Gunfire reported at California veterans home

[Esmeralda]

No...that is criminal carnage, and how many of those doing the shooting are felons with prior weapons convictions let out of jail by democrats? That is the real problem, not normal, law abiding gun owners who have guns for self defense.

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Dumb comment. CRIMINAL GUN OWNERS. Criminal NRA members. Criminals. What's the difference moron? When these mythological, so-called "law abiding" gun nuts allow laws that cannot restrict gun ownership, THEY become the criminals. They are the problem.
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The ultimate law of the land, The Constitution states that as a law abiding citizen I have the right to keep and bear arms and no one can infringe on that right. People like you who want to take away Constitutional rights are the problem.

It is not that literal. If it were, we would not have, for example, open or concealed carry laws. We would sell guns to 12 year olds. There are laws that are in use that restrict guns in one way or another. Simply adding a law that bans a certain type of gun is also allowable per the Constitution. I suggest if you are very worried about it, you proceed to a deserted island or the Alaskan wilderness with all your guns and have a happy life. The majority of Americans are for stricter gun control. Deal with it.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Largest home for Vets is shut down as masses of LE converge on the complex, the largest home for our Vets.

Yountville, California, veterans home has reports of gunfire - CNN

This kind of thing happens over and over and over again and still the NRA and all the gunnuts refuse to accept any kind of serious gun control. It's just insane.

Useful idiot.

Gun control is sanity. Anything else is idiocy. So look in the mirror and you will see the idiot.

Taking crazy people and criminals off the street is sanity. Going after inanimate objects is insanity.

It is not sanity to imagine that the US can monitor the mental health of every person in the country, especially if that person has had no mental health issues known to a doctor, has never been in a mental institution, has, in fact, never had any mental health issues that are on record. As well, studies show that most people with documented mental health issues are only a threat to themselves, if any threat at all. They are by far more likely to be suicidal than homicidal. It is nuts to think you can control this problem by monitoring mental health.

Kentucky school shooter "said he was an atheist and that his life had no purpose and other people's lives also had no purpose." Sadly his actions are actually consistent with his worldview. If there is no God, then ultimately life has no purpose or meaning.

Police: Teen Saw Shooting as Experiment, Showed No Remorse

FYI - My dad routinely took his rifle to school so he could go rabbit hunting afterwards.
Guns are not the problem.

 

[Esmeralda]

This kind of thing happens over and over and over again and still the NRA and all the gunnuts refuse to accept any kind of serious gun control. It's just insane.

Useful idiot.

Gun control is sanity. Anything else is idiocy. So look in the mirror and you will see the idiot.

Taking crazy people and criminals off the street is sanity. Going after inanimate objects is insanity.

It is not sanity to imagine that the US can monitor the mental health of every person in the country, especially if that person has had no mental health issues known to a doctor, has never been in a mental institution, has, in fact, never had any mental health issues that are on record. As well, studies show that most people with documented mental health issues are only a threat to themselves, if any threat at all. They are by far more likely to be suicidal than homicidal. It is nuts to think you can control this problem by monitoring mental health.

Kentucky school shooter "said he was an atheist and that his life had no purpose and other people's lives also had no purpose." Sadly his actions are actually consistent with his worldview. If there is no God, then ultimately life has no purpose or meaning.

Police: Teen Saw Shooting as Experiment, Showed No Remorse

FYI - My dad routinely took his rifle to school so he could go rabbit hunting afterwards.
Guns are not the problem.

There are millions upon millions of athiests in the world, and they are not any more mentally ill than anyone else. You need to read about existentialiism. LOL Your post is really laughable. We can't go after everyone someone like you thinks is mentally ill. My impression, after having a lot of discussion with gunnuts these past few weeks is that they are the ones who are truly mentally ill. There is absolutely no sane reason to cling to their guns the way they do. None.

