Gun show loophole a compromise

[bigrebnc1775]

WOW compromise something I thought I never would be suggesting to anti gun people, but here it goes.

Being that Gun shows are privately run and held on private property. Those who manage these gun shows and those who own the property could place restrictions on the property site too private sales. The gun community would police itself by doing this.
In other words,no private sales allowed.
Would this compromise be sufficient to end this argument?

Advisory: Pro Second Amendment Supporters think about your answer before you respond. My proposal doesn't take any rights away, nor does the government have any involvement.
1. No law will be created from doing this
2. It will be impimented only by the operators of the gun show
3 It will remove a argument from the anti gun crowd.
4. In my opinion is the only workable solution that anyone has offered.
5. You will not lose any rights

 

[bigrebnc1775]

WOW compromise something I thought I never would be suggesting to anti gun people, but here it goes.

Being that Gun shows are privately run and held on private property. Those who manage these gun shows and those who own the property could place restrictions on the property site too private sales. The gun community would police itself by doing this.
In other words,no private sales allowed.
Would this compromise be sufficient to end this argument?

So is this compromise acceptable to all?

 

[Mad Scientist]

Never compromise with the Gun Grabbing Enemies of Freedom. They'll only see that as a weakness in you.

 

[tyroneweaver]

no compromise.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Never compromise with the Gun Grabbing Enemies of Freedom. They'll only see that as a weakness in you.

True but actually that compromise wouldn't infringe own any personal right's because gun shows are privately run and most are held on private property. The compromise I suggested would also keep the government out of the mix.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

no compromise.

It wouldn't be infringing on any personal right's and it is an effective way of keeping the governmant from getting involved. We of the gun commuinty would police ourself and end this Fantasy gun show loophole

 

[OriginalShroom]

The problem I see is most guns show are held on public property such as fair grounds and public Auditoriums.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The problem I see is most guns show are held on public property such as fair grounds and public Auditoriums.

Yes some are, but they are still privately run.

 

[Redbone]

WOW compromise something I thought I never would be suggesting to anti gun people, but here it goes.

Being that Gun shows are privately run and held on private property. Those who manage these gun shows and those who own the property could place restrictions on the property site too private sales. The gun community would police itself by doing this.
In other words,no private sales allowed.
Would this compromise be sufficient to end this argument?

So is this compromise acceptable to all?

Totally unacceptable to me. I never compromise my principles. People want to screw up the 2nd Amendment for various reasons, none of which cut the mustard. Why compromise when you know you are right?
America was not founded for the purpose of self destruction by giving in to a tyrannical minority.
If we want to keep the Representative Republic we currently have we must stand firmly on principle and stop this eroding of our rights and the authority of our Constitution.

Lets remember that when it came time to stand on honor and principles the german elected officials did not and the world got the Nazi's as the reward. Always a price to pay for refusing to stand up for your principles. When not in a great hurry to win a war one may choose to do a few thousand small hits instead of one huge hit. That is the progressive agenda that has been being ran on us since the 1960's. Let the frog find out that the water is boiling when it is just too damn late.
I am not going to buy that dog myself. I took my stand back in the early 70's and have not budged an inch since.

 

[OriginalShroom]

The problem I see is most guns show are held on public property such as fair grounds and public Auditoriums.

Yes some are, but they are still privately run.

They may be privately run, but being held in a public venue, the gungrabbers would use that as a reason they get to determine what happens.

If they were held at a privately owned venue, that would be a different story.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

WOW compromise something I thought I never would be suggesting to anti gun people, but here it goes.

Being that Gun shows are privately run and held on private property. Those who manage these gun shows and those who own the property could place restrictions on the property site too private sales. The gun community would police itself by doing this.
In other words,no private sales allowed.
Would this compromise be sufficient to end this argument?

So is this compromise acceptable to all?

