to use little rockets with such a range limitation. When we want a long range lethal rocket, we make it much larger. When we use little rockets, like air to ground, they don't need much propellant because they are short range, get velocity from the launching aircraft, and gain speed from gravity. We do NOT use rockets at all similar to these Palestinians rockets, except on the 4th of July.
C. Obviously Palestinians are going to be killed from home made rockets, because they are going to have problems mixing the propellant with the wrong pressure for the container. It is very unlikely any of the rockets ever killed anyone, and it is more likely the tens of thousands of rockets fired as interceptors from Iron Dome is what actually killed some Israelis.
D. Anyone claiming Hamas is using human shields is lying. Gaza has the single highest population density in the world. There is no where in Gaza that does not have a civilian population. But the claims rockets were launched from hospital roof tops are obvious lies. How would anyone even get rockets to rooftops? They would have to carry then up ladders. It is not like there are freight elevators to the roof tops. They should have claimed rockets were fired from parking lots. At least that could have been possible. Rooftops is just an obvious lie.
E. Hamas is not deliberately targeting civilians but simply does not have the range or guidance to do any better. So it is perfectly legal. Just like the US incinerating the civilians at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
But there likely are no innocent civilians in Israel. They all do their stint in the IDF and remain on reserve. And since no one in Israel has ever paid for any home, they all know they are in possession of stolen property. They are all totally guilty.
How many "fireworks" would you tolerate being fired into New Mexico's towns from across the border until you demand the government retaliate and shut them down, regardless of the provocation?
Targeting them, then screaming bloody murder when they fire back.Yes, targeting Jews seems to be this years sport for the Left.Rigby must think neither the amount of damage done not the fact thatterrorist Hamas fired over 4000 rockets into Israel matters...as long as they were tiny rockets with tiny payloads.
Papageorgio
The Ultimate Winner
An oped piece by the founder of an extreme left wing site Vox, what a slanted silly twisting of tax data by a lefty. Amazing that a functional can operate.
And that's where the rubber meets the road. Consider:
The American government attacks several compounds across the Mexican border set up to facilitate drug and immigrant trafficking. Several civilians are killed. In response, hundreds of rockets are fired into American towns and cities along the border. How long before Americans living in those cities demand protection from the American government and feel justified in military incursions into Mexico, and what would the American military response be? IOW, there is no way the Americans that are currently demanding Israel tolerate these attacks would EVER tolerate them in their own Americans towns. They would rightly consider such attacks acts of war, no matter what the provocation.
There is no point in convincing anti-semites. They will offer any and ever excuse imaginable, then simply deny all evidence that proves them to be wrong. It can be entertaining, though, to watch them squirm and dance as they do it.
There was no nation in that place before Israel was founded. Face reality, they are there and going nowhere, and in fact, have successfully repelled multiple attempts to push them out. Try to eliminate them and they will take you with them.
How convincing do you think you are when you simply repeat your same slogans, word for word?
Are the goal posts getting heavy from moving them all the time?
Nostra
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Not gonna subscribe to your link, Dumbass.
Bring the data showing "everybody is paying 27%"
That's what happens when someone relies on regurgitated phrases instead of actually writing original thoughts.
Really? Did the attackers in LA ask the Jews if they were Zionists or did they just attack them? No one cares if Jews are Zionists or not, that is just a leftist lie.
House Democrats block consideration of bill sanctioning Hamas financial supporters
House Democrats rejected a Republican push on Tuesday to expedite legislation that would apply sanctions on Hamas militants amid an escalating military conflict with Israel.
Still, there’s some evidence that Democrats who took this stance, opposing sanctions against Hamas supporters, are simply listening to their base. A new Trafalgar Group survey indicates that 38.5 percent of self-identified Democrats blame Israel for the current violence, 15.5 percent blame Hamas, about 6 percent each blame Iran and the Palestinian Authority, and 34.4 percent aren’t sure.