 

[SSGT Bags]

No...that is criminal carnage, and how many of those doing the shooting are felons with prior weapons convictions let out of jail by democrats? That is the real problem, not normal, law abiding gun owners who have guns for self defense.

Again, almost every mass shooter had no criminal record.

Holmes, - No criminal record.
Cho - No criminal record
Lanza - No criminal record
Paddock - No Criminal Record
Mateen- No Criminal Record
Cruz - No Criminal Record.
Loughner - No Criminal Record

The only guy with a "Criminal" record was Kelley, who shot up that church, and that was a domestic violence beef.

Second issue- yes, violent felons are able to get guns despite not being able to buy them because they can borrow, steal or acquire them from someone who can get them legally. That's the problem when you treat gun ownership as a "right".

Look at your list in a different light, and what would you find?
Broken homes.
Mental problems.
SNOWFLAKES
no respect for human life (Planned Parenthood)
Grew up with "safe spaces"
There are deeper problems than inanimate objects.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Useful idiot.

Gun control is sanity. Anything else is idiocy. So look in the mirror and you will see the idiot.

Taking crazy people and criminals off the street is sanity. Going after inanimate objects is insanity.

It is not sanity to imagine that the US can monitor the mental health of every person in the country, especially if that person has had no mental health issues known to a doctor, has never been in a mental institution, has, in fact, never had any mental health issues that are on record. As well, studies show that most people with documented mental health issues are only a threat to themselves, if any threat at all. They are by far more likely to be suicidal than homicidal. It is nuts to think you can control this problem by monitoring mental health.

Kentucky school shooter "said he was an atheist and that his life had no purpose and other people's lives also had no purpose." Sadly his actions are actually consistent with his worldview. If there is no God, then ultimately life has no purpose or meaning.

Police: Teen Saw Shooting as Experiment, Showed No Remorse

FYI - My dad routinely took his rifle to school so he could go rabbit hunting afterwards.
Guns are not the problem.

There are millions upon millions of athiests in the world, and they are not any more mentally ill than anyone else. You need to read about existentialiism. LOL Your post is really laughable. We can't go after everyone someone like you thinks is mentally ill. My impression, after having a lot of discussion with gunnuts these past few weeks is that they are the ones who are truly mentally ill. There is absolutely no sane reason to cling to their guns the way they do. None.

Almost every mass murderer is either atheist or Muslim. Both are signs of mental illness.
Over 160 million people in the past century have been slaughtered by their own governments. All by governments that confiscated guns and persecuted Christianity.

 

[SSGT Bags]

So...you can't explain how more Americans now own and carry guns and our gun crime rates went down....care to try again...?We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...Criminals don't join the NRA....-- gun murder down 49%--gun crime down 75%--violent crime down 72%Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public UnawareCompared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

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Once again, a crazed, hyper-partisan gun freak spouting cherry picked figures that align to the NRA cult. He cannot and will not discuss the topic, he is absolutely incapable of independent thought outside the NRA demagoguery. People have had it with the NRA and their thralls. The time now is for action against the NRA and their bloody gun syncopates.
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Or idiots like you who will not own up to the real problem.

 

[Esmeralda]

Gun control is sanity. Anything else is idiocy. So look in the mirror and you will see the idiot.

Taking crazy people and criminals off the street is sanity. Going after inanimate objects is insanity.

It is not sanity to imagine that the US can monitor the mental health of every person in the country, especially if that person has had no mental health issues known to a doctor, has never been in a mental institution, has, in fact, never had any mental health issues that are on record. As well, studies show that most people with documented mental health issues are only a threat to themselves, if any threat at all. They are by far more likely to be suicidal than homicidal. It is nuts to think you can control this problem by monitoring mental health.

Kentucky school shooter "said he was an atheist and that his life had no purpose and other people's lives also had no purpose." Sadly his actions are actually consistent with his worldview. If there is no God, then ultimately life has no purpose or meaning.

