Hamas leader: Nations are recognizing Palestinian state due to ‘fruits of October 7’

[toomuchtime_]

And that hasn't been part of Christianity. The Jews killed Jesus, according to the Bible.

(Please note, I don't think the Jews killed Jesus because I don't think Jesus ever existed. But it's still in the Bible and Vatican II trying to paper it over doesn't change that.)

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/Genocide%20Convention-FactSheet-ENG.pdf

DEFINITION OF GENOCIDE IN THE CONVENTION: The current definition of Genocide is set out in Article II of the Genocide Convention:
Genocide means any of the following acts committed withthe intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

What the Zionists are doing in Gaza definitely meets the first three conditions and could be arguably said to meet the fourth one.

Actually, Europeans, Romans, killed Jesus, then, after becoming Christians, turned around and blamed Israel for what they had done.

Jesus was an historical person and there are records of his execution by the Romans, but we have only the Gospels, none of which were written by people who were his contemporaries, as to the rest of the stories that were written about Jesus.

Only an idiot or a bigot would write, "I don't believe Jesus ever existed."

Genocide means any of the following acts committed withthe intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group

Clearly, Israel has no such intent, so there is no genocide in Gaza. Are you really so stupid that you can't understand that part of the definition of genocide?

In fact, if you were able to look at the facts, it would be clear to you that the military structure Hamas has been building for 17 years, was designed to use civilian infrastructure as a shield to protect the terrorists by making it impossible to reach the terrorists in their tunnels without first destroying the civilian infrastructure they are hiding behind. A high civilian mortality rate is the last weapon the Palestinian terrorists have left in their arsenal in their war against the Jews.

As difficult as it is to watch the present war, since the Palestinians refuse to live in peace with Jews, the only alternative to destroying the terrorists and demilitarizing Gaza now is an endless stream of wars initiated by the Palestinians and paused by ceasefires for the foreseeable future.

 

[Hector12]

I dislike (not hate) the Jews for what they do. (Or more specifically, the Zionists.)

All the Zionists want is a small sliver of land bordering the Meditation Sea. There is plenty of land in the Arab world for the Palestinians. The Palestinians kill homosexuals, rape their female relatives, and kill them when they get pregnant.

 

[Hector12]

I also recognize that America has committed centuries of oppression against black people, and frankly, I can't think of another country that has done anything like this to a minority population.

Think of what Nazi Germany did to the Jews.

OK, let's talk about Negroes. Whites did not enslave them. They were enslaved by other African Negroes and sold to white slave traders. During this time Negro slavery was widespread in Africa and the Muslem world. In addition to enslaving African Negroes, Muslims raided the coast of Europe all the way to Iceland for slaves. Muslims castrated male slaves. In addition, they cut off the penises of Negro slaves.

I am not in any way excusing the white trade in African Negroes. I wish it had not been allowed. I wish there were virtually no Negroes in the United States.

With a miniscule Negro population in the United States the crime rate would be much lower. The cost of our criminal system and our welfare system would be much lower. The downtown areas of our cities would not be asphalt jungles, characterized by crime and moral degeneracy.

Downtown areas would be centers of civilization, known for art galleries, museums, libraries, theaters, concert halls, and atmospheric restaurants and taverns. It would be possible to watch a movie or a play, or to attend a symphony concert or a ballet that ended at 10:00 pm, walk two miles to get home, and be perfectly safe.

There are a few Negroes who perform and behave as well as most whites. I have had several as friends. I have also been mugged, robbed at gunpoint, and nearly murdered by Negro criminals. No white person, no Oriental, and no Hispanic has ever committed a crime against me. I in turn have never harmed any Negro on earth.

 

[Hector12]

The only thing the Jews do to antagonize people is to perform better than they do and to earn more money as a result.

I am not Jewish, by the way. If I was I would not praise Jews like I do. Jews are humble about their superiority. I am not reluctant to point it out. I have an equally high opinion of Orientals. I am not one of those either.

 

[Shusha]

Nope. This is one of the few things I agree with Trump on. Do a peace deal on the 28 points, redraw the border, and be done with it.

Oddly enough, this is something you and I also agree on. That said, the Arab Palestinians seem not to want to "be done with it". How can we convince the Arab Palestinians to "be done with it"?

You see, I get where the Palestinians are coming from. If some foreigners came in, stole my land, and routinely killed my people, I'd be out looking for revenge.

Okay, help me out. What I don't get about where the Palestinians are coming from is that they keep trying this whole "revenge" thing and getting their asses handed to them. Why would you keep poking that bear?

Conversely, I don't get the Zionists at all. Going to a miserable place where people want to kill you is pretty stupid, especially if your reason is "Because God Said So".