Meanwhile, 12.5 percent of self-identified Republicans blame Israel for the current violence, 42.5 percent blame Hamas, 14.6 percent blame Iran, 10.5 percent blame the Palestinian Authority, and 19.8 percent aren’t sure.
Post pictures of the region from before Israel's founding as a nation and from after, then try to tell us how Israel hasn't built anything for themselves.A. They are not home made. Gaza has no rocket store, warhead store nor Amazon delivery. They are smuggled in from Iran. You lied.The rockets raining down on Israel never happened?Last I checked that’s a direct violation of international law.
INTERNATIONAL EVENTS
As Hamas terrorists literally hide behind civilians to attack Israel,
Ilhan Omar does her part to dispel ‘the myth of ‘human shield’ in Palestine’
As Hamas terrorists literally hide behind civilians to attack Israel, Ilhan Omar does her part to dispel ‘the myth of ‘human shield’ in Palestine’
Terrorists attempt to justify using civilians as Human Shields by claiming they are engaged in 'Urban Warfare', requiring the hiding and fighting from within a civilian population, which they claim is completely different from using innocent civilians as 'Human Shields'.
- 'Urban Warfare' is combat conducted in, for example, House-to-House combat, not intentionally placing rocket launchers you are using to attack the next city / territory on top of hospitals or in schools.
'Hamas is not using innocent people as 'Human Shields' - the terrorists can't help that they live within civilian populations - 'There is just so much space in Gaza to go around'.
WTF?! REALLY?!
....and of course there is more BS attempts to justify Hamas using innocent civilians - children - as human shields from terrorist-supporting/sympathizing anti-Semites like Omar are willing to spread:
"And by Ilhan Omar’s faulty logic, Israel is a legitimate target of Hamas terrorists:
An Important thread on the myth of “human shield” in Palestine
— Ilhan Omar (@IlhanMN) May 12, 2021"
HAMAS USES INNOCENT CIVILIANS AS HUMAN SHIELDS....PERIOD. THAT HAS BEEN AND CONTINUES TO BE PROVEN.
"The headlines in most places were entirely predictable: “UN Says Israel Killed 44 Palestinians in Schools During Gaza War.” That was indeed one finding of a UN report published Monday — but only part of the story.
The report also confirmed something Israel’s been saying all along: Hamas stored mortars and other weapons in at least three UN schools during last summer’s war and fired rockets at Israel from two of them."
UN report outlines how Hamas used kids as human shields
The headlines in most places were entirely predictable: “UN Says Israel Killed 44 Palestinians in Schools During Gaza War.” That was indeed one finding of a UN report published Monday — but only pa…
Hamas admits it used civilians as human shields, had terrorists mixed in with crowd
"Two days after the siege on Israel’s border, Hamas acknowledged that 50 of the 60 people killed during the protests were members of the terrorist organization. What Hamas likely won’t admit is that the other Palestinians who died during this altercation were used as human shields to protect the terrorists."
The inhumanity of Hamas’ human shields
Recently, I had the opportunity to lead a congressional delegation to Jerusalem for the opening of the U.S. embassy. During our visit, The Jerusalem Post front page was “Promises Made, Promises Kept,” with a picture of President Trump. Sadly, while the United States was keeping its promise to...
H.R. 3542
H.R. 3542 states that it is U.S. policy to: (1) condemn the use of human shields by Hamas as an act of terrorism and a violation of human rights and international humanitarian law, and (2) act against those engaging in or supporting the use of human shields. The President is urged to direct the U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations (U.N.) to use U.S. influence at the U.N. Security Council to secure support for a resolution imposing multilateral sanctions against Hamas's use of human shields.
Summary of H.R. 3542 (115th): Hamas Human Shields Prevention Act - GovTrack.us
Summary of H.R. 3542 (115th): Hamas Human Shields Prevention Act
Hamas' use of civilians as human shields
Hamas and the other terrorist organizations in the Gaza Strip have adopted various tactics of using civilians as human shields. One of them is encouraging civilians to gather on roofs to prevent terrorists and their houses from being attacked by the Israeli Air Force.
1. Hamas spokesman, Sami Abu Zuhri was interviewed on 8 July, and called on the Palestinian people to use the human shield tactic to defend their homes: "We in the Hamas movement call on our people to adopt this procedure" (Source: Memri and Channel 10)
So where’s the Lefts precious UN?
The UN knows it NEVER HAPPENED.
Everything Israel says is essentially a lie.
Like I said, you Leftards are a special kind of evil.
Wrong.
We were talking about the claim that rockets were fired from the roofs of hospitals.
That obviously makes no sense and is a lie.
How would anyone even get all these rockets up on to a hospital roof anyway?
Its not like the elevators go all the way to the roof.
But Palestinian rockets are small and home made, without any guidance. They rarely harm anyone.
I just wish there were more lethal, so that Israel could be stopped from murdering and stealing.
B. A 6 foot rocket with an explosive warhead is very lethal. That’s why our military has been using them for 80 years. Lie #2 by you.
C. At least 6 dead and dozens injured from the Hamas terrorists rocket attacks. Numerous Palestinians have been killed and wounded by their own rockets. Lie #3 by you.
D. Hamas terrorists use human shields. Lie #4 by you The Leftist Atlantic:
Hamas Quietly Admits It Fired Rockets from Civilian Areas
The Gaza terrorist group offers that "mistakes were made" in its summer conflict with Israel.
E. It is a direct violation of international law to intentionally target civilians. All Hamas and their supporters should be executed for their war crimes.
Liar.
A. Palestinians have been making rockets for 70 years now. A rocket is just a tube filled with propellant with a funnel shaped nozzle.
They are easy to make from home. I have built hundreds of model rockets at home, and some have gone for miles. They can't smuggle from Iran or anywhere, because Israel cut off all commerce and inspects all packages.
B. The size of the rocket is irrelevant. They point is all the propellant is almost immediately burned up, and payload weight greatly reduces range. The payload then is limited to a few ounces. And that can never be very lethal. Our military has NEVER tried to use little rockets with such a range limitation. When we want a long range lethal rocket, we make it much larger. When we use little rockets, like air to ground, they don't need much propellant because they are short range, get velocity from the launching aircraft, and gain speed from gravity. We do NOT use rockets at all similar to these Palestinians rockets, except on the 4th of July.
C. Obviously Palestinians are going to be killed from home made rockets, because they are going to have problems mixing the propellant with the wrong pressure for the container. It is very unlikely any of the rockets ever killed anyone, and it is more likely the tens of thousands of rockets fired as interceptors from Iron Dome is what actually killed some Israelis.
D. Anyone claiming Hamas is using human shields is lying. Gaza has the single highest population density in the world. There is no where in Gaza that does not have a civilian population. But the claims rockets were launched from hospital roof tops are obvious lies. How would anyone even get rockets to rooftops? They would have to carry then up ladders. It is not like there are freight elevators to the roof tops. They should have claimed rockets were fired from parking lots. At least that could have been possible. Rooftops is just an obvious lie.
E. Hamas is not deliberately targeting civilians but simply does not have the range or guidance to do any better. So it is perfectly legal. Just like the US incinerating the civilians at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
But there likely are no innocent civilians in Israel. They all do their stint in the IDF and remain on reserve. And since no one in Israel has ever paid for any home, they all know they are in possession of stolen property. They are all totally guilty.
Toddsterpatriot
Diamond Member
Here's his "data"
If you subtract out the 15.3% payroll taxes the bottom 80% pay,
you can see just how ridiculous his mewling really is.
And, of course, would NEVER tolerate ANY of those rockets being fired into his/her neighborhood from ANYWHERE, regardless of the provocation. That's where the hypocrisy becomes evident.Rigby must think neither the amount of damage done not the fact thatterrorist Hamas fired over 4000 rockets into Israel matters...as long as they were tiny rockets with tiny payloads.
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