Police: Teen Saw Shooting as Experiment, Showed No Remorse

FYI - My dad routinely took his rifle to school so he could go rabbit hunting afterwards.
Guns are not the problem.

There are millions upon millions of athiests in the world, and they are not any more mentally ill than anyone else. You need to read about existentialiism. LOL Your post is really laughable. We can't go after everyone someone like you thinks is mentally ill. My impression, after having a lot of discussion with gunnuts these past few weeks is that they are the ones who are truly mentally ill. There is absolutely no sane reason to cling to their guns the way they do. None.

Almost every mass murderer is either atheist or Muslim. Both are signs of mental illness.
Over 160 million people in the past century have been slaughtered by their own governments. All by governments that confiscated guns and persecuted Christianity.

LOL That's really seriously hilarious. You're funny.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Taking crazy people and criminals off the street is sanity. Going after inanimate objects is insanity.

It is not sanity to imagine that the US can monitor the mental health of every person in the country, especially if that person has had no mental health issues known to a doctor, has never been in a mental institution, has, in fact, never had any mental health issues that are on record. As well, studies show that most people with documented mental health issues are only a threat to themselves, if any threat at all. They are by far more likely to be suicidal than homicidal. It is nuts to think you can control this problem by monitoring mental health.

Kentucky school shooter "said he was an atheist and that his life had no purpose and other people's lives also had no purpose." Sadly his actions are actually consistent with his worldview. If there is no God, then ultimately life has no purpose or meaning.

Police: Teen Saw Shooting as Experiment, Showed No Remorse

FYI - My dad routinely took his rifle to school so he could go rabbit hunting afterwards.
Guns are not the problem.

There are millions upon millions of athiests in the world, and they are not any more mentally ill than anyone else. You need to read about existentialiism. LOL Your post is really laughable. We can't go after everyone someone like you thinks is mentally ill. My impression, after having a lot of discussion with gunnuts these past few weeks is that they are the ones who are truly mentally ill. There is absolutely no sane reason to cling to their guns the way they do. None.

Almost every mass murderer is either atheist or Muslim. Both are signs of mental illness.
Over 160 million people in the past century have been slaughtered by their own governments. All by governments that confiscated guns and persecuted Christianity.

LOL That's really seriously hilarious. You're funny.

You would consider 160 million murdered to be funny. Most gun grabbers do.

 

[Esmeralda]

It is not sanity to imagine that the US can monitor the mental health of every person in the country, especially if that person has had no mental health issues known to a doctor, has never been in a mental institution, has, in fact, never had any mental health issues that are on record. As well, studies show that most people with documented mental health issues are only a threat to themselves, if any threat at all. They are by far more likely to be suicidal than homicidal. It is nuts to think you can control this problem by monitoring mental health.

Kentucky school shooter "said he was an atheist and that his life had no purpose and other people's lives also had no purpose." Sadly his actions are actually consistent with his worldview. If there is no God, then ultimately life has no purpose or meaning.

Police: Teen Saw Shooting as Experiment, Showed No Remorse

FYI - My dad routinely took his rifle to school so he could go rabbit hunting afterwards.
Guns are not the problem.

There are millions upon millions of athiests in the world, and they are not any more mentally ill than anyone else. You need to read about existentialiism. LOL Your post is really laughable. We can't go after everyone someone like you thinks is mentally ill. My impression, after having a lot of discussion with gunnuts these past few weeks is that they are the ones who are truly mentally ill. There is absolutely no sane reason to cling to their guns the way they do. None.

Almost every mass murderer is either atheist or Muslim. Both are signs of mental illness.
Over 160 million people in the past century have been slaughtered by their own governments. All by governments that confiscated guns and persecuted Christianity.

LOL That's really seriously hilarious. You're funny.

You would consider 160 million murdered to be funny. Most gun grabbers do.

No, it's you that is funny. You and your idiotic and very ignorant take on life.