Totally unacceptable to me. I never compromise my principles. People want to screw up the 2nd Amendment for various reasons, none of which cut the mustard. Why compromise when you know you are right?
America was not founded for the purpose of self destruction by giving in to a tyrannical minority.
If we want to keep the Representative Republic we currently have we must stand firmly on principle and stop this eroding of our rights and the authority of our Constitution.

Your principles or your right isn't being compromised. If you want to privately sale your firearm take it off privately owned proprety. Look we're going to lose our second amendment right if we don't at least police ourself in the gun community, the gun show loophole will be the start. This compromise I suggested should be a workable solution for all too support.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The problem I see is most guns show are held on public property such as fair grounds and public Auditoriums.

Yes some are, but they are still privately run.

They may be privately run, but being held in a public venue, the gungrabbers would use that as a reason they get to determine what happens.

If they were held at a privately owned venue, that would be a different story.

Again the restriction would be made by the owners or managers of the gun show.
It is a workable solution that kills the gun grabbers argument and keeps the government out of the mix.

 

[Redbone]

So is this compromise acceptable to all?

Totally unacceptable to me. I never compromise my principles. People want to screw up the 2nd Amendment for various reasons, none of which cut the mustard. Why compromise when you know you are right?
America was not founded for the purpose of self destruction by giving in to a tyrannical minority.
If we want to keep the Representative Republic we currently have we must stand firmly on principle and stop this eroding of our rights and the authority of our Constitution.

Your principles or your right isn't being compromised. If you want to privately sale your firearm take it off privately owned proprety. Look we're going to lose our second amendment right if we don't at least police ourself in the gun community, the gun show loophole will be the start. This compromise I suggested should be a workable solution for all too support.

I will not lose my 2nd Amendment right . Not unless I choose to obey illegal regulations being imposed by a tyrannical government. I have made no such choice and firmly believe that I never will.

First they come and tell you how many dogs you can have. You simply agree. Next they come and tell you how you must house(maintain) your dogs. Then they come to tell you no more buying and selling dogs without their permission. Shortly after that you will find that they will come and tell you give your dogs to us!

Time to oppose them was way back when they came and told you how many dogs you could have. They had no such authority and never will unless you give it to them by not opposing , by refusing to fight if need be.

Yes, just as simple as that. America was founded by fighting , has survived by fighting and will continue to do so as long as its citizens fight for what is right.

 

[TruthSeeker56]

WOW compromise something I thought I never would be suggesting to anti gun people, but here it goes.

Being that Gun shows are privately run and held on private property. Those who manage these gun shows and those who own the property could place restrictions on the property site too private sales. The gun community would police itself by doing this.
In other words,no private sales allowed.
Would this compromise be sufficient to end this argument?

That's interesting. EVERY gun show I have ever attended was held in a public building, usually a hall or auditorium or other large building, and about 99% of the spaces were rented by legitimate gun dealers.

EVERY firearm I have ever purchased from a GUN SHOW has required me to do the paperwork for the federal (and state) background checks.

This whole "gun show loophole" thing is a MYTH.

PRIVATE SALES are the "loophole" that worries the anti-gun nuts.

 

[NYcarbineer]

No person under any circumstances should be able to sell a gun to a person not qualified to purchase a gun,

in the same way that no person is allowed to sell alcohol to a minor. Public, private, wherever, whatever.

Why would you want loopholes/exceptions?

 

[Mad Scientist]

No person under any circumstances should be able to sell a gun to a person not qualified to purchase a gun,

in the same way that no person is allowed to sell alcohol to a minor. Public, private, wherever, whatever.

Why would you want loopholes/exceptions?

Why would you trust the Government to determine who is "qualified" to own a firearm?

Governments are Instituted to PROTECT Rights, NOT take them away.

 

[NYcarbineer]

No person under any circumstances should be able to sell a gun to a person not qualified to purchase a gun,

in the same way that no person is allowed to sell alcohol to a minor. Public, private, wherever, whatever.

