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Guns and Afghanistan...what should have been done over the last 20 years.....

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We can see what has happened in Afghanistan.....the military collapsed and now civilians are at the mercy of barbarians.....women who grew up in the last 20 years knowing relative freedom....for Afghanistan.....are now about to experience the middle ages......

What should have been done?

If we wanted to help these people, we should have trained citizen militias, armed them with rifles and pistols....for the eventual day when we left and the Afghan military collapsed.

From the numbers I heard, there are about 75,000 taliban monsters.....arming the entire population in the cities as well as the country side would have given the people there who wanted to resist the ability to shoot taliban monsters in guerilla warfare.

Stockpiles of arms and ammo....training, especially of Afghan women in the cities...would have made sense...

And for the anti-gun extremists who prefer that women are beaten, raped, tortured, sold into slavery and murdered....the taliban doesn't have tanks, F-15s and nuclear weapons.....so rifles and pistols in the hands of 14.2 million Afghan women? Would have made a difference...

Sure....culture may have interferred over there, but the young women of Afghanistan, who wanted to set up resistance cells would have had a chance.....

We should have trained and armed them for this eventuality...
 

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Fucking classic.
 
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Fucking classic.


There you are Tommy....

Here...answer these .....since you keep refusing to answer them...

A woman is grabbed by a violent serial rapist at a bus stop, a train platform or in her apartment...he plans on beating, raping and murdering her. She has a gun, and can stop the rape with the gun......

Do you want her to use that gun to stop the rape?

You are given the ability to travel in time......knowing this woman is about to be brutally beaten, raped and murdered.....do you go back in time and take that gun away from her before the rape?
 

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We can see what has happened in Afghanistan.....the military collapsed and now civilians are at the mercy of barbarians.....women who grew up in the last 20 years knowing relative freedom....for Afghanistan.....are now about to experience the middle ages......

What should have been done?

If we wanted to help these people, we should have trained citizen militias, armed them with rifles and pistols....for the eventual day when we left and the Afghan military collapsed.

From the numbers I heard, there are about 75,000 taliban monsters.....arming the entire population in the cities as well as the country side would have given the people there who wanted to resist the ability to shoot taliban monsters in guerilla warfare.

Stockpiles of arms and ammo....training, especially of Afghan women in the cities...would have made sense...

And for the anti-gun extremists who prefer that women are beaten, raped, tortured, sold into slavery and murdered....the taliban doesn't have tanks, F-15s and nuclear weapons.....so rifles and pistols in the hands of 14.2 million Afghan women? Would have made a difference...

Sure....culture may have interferred over there, but the young women of Afghanistan, who wanted to set up resistance cells would have had a chance.....

We should have trained and armed them for this eventuality...
A mental midget's solution to problems you know absolutely nothing about.
 
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A mental midget's solution to problems you know absolutely nothing about.


Tell that to the women as they are sold off into marriage and sexual slavery to the taliban...........

Of course....as my questions point out....for an asshole like you, it is better that a woman is raped, beaten, and murdered than she be able to use a gun to stop it.....

For you......these women who grew up for the last 20 years in an American occupied Afghanistan are better off being raped, beaten and murdered......that is what you prefer to arming these women so they can put up a fight.
 

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Tell that to the women as they are sold off into marriage and sexual slavery to the taliban...........

Of course....as my questions point out....for an asshole like you, it is better that a woman is raped, beaten, and murdered than she be able to use a gun to stop it.....

For you......these women who grew up for the last 20 years in an American occupied Afghanistan are better off being raped, beaten and murdered......that is what you prefer to arming these women so they can put up a fight.
They were sold off in marriage and sexual slavery for that entire 20 years. 20 years of lives and treasure poured into a situation so disastrous, so incompetent, that the country collapsed in a week. We trained hundreds of thousands to fight the Taliban and gave them a massive number of guns. Now those guns belong to the Taliban. You got your way and you don't even know it.
 
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They were sold off in marriage and sexual slavery for that entire 20 years. 20 years of lives and treasure poured into a situation so disastrous, so incompetent, that the country collapsed in a week. We trained hundreds of thousands to fight the Taliban and gave them a massive number of guns. Now those guns belong to the Taliban. You got your way and you don't even know it.


Shit head.....the women in Kabul and other places were living more modern lives, compared to pre-American occupation...read some of the fucking stories...you idiot.......

No...we trained the Afghan military and they gave up.....leaving the Unarmed civilians at the mercy of 75,000 monsters...in a country of about 30 million......


Arming the citizens...training them....would have given them a chance.....relying on just the government ended as it always does....with the government fucking up.....
 

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Shit head.....the women in Kabul and other places were living more modern lives, compared to pre-American occupation...read some of the fucking stories...you idiot.......

No...we trained the Afghan military and they gave up.....leaving the Unarmed civilians at the mercy of 75,000 monsters...in a country of about 30 million......


Arming the citizens...training them....would have given them a chance.....relying on just the government ended as it always does....with the government fucking up.....
There was no government. There are medieval tribes, and small areas where people could pretend there was government. We never even secured the 2 mile road from the U.S. embassy to the Kabul airport. In 20 years.
 
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There was no government. There are medieval tribes, and small areas where people could pretend there was government. We never even secured the 2 mile road from the U.S. embassy to the Kabul airport. In 20 years.


