Gun traffickers can pass any background check, they are not normal gun owners.....

[2aguy]

Let's game this out for a sec:

If the Dems are trying to pass laws, what ADDITIONAL laws should be passed against criminals with illegal firearms. I'm pretty sure they are 100% covered and everything about them is against some law. Whether it's being a crime-committing criminal or having an illegal gun.

So once that area is saturated and the gun crime still keeps happening.

What are they supposed to do?



Why not do something like SUPPORT a solution to the incredibly high gun homicide rate in the US? Rather than just blaming the Dems...why not vote in support of someone who actually is PROPOSING A BETTER SOLUTION?

We do......vote out the democrats...then, the democrats will not be in a position to attack the police, and they won't be able to release the violent gun offenders from jail and prison.......

As you point out, we have all the laws we need.....where it breaks down is the democrats allowing the worst, most violent criminals out of prison and jail, over and over again....

The cops know who the repeat offenders are and arrest them.....but then the democrat party judges and prosecutors release them.....and the democrat party politicians lower the sentences for gun crimes.......

So....vote out democrats....

 

[Vegasgiants]

No they aren't

Yes they are

 

[Vegasgiants]

We do......vote out the democrats...then, the democrats will not be in a position to attack the police, and they won't be able to release the violent gun offenders from jail and prison.......

As you point out, we have all the laws we need.....where it breaks down is the democrats allowing the worst, most violent criminals out of prison and jail, over and over again....

The cops know who the repeat offenders are and arrest them.....but then the democrat party judges and prosecutors release them.....and the democrat party politicians lower the sentences for gun crimes.......

So....vote out democrats....

Your plan is not working

 

[Vegasgiants]

Simple answer is to ENFORCE the existing laws they passed against the criminals with guns in the past.

How five liberal prosecutors presided over crime waves - Washington Examiner

Liberal prosecutors across the country have overseen significant crime waves in America's major cities this year — and have largely stood by their aggressive reforms.The district attorneys came into office vowing to address the inequality they say plagues much of the criminal justice system, to...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Why even the gun laws that exist don't always get enforced | CNN Politics

Despite plenty of disagreement during President Barack Obama's town hall on guns, there was one point on which he and his critics agreed.

www.cnn.com

That plan cant be done

 

[Devils_Advocate]

We need MOAR GUNZ!

You need more laws for what?

 

[Devils_Advocate]

That plan cant be done

So you can’t enforce the laws on the books while enforcing the amount of time the criminal was given?

How many more laws do you need to learn criminals do not obey laws?

All you are doing is making sure the law abiding citizen become a criminal with all the laws you pass while the criminal goes unpunished for breaking the law we already have…

 

[Vegasgiants]

So you can’t enforce the laws on the books while enforcing the amount of time the criminal was given?

How many more laws do you need to learn criminals do not obey laws?

All you are doing is making sure the law abiding citizen become a criminal with all the laws you pass while the criminal goes unpunished for breaking the law we already have…

If your argument is criminals do not obey laws and laws only hurt the law abiding then we should have no laws at all

 

[Devils_Advocate]

If your argument is criminals do not obey laws and laws only hurt the law abiding then we should have no laws at all

How many more laws do you need?

You have all those laws and still you say it ain’t enough, so how many more do you need to make you happy?

You are the one saying you need more, so how many more?

It is against the law to buy a gun illegally or sell one illegally, so why not enforce that law?

 

[Vegasgiants]

How many more laws do you need?

You have all those laws and still you say it ain’t enough, so how many more do you need to make you happy?

You are the one saying you need more, so how many more?

It is against the law to buy a gun illegally or sell one illegally, so why not enforce that law?

I do? Where did I say that? Let's be clear you know who you are talking to

 

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I do? Where did I say that? Let's be clear you know who you are talking to

I for one am glad that you agree with us that it makes no sense whatsoever to punish innocent people for the crimes other people commit. And that anyone who would punish innocent people for the crimes other people commit are overly emotional twats who will never be satisfied until all guns are banned and confiscated.

So glad we got that settled.

 

[Vegasgiants]

I for one am glad that you agree with us that it makes no sense whatsoever to punish innocent people for the crimes other people commit. And that anyone who would punish innocent people for the crimes other people commit are overly emotional twats who will never be satisfied until all guns are banned and confiscated.

So glad we got that settled.

Welcome aboard the gun control train!!!!!!!!!

 

[ding]

Welcome aboard the gun control train!!!!!!!!!

The new moral majority!!!!!!!!!

 

[ding]

Pardon me, but we church ladies don't think you are a good person because you are a gundolator and you gunicate. We are the moral superiority majority because we hate guns and want guns banned and confiscated for your own good.

 

[ding]

Welcome aboard the gun control train!!!!!!!!!

Do you know who opposes gun control?


Satan

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

As you point out, we have all the laws we need.....where it breaks down is the democrats allowing the worst, most violent criminals out of prison and jail, over and over again....

I'd really like to see some documentation on this claim. You keep making it like it's real. So please provide some citation on this.

You DO realize that the 3Strikes law that was passed back in the 90's was signed into law by a DEM PREZ, right?

The cops know who the repeat offenders are and arrest them.....but then the democrat party judges and prosecutors release them.....and the democrat party politicians lower the sentences for gun crimes.......

That doesn't sound like the US justice system. The one where DA's have the power to stack charges even when they know they can't get them to stick and therefore getting 95% of the cases to be "PLEA DEALS" which means they are often arresting and imprisoning the WRONG PERSON.

 

[AZrailwhale]

How about we just not worry about what happens with that gun and simply give them 20 years for supplying guns…then work with gun stores and dealers to state at each gun purchase that the penalty for straw buying is 20 years……..that would dry up the market….

Then…..when you catch a a felon with an illegal gun…..30 years…..and if you actually use it in a crime, life in prison….

Thats how you reduce straw buying…,

However, then you will have to be willing to put grand mothers, mother’s sisters and baby mommas in prison, because a lot of criminals use those women to buy their guns…

Unfortunately it wouldn’t dry up the market. Criminal are criminals because they don’t think they will ever get caught. Nothing will deter them from committing a crime. All society can do is imprison or execute them so they can’t commit more crimes.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Let's game this out for a sec:

If the Dems are trying to pass laws, what ADDITIONAL laws should be passed against criminals with illegal firearms. I'm pretty sure they are 100% covered and everything about them is against some law. Whether it's being a crime-committing criminal or having an illegal gun.

So once that area is saturated and the gun crime still keeps happening.

What are they supposed to do?



Why not do something like SUPPORT a solution to the incredibly high gun homicide rate in the US? Rather than just blaming the Dems...why not vote in support of someone who actually is PROPOSING A BETTER SOLUTION?

Most homicides are committed by a small number of criminals. The solution to homicide is simple. Either lock up murderers for life or execute them. Once a murder gets caught, he will never murder anyone, except perhaps a fellow convict ever again.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Most homicides are committed by a small number of criminals. The solution to homicide is simple. Either lock up murderers for life or execute them. Once a murder gets caught, he will never murder anyone, except perhaps a fellow convict ever again.

The gop will never go for that. They refuse to do that now

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

Most homicides are committed by a small number of criminals. The solution to homicide is simple. Either lock up murderers for life or execute them. Once a murder gets caught, he will never murder anyone, except perhaps a fellow convict ever again.

America currently has the HIGHEST PRISON POPULATION ON EARTH. So your hypothesis does not hold water.

 

[M14 Shooter]

2A guy is beginning to separate out the good guns from the bad guns...

This might very well be the dumbest statement ever made on USMB.
Ever.