You are working very hard not to "get" the Jewish people. First, Israel is far from miserable. Its a beautiful place, the people are all lovely and warm and talkative and interested, the food is amazing, and it feels safe and comfortable.

And it is not just about Gd, though there is that and it influences people profoundly. Its about being home and being with family. It is the easiest thing in the world to understand, but you keep repeating the same tired line over and over.

 

[JoeB131]

How about if you move into the neighborhood and I sent 6 million of your people to the gas Chambers

Um, you missed the point entirely.

The Palestinians didn't send anyone to the Gas Chambers.

They just had a bunch of people show up on their land and started stealing it.

Now, if someone had suggested after the war, "Let's carve out a chunk of Europe to be the new Jewish Homeland," I wouldn't have had an issue with it. The Holocaust was Europe's (not just Germany's) fault.

But the Palestinians were kind of blameless.

 

[JoeB131]

Oddly enough, this is something you and I also agree on. That said, the Arab Palestinians seem not to want to "be done with it". How can we convince the Arab Palestinians to "be done with it"?

Go back to Europe where you came from.

 

[JoeB131]

Actually, Europeans, Romans, killed Jesus, then, after becoming Christians, turned around and blamed Israel for what they had done.

Oh, another "Christian" who doesn't read his own bible.

Read the Bible. Pontius Pilate wanted to let Jesus go. The angry mob, led by Caphias, were the ones who insisted on his death.

 

[JoeB131]

Think of what Nazi Germany did to the Jews.

Yes, after the Jews overthrew the Kaiser and made a straight-up mess of the post-war economy, the Germans turned to Hitler and did some truly horrid stuff.

OK, let's talk about Negroes. Whites did not enslave them. They were enslaved by other African Negroes and sold to white slave traders. During this time Negro slavery was widespread in Africa and the Muslem world. In addition to enslaving African Negroes, Muslims raided the coast of Europe all the way to Iceland for slaves. Muslims castrated male slaves. In addition, they cut off the penises of Negro slaves.

Um, wow, you know, only a five year old screams, "TIMMY DID IT, TOO!!!!"

 

[Jroc]

Um, you missed the point entirely.

The Palestinians didn't send anyone to the Gas Chambers.

They just had a bunch of people show up on their land and started stealing it.

Now, if someone had suggested after the war, "Let's carve out a chunk of Europe to be the new Jewish Homeland," I wouldn't have had an issue with it. The Holocaust was Europe's (not just Germany's) fault.

But the Palestinians were kind of blameless.

There's no such thing as Palestine as a country . Thats a European name, given to the area by Europeans, who expelled the Jews originally, and later after the fall of the last caliphate and its defeat by the Europeans in WW1, they invented the countries of Lebanon Syria Iraq Jordan ect.. and here we are.

it's not really relevant what you think China boy. Jewish civilization began there and exist there . .... Jews aren't victims anymore China boy, no matter how much your Chinese benefactors , or you, or the islamists, or the rest of your Jew hating friends like it.

 

[Jroc]

Yes, after the Jews overthrew the Kaiser and made a straight-up mess of the post-war economy, the Germans turned to Hitler and did some truly horrid stuff.

Lol.... Did you make that story up yourself? China boy or did you get it from Hitler's memoirs? the Jews overthrew the Kaiser? now tell us how that happened China boy. Is this is a Chinese history lesson you're going giving us? So a powerful Jewish army invaded Germany and overthrew the Kaiser? Wtf?...that's crazy!! ...who knew?

 

[toomuchtime_]

Um, you missed the point entirely.

The Palestinians didn't send anyone to the Gas Chambers.

They just had a bunch of people show up on their land and started stealing it.

Now, if someone had suggested after the war, "Let's carve out a chunk of Europe to be the new Jewish Homeland," I wouldn't have had an issue with it. The Holocaust was Europe's (not just Germany's) fault.

But the Palestinians were kind of blameless.

You keep telling the same old lies about Jews stealing Arab lands over and over again when you know the reason the Arabs hate Jews is that persecuting Jews is a core value of Islamic culture, law and religion since the 7th century.

"From the early years of Islamic civilization, Muslim jurists, basing on Qur’anic directives, devised an elaborate hierarchy in which monotheistic non-Muslims, such as Christians and Jews, would be “protected” at a low level and tolerated as second-class citizens. Guidelines for their treatment were embodied in the “Pact of ‘Umar.” Limitations on the status of non-Muslims included discriminatory clothing regulations and occupational restrictions. Non-Muslims were required to pay a poll tax (jizya) as well as discriminatory taxes on agricultural produce."