Again.......14 million women........thousands in the cities......they should have been trained and armed for guerilla actions against the taliban........instead of simply handing them over for rape and murder....

But that is what you prefer.....rather than those women and other men who could have used guns......rape and murder instead of guns ......you are sick.
 

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Again.......14 million women........thousands in the cities......they should have been trained and armed for guerilla actions against the taliban........instead of simply handing them over for rape and murder....

But that is what you prefer.....rather than those women and other men who could have used guns......rape and murder instead of guns ......you are sick.
You're the dumbest person on this entire board
 
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Wow.....that's all you have............could be biden is smarter than you....
I think you're too stupid to waste any more time on. Every single day of your life for years and years on here just over and over with "guns are the greatest miracle of all time; literally every problem is solved with guns. Dirty mirror? Give it a gun! Car troubles? Get some guns! Can't get your dick up? Buy a bunch of guns! Guns guns guns!"
 
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I think you're too stupid to waste any more time on. Every single day of your life for years and years on here just over and over with "guns are the greatest miracle of all time; literally every problem is solved with guns. Dirty mirror? Give it a gun! Car troubles? Get some guns! Can't get your dick up? Buy a bunch of guns! Guns guns guns!"

every problem is solved with guns.

No......never once have I said that, you lazy asshole.


I have always stated that the best means of defeating a violent criminal during a rape, robbery, or murder is a gun...especially for women, the elderly,the weak........

And there it is.......we talk guns, you think "dick."

What is it with you guys and guns.........you see a gun, you get all hot and bothered, you sweat, shake and start rubbing yourselves...


Get help, guns are tools...they are not sex toys.
 

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Every single day of your life for years and years on here just over and over with "guns are the greatest miracle of all time; literally every problem is solved with guns. Dirty mirror? Give it a gun! Car troubles? Get some guns! Can't get your dick up? Buy a bunch of guns! Guns guns guns!"
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All of this is a lie, and demonstrates an awareness of the ianbility to meaningfully respond.
 

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We can see what has happened in Afghanistan.....the military collapsed and now civilians are at the mercy of barbarians.....women who grew up in the last 20 years knowing relative freedom....for Afghanistan.....are now about to experience the middle ages......

What should have been done?

If we wanted to help these people, we should have trained citizen militias, armed them with rifles and pistols....for the eventual day when we left and the Afghan military collapsed.

From the numbers I heard, there are about 75,000 taliban monsters.....arming the entire population in the cities as well as the country side would have given the people there who wanted to resist the ability to shoot taliban monsters in guerilla warfare.

Stockpiles of arms and ammo....training, especially of Afghan women in the cities...would have made sense...

And for the anti-gun extremists who prefer that women are beaten, raped, tortured, sold into slavery and murdered....the taliban doesn't have tanks, F-15s and nuclear weapons.....so rifles and pistols in the hands of 14.2 million Afghan women? Would have made a difference...

Sure....culture may have interferred over there, but the young women of Afghanistan, who wanted to set up resistance cells would have had a chance.....

We should have trained and armed them for this eventuality...
We should have carpet bombed Taliban strongholds and sanctuaries non-stop, like Sherman marching to the sea, until every Afghan was afraid to even say the word "Taliban" for fear of being carpet bombed some more.
 

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I think you're too stupid to waste any more time on. Every single day of your life for years and years on here just over and over with "guns are the greatest miracle of all time; literally every problem is solved with guns. Dirty mirror? Give it a gun! Car troubles? Get some guns! Can't get your dick up? Buy a bunch of guns! Guns guns guns!"
Your ability to live in one of the safest, countries in the world with more liberties than just about any other is because people picked up firearms and kicked a bunch of ass. Be it law enforcement, military, or civilian: guns are the umbrella that you sleep under every single night of your life.
 
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We should have carpet bombed Taliban strongholds and sanctuaries non-stop, like Sherman marching to the sea, until every Afghan was afraid to even say the word "Taliban" for fear of being carpet bombed some more.


A gutsy move would be to drop Airborne forces to cut off any retreat by the taliban to Pakistan and then wipe them out.....now.........since they are out of their holes ......but that would require wanting to devastate these monsters....

The best thing now is to retake Bagram, send in enough troops to evacuate civilians, and drop off weapons for the men and women in Afghanistan who want to stay alive........
 

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A gutsy move would be to drop Airborne forces to cut off any retreat by the taliban to Pakistan and then wipe them out.....now.........since they are out of their holes ......but that would require wanting to devastate these monsters....

The best thing now is to retake Bagram, send in enough troops to evacuate civilians, and drop off weapons for the men and women in Afghanistan who want to stay alive........
The Mujahadeen is already making their plans. The fight against the Taliban isn't over.

 

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The war in Afghanistan was always to get Bin Laden. We let him get away at Tora Bora.

There should never have been a mission to nation build.

When Bin Laden was finally killed we should have declared victory, packed up and then left.
 

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The war in Afghanistan was always to get Bin Laden. We let him get away at Tora Bora.

There should never have been a mission to nation build.

When Bin Laden was finally killed we should have declared victory, packed up and then left.
The absence of a nation building operation in 1989 is the reason we ended up back in Afghanistan in 2001. We be back there in 10-20 years.
 

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