 

[JoeB131]

I haven't seen any kids with military grade weapons outside of the military or on a range and there goes that comprehension problem again, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. That's pretty damn specific.

You left out the part about a well regulated militia...

WELL REGULATED.

Not some whacky kid with a gun.

 

[JoeB131]

Look at your list in a different light, and what would you find?
Broken homes.
Mental problems.
SNOWFLAKES
no respect for human life (Planned Parenthood)
Grew up with "safe spaces"
There are deeper problems than inanimate objects.

That would be nice, if other industrialized nations didn't have the same problems.

Like in most European countries, they don't give a **** about abortion. Women get them and the government pays for them. Their divorce rates are higher than ours.

And yet they don't produce guys like the ones on my list.

Becuase they might have some whacked out kids with some problems, but those kids CAN'T GET GUNS!!!

 

[2aguy]

You seem to have a comprehension problem. The 2nd Amendment is pretty damn clear on the the rights of the people.

Really? Because I don't see the words "Crazy Kids should have access to military grade weapons" in there anyway.

I do see something about a "Well-Regulated Militia".

AR-15s are not military weapons....have never been used by the military....and all the other semi auto rifles and shotguns are not military weapons...they are civilian weapons...

And the cute thing is....military weapons are actuallly the weapons protected by the 2nd Amendment, moron. Check out the actual Supreme Court rulings Heller, Caetano, Miller....

 

[2aguy]

No...that is criminal carnage, and how many of those doing the shooting are felons with prior weapons convictions let out of jail by democrats? That is the real problem, not normal, law abiding gun owners who have guns for self defense.

Again, almost every mass shooter had no criminal record.

Holmes, - No criminal record.
Cho - No criminal record
Lanza - No criminal record
Paddock - No Criminal Record
Mateen- No Criminal Record
Cruz - No Criminal Record.
Loughner - No Criminal Record

The only guy with a "Criminal" record was Kelley, who shot up that church, and that was a domestic violence beef.

Second issue- yes, violent felons are able to get guns despite not being able to buy them because they can borrow, steal or acquire them from someone who can get them legally. That's the problem when you treat gun ownership as a "right".

Europe doesn't treat gun ownershiip as a Right, and after mass murdering 12 million innocent men, women and children their criminals easily get actual, fully automatic military rifles......all over Europe, Britain and Australia........

 

[2aguy]

So...you can't explain how more Americans now own and carry guns and our gun crime rates went down....care to try again...?We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...Criminals don't join the NRA....-- gun murder down 49%--gun crime down 75%--violent crime down 72%Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public UnawareCompared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

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Once again, a crazed, hyper-partisan gun freak spouting cherry picked figures that align to the NRA cult. He cannot and will not discuss the topic, he is absolutely incapable of independent thought outside the NRA demagoguery. People have had it with the NRA and their thralls. The time now is for action against the NRA and their bloody gun syncopates.
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Moron....that is a Pew Survey, and has nothing to do with the NRA.....you really are that stupid, aren't you....?

 

[2aguy]

Look at your list in a different light, and what would you find?
Broken homes.
Mental problems.
SNOWFLAKES
no respect for human life (Planned Parenthood)
Grew up with "safe spaces"
There are deeper problems than inanimate objects.

That would be nice, if other industrialized nations didn't have the same problems.

Like in most European countries, they don't give a **** about abortion. Women get them and the government pays for them. Their divorce rates are higher than ours.

And yet they don't produce guys like the ones on my list.

Becuase they might have some whacked out kids with some problems, but those kids CAN'T GET GUNS!!!

Yeah....tell us about Norway, and Belgium and France and the 2 students in Britain and Cumbria and Dunblane....moron.....and all the public shootings in Australila, after they banned and confiscated guns....you are such a moron....

 

[2aguy]

Largest home for Vets is shut down as masses of LE converge on the complex, the largest home for our Vets.