“Ornament of the World” and the Jews of Spain

At times tolerant, at other times intensely intolerant, Spain’s intergroup relations formed a fragile coexistence of Muslims, Christians, and Jews. Although often tenuous, the coexistence of diverse languages, peoples, and religions produced an extraordinary symbiosis and distinctive...

www.neh.gov

 

[toomuchtime_]

Oh, another "Christian" who doesn't read his own bible.

Read the Bible. Pontius Pilate wanted to let Jesus go. The angry mob, led by Caphias, were the ones who insisted on his death.

And the Romans, Europeans, who held all the power at that time, killed Jesus and later claimed the Jews killed him.

None of this, of course, is relevant to the fact that hatred of Jews has been a core value of Islan since the 7th century and is the underlying cause of all the conflict in the ME today.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Go back to Europe where you came from.

 

[Shusha]

Go back to Europe where you came from.

You make no sense. On the one hand you say, "make a peace deal, draw the borders, and be done with it". On the other, you say "it won't be done with until the Jews 'go back where they came from'". Which is it?

 

[Hector12]

 

[Hector12]

"Reputation is Everything": Honor Killing Among the Palestinians​

by James Emery

In the Palestinian communities of the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Israel, and Jordan, women are executed in their homes, in open fields, and occasionally in public, sometimes before crowds of cheering onlookers...

"I was forced to marry my cousin," laments a young Palestinian woman. "I hated him. He beat me and humiliated me in front of his family and friends. But what could I do? If I had fled, I would have been killed."...

Among Palestinians, all sexual encounters, including rape and incest, are blamed on the woman...

Some Palestinian women, facing a loss of honor and certain death, have been offered a chance "to die with dignity" by strapping on explosives and killing Israelis...

In some areas, a Palestinian woman is required to have a male relative accompany her whenever she leaves the home. Unfortunately, her male "guardian" -- father, brother, uncle, or cousin -- may be a sexual predator who rapes her. Should she become pregnant, he will publicly condemn her for dishonoring the family after killing both her and their unborn child. Last year, seventeen-year-old Afaf Younes was killed by her father, who had allegedly been sexually molesting her. Afaf had tried to escape his sexual abuse by running away, but she was caught and returned to her father. He then shot her in the name of honor.

A sixteen-year-old Palestinian girl became pregnant after being raped by her younger brother. Once her condition became known, her family encouraged her older brother to kill her to remove the blemish from their honor. Her brothers, the rapist and the murderer, were exonerated. The girl was blamed. "She made a mistake," said one of her male cousins. "She had to pay for it."

"Reputation is Everything": Honor Killing Among the Palestinians

by James Emery If a woman brings shame to the family -- through allegations of premarital or extramarital sex, by refusing an arranged marriage, or attempting to obtain a divorce -- her male relatives are bound by duty and culture to murder her. "Honor is everything," says Ahmed, a 52-year-old…

anthropologist.livejournal.com

 

[JoeB131]

There's no such thing as Palestine as a country . Thats a European name, given to the area by Europeans, who expelled the Jews originally, and later after the fall of the last caliphate and its defeat by the Europeans in WW1, they invented the countries of Lebanon Syria Iraq Jordan ect.. and here we are.

Actually, where we are is the British got the Arabs to revolt against the Turks on the promise of independence, and then turned around and screwred them by turning the place into colonies.

Jewish civilization began there and exist there .

Except the faction that survived has little in common with the group that lived their 2000 year ago.

Most of those people converted to Paganism, then Christianity, and then Islam.

Lol.... Did you make that story up yourself? China boy or did you get it from Hitler's memoirs? the Jews overthrew the Kaiser?

Read about the revolution that overthrew the Kaiser. The ringleaders were all Jewish.

German revolution of 1918–1919 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[JoeB131]

You make no sense. On the one hand you say, "make a peace deal, draw the borders, and be done with it". On the other, you say "it won't be done with until the Jews 'go back where they came from'". Which is it?

Well, it's pretty simple.

Ukraine- Lots of Russians were left on the Ukraine side of the border. Redraw the border.

Palestine- European Jews forcible colonized the place. Send them back where they came from. Or if America is so keen on a Jewish State, resettle them here.

 

[Jroc]

Actually, where we are is the British got the Arabs to revolt against the Turks on the promise of independence, and then turned around and screwred them by turning the place into colonies.



Except the faction that survived has little in common with the group that lived their 2000 year ago.

Most of those people converted to Paganism, then Christianity, and then Islam.



Read about the revolution that overthrew the Kaiser. The ringleaders were all Jewish.

German revolution of 1918–1919 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You're so full of s*** China boy..... Don't ever give me a link to Wikipedia , there's nothing in there about Jews anyways .. 12,000 Jews died fighting for the German Kaiser on the front... The Jews in Russia were accused of being German sympathizers and spies.... Crawl back into your hole ...people like you are stain on our society....you should move to china with your companion