Why would you want loopholes/exceptions?

Why would you trust the Government to determine who is "qualified" to own a firearm?

Governments are Instituted to PROTECT Rights, NOT take them away.

How is my right to life better protected when government does not even attempt to keep guns out of the hands of convicted killers?

 

[Mad Scientist]

No person under any circumstances should be able to sell a gun to a person not qualified to purchase a gun,

in the same way that no person is allowed to sell alcohol to a minor. Public, private, wherever, whatever.

Why would you want loopholes/exceptions?

Why would you trust the Government to determine who is "qualified" to own a firearm?

Governments are Instituted to PROTECT Rights, NOT take them away.

How is my right to life better protected when government does not even attempt to keep guns out of the hands of convicted killers?

Felons aren't allowed to buy guns, that's the Law. That's the Government HAS to do and that's all the Government SHOULD do.

How about YOU be responsible for YOUR OWN Right to Life for a change?

You can either call 9-11 when you get in trouble and wait for the Police to respond and write the report of your dead body, or you can get a CCW or just Open Carry (Which will freak out the Cops who don't know the Law any better than YOU do)

Why the f*ck do people expect Gov't to do things better than they can do by themselves? The Gov't f*cks up EVERYTHING they touch and control!

Don't put your Life in their hands.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Totally unacceptable to me. I never compromise my principles. People want to screw up the 2nd Amendment for various reasons, none of which cut the mustard. Why compromise when you know you are right?
America was not founded for the purpose of self destruction by giving in to a tyrannical minority.
If we want to keep the Representative Republic we currently have we must stand firmly on principle and stop this eroding of our rights and the authority of our Constitution.

Your principles or your right isn't being compromised. If you want to privately sale your firearm take it off privately owned proprety. Look we're going to lose our second amendment right if we don't at least police ourself in the gun community, the gun show loophole will be the start. This compromise I suggested should be a workable solution for all too support.

I will not lose my 2nd Amendment right . Not unless I choose to obey illegal regulations being imposed by a tyrannical government. I have made no such choice and firmly believe that I never will.

First they come and tell you how many dogs you can have. You simply agree. Next they come and tell you how you must house(maintain) your dogs. Then they come to tell you no more buying and selling dogs without their permission. Shortly after that you will find that they will come and tell you give your dogs to us!

Time to oppose them was way back when they came and told you how many dogs you could have. They had no such authority and never will unless you give it to them by not opposing , by refusing to fight if need be.

Yes, just as simple as that. America was founded by fighting , has survived by fighting and will continue to do so as long as its citizens fight for what is right.

Calm down no one nor have I suggested any rights too be taken away. Gun shows are run by private party's You do as they say or you aren't allowed in. It's like this board we only have the freedom of speech the USMB rules allow.
If you want to privately sale a firearm take it off the proprety. No rights have been infringed.

 

[Redbone]

Why would you trust the Government to determine who is "qualified" to own a firearm?

Governments are Instituted to PROTECT Rights, NOT take them away.

How is my right to life better protected when government does not even attempt to keep guns out of the hands of convicted killers?

Felons aren't allowed to buy guns, that's the Law. That's the Government HAS to do and that's all the Government SHOULD do.

How about YOU be responsible for YOUR OWN Right to Life for a change?

You can either call 9-11 when you get in trouble and wait for the Police to respond and write the report of your dead body, or you can get a CCW or just Open Carry (Which will freak out the Cops who don't know the Law any better than YOU do)

Why the f*ck do people expect Gov't to do things better than they can do by themselves? The Gov't f*cks up EVERYTHING they touch and control!

Don't put your Life in their hands.

Some people dearly love their Nanny State masters. Why be a responsible man/adult when government tells them, let us make all the decisions? All it will cost you is a little bit of the freedom that do not need and often never use.
A sucker born every second fails to describe it. Sad and pathetic but it is reality.