Yountville, California, veterans home has reports of gunfire - CNN

This kind of thing happens over and over and over again and still the NRA and all the gunnuts refuse to accept any kind of serious gun control. It's just insane.

Useful idiot.

Gun control is sanity. Anything else is idiocy. So look in the mirror and you will see the idiot.

Taking crazy people and criminals off the street is sanity. Going after inanimate objects is insanity.

It is not sanity to imagine that the US can monitor the mental health of every person in the country, especially if that person has had no mental health issues known to a doctor, has never been in a mental institution, has, in fact, never had any mental health issues that are on record. As well, studies show that most people with documented mental health issues are only a threat to themselves, if any threat at all. They are by far more likely to be suicidal than homicidal. It is nuts to think you can control this problem by monitoring mental health.

Just about everyone of these school shooters was known to psychiatric professionals...including the Florida shooter who told his school shrink about his blood drenched fantasies....

This isn't that hard, they don't hide their dreams and desires to murder people....but obama's Promise Policy kept them from arresting this violent kid after repeated violent attacks and broken laws in the school....

 

[2aguy]

No...that is criminal carnage, and how many of those doing the shooting are felons with prior weapons convictions let out of jail by democrats? That is the real problem, not normal, law abiding gun owners who have guns for self defense.

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Dumb comment. CRIMINAL GUN OWNERS. Criminal NRA members. Criminals. What's the difference moron? When these mythological, so-called "law abiding" gun nuts allow laws that cannot restrict gun ownership, THEY become the criminals. They are the problem.
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The ultimate law of the land, The Constitution states that as a law abiding citizen I have the right to keep and bear arms and no one can infringe on that right. People like you who want to take away Constitutional rights are the problem.

It is not that literal. If it were, we would not have, for example, open or concealed carry laws. We would sell guns to 12 year olds. There are laws that are in use that restrict guns in one way or another. Simply adding a law that bans a certain type of gun is also allowable per the Constitution. I suggest if you are very worried about it, you proceed to a deserted island or the Alaskan wilderness with all your guns and have a happy life. The majority of Americans are for stricter gun control. Deal with it.

No.....if you actually read the Heller decision guns that are "in common use" are specifically protected by the 2nd Amendment.....twit, so that means that semi auto rifles, the most common type of rifle is protected, in particular the AR-15 since it is the most popular of all Rifles in the United States.....

 

[JoeB131]

AR-15s are not military weapons....have never been used by the military....and all the other semi auto rifles and shotguns are not military weapons...they are civilian weapons...

And the cute thing is....military weapons are actuallly the weapons protected by the 2nd Amendment, moron. Check out the actual Supreme Court rulings Heller, Caetano, Miller....

Um, they were designed for use in war.

And, yes, the Second Amendment is about WELL REGULATED MILITIAS.

 

[JoeB131]

Just about everyone of these school shooters was known to psychiatric professionals...including the Florida shooter who told his school shrink about his blood drenched fantasies....

Um.. no.

Most school shooters are not mentally ill.

https://psychiatryonline.org/doi/pdf/10.5555/appi.books.9781615371099

Mass shootings by people with serious mental illness represent less than 1% of all yearly gun-related homicides. In contrast, deaths by suicide using firearms account for the majority of yearly gun-related deaths.

• The vast majority of shootings (70%) occurred in either a place of business or an educational environment. • All but two of the shootings were carried out by a single individual. • The shooter committed suicide in 64 (40%) of the cases. • Most incidents (67%) ended before police even arrived and could engage the perpetrator. • Of the 160 incidents, 64 (40%) qualified as mass murder. • Only 6 (3.8%) of the 160 cases involved a female perpetrator

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah....tell us about Norway, and Belgium and France and the 2 students in Britain and Cumbria and Dunblane....moron.....and all the public shootings in Australila, after they banned and confiscated guns....you are such a moron....

You have to go back 20 years to find a mass shooting in the UK.

If we can get by for 20 days without a mass shooting in this country, it's pure luck.