Gun control and illegal immigrant criminal in one story.....

[Taz]

The gun the guy used was made by a legal manufacturer. So between it’s legal manufacture and this guy’s hands, there’s a breakdown. That’s what we need to fix.

Yes...he should have been in jail ...that was the break down. That is what we need to fix. Again, law abiding gun owners with guns, over the last 25 years...and we have had a decrease of 49% in the gun murder rate....you have no point. Gun violence over the last 25 years as more Americans own and carry guns...17.25 million Americans carrying guns for self defense......gun violence down 75%......75%......so you are wrong...again....law abiding people who own and carry guns does not increase the gun crime rate, the gun murder rate or the violent crime rate...


You policies that release violent criminals onto our streets over and over again are leading to death and violence...that is you, not guns...

How this guy got a legally manufactured gun is the problem.

He is a criminal...he stole it. Next.

The actual problem is that he should have been in custody at the time of his rampage....people like you let him go...allowing him to get the illegal gun, and to commit all of the following crimes.......

The problem is letting known, violent, repeat offenders out of jail, over and over again.

How it got from the legal manufacturer to an illegal's hands is the main problem. Not saying he shouldn't have been locked up. But the main problem is chain of custody.

Yes...you are right....the illegal alien criminal should have been in jail, not out in the public stealing the private property of law abiding citizens. How do you maintain the chain of custody when a criminal breaks into a home or private business and steals stuff? Hmmmmm...do you also say that the problem in a rape is why the woman allowed herself to be raped?

Gun sales rules are way too lax. So are storage rules. And bullets need to be tracked.

 

[Rustic]

More proof that there are too many guns floating around out there.

Na, not really

Not enough

 

[Rustic]

Yes...he should have been in jail ...that was the break down. That is what we need to fix. Again, law abiding gun owners with guns, over the last 25 years...and we have had a decrease of 49% in the gun murder rate....you have no point. Gun violence over the last 25 years as more Americans own and carry guns...17.25 million Americans carrying guns for self defense......gun violence down 75%......75%......so you are wrong...again....law abiding people who own and carry guns does not increase the gun crime rate, the gun murder rate or the violent crime rate...


You policies that release violent criminals onto our streets over and over again are leading to death and violence...that is you, not guns...

How this guy got a legally manufactured gun is the problem.

He is a criminal...he stole it. Next.

The actual problem is that he should have been in custody at the time of his rampage....people like you let him go...allowing him to get the illegal gun, and to commit all of the following crimes.......

The problem is letting known, violent, repeat offenders out of jail, over and over again.

How it got from the legal manufacturer to an illegal's hands is the main problem. Not saying he shouldn't have been locked up. But the main problem is chain of custody.

Yes...you are right....the illegal alien criminal should have been in jail, not out in the public stealing the private property of law abiding citizens. How do you maintain the chain of custody when a criminal breaks into a home or private business and steals stuff? Hmmmmm...do you also say that the problem in a rape is why the woman allowed herself to be raped?

Gun sales rules are way too lax. So are storage rules. And bullets need to be tracked.

Lol
Na, not really
You have no credibility on the subject so shut the **** up

 

[Taz]

How this guy got a legally manufactured gun is the problem.

He is a criminal...he stole it. Next.

The actual problem is that he should have been in custody at the time of his rampage....people like you let him go...allowing him to get the illegal gun, and to commit all of the following crimes.......

The problem is letting known, violent, repeat offenders out of jail, over and over again.

How it got from the legal manufacturer to an illegal's hands is the main problem. Not saying he shouldn't have been locked up. But the main problem is chain of custody.

Yes...you are right....the illegal alien criminal should have been in jail, not out in the public stealing the private property of law abiding citizens. How do you maintain the chain of custody when a criminal breaks into a home or private business and steals stuff? Hmmmmm...do you also say that the problem in a rape is why the woman allowed herself to be raped?

Gun sales rules are way too lax. So are storage rules. And bullets need to be tracked.

Lol
Na, not really
You have no credibility on the subject so shut the **** up

Get off the internet, you're making it dumber.

 

[Rustic]

He is a criminal...he stole it. Next.

The actual problem is that he should have been in custody at the time of his rampage....people like you let him go...allowing him to get the illegal gun, and to commit all of the following crimes.......

The problem is letting known, violent, repeat offenders out of jail, over and over again.

How it got from the legal manufacturer to an illegal's hands is the main problem. Not saying he shouldn't have been locked up. But the main problem is chain of custody.

Yes...you are right....the illegal alien criminal should have been in jail, not out in the public stealing the private property of law abiding citizens. How do you maintain the chain of custody when a criminal breaks into a home or private business and steals stuff? Hmmmmm...do you also say that the problem in a rape is why the woman allowed herself to be raped?

Gun sales rules are way too lax. So are storage rules. And bullets need to be tracked.

Lol
Na, not really
You have no credibility on the subject so shut the **** up

Get off the internet, you're making it dumber.

Lol
Says a control freak

 

[2aguy]

Yes...he should have been in jail ...that was the break down. That is what we need to fix. Again, law abiding gun owners with guns, over the last 25 years...and we have had a decrease of 49% in the gun murder rate....you have no point. Gun violence over the last 25 years as more Americans own and carry guns...17.25 million Americans carrying guns for self defense......gun violence down 75%......75%......so you are wrong...again....law abiding people who own and carry guns does not increase the gun crime rate, the gun murder rate or the violent crime rate...


You policies that release violent criminals onto our streets over and over again are leading to death and violence...that is you, not guns...

How this guy got a legally manufactured gun is the problem.

He is a criminal...he stole it. Next.

The actual problem is that he should have been in custody at the time of his rampage....people like you let him go...allowing him to get the illegal gun, and to commit all of the following crimes.......

The problem is letting known, violent, repeat offenders out of jail, over and over again.

How it got from the legal manufacturer to an illegal's hands is the main problem. Not saying he shouldn't have been locked up. But the main problem is chain of custody.

Yes...you are right....the illegal alien criminal should have been in jail, not out in the public stealing the private property of law abiding citizens. How do you maintain the chain of custody when a criminal breaks into a home or private business and steals stuff? Hmmmmm...do you also say that the problem in a rape is why the woman allowed herself to be raped?

Gun sales rules are way too lax. So are storage rules. And bullets need to be tracked.

No...criminals break the law.......the problem is that known, repeat gun offenders are let loose by democrat judges, politicians and prosecutors over and over again, and then they go on to commit gun crimes..

Again...you are saying that the rape victim should have done more to prevent the crime....that is what you are saying.

 

[Taz]

How this guy got a legally manufactured gun is the problem.

He is a criminal...he stole it. Next.

The actual problem is that he should have been in custody at the time of his rampage....people like you let him go...allowing him to get the illegal gun, and to commit all of the following crimes.......

The problem is letting known, violent, repeat offenders out of jail, over and over again.

How it got from the legal manufacturer to an illegal's hands is the main problem. Not saying he shouldn't have been locked up. But the main problem is chain of custody.

Yes...you are right....the illegal alien criminal should have been in jail, not out in the public stealing the private property of law abiding citizens. How do you maintain the chain of custody when a criminal breaks into a home or private business and steals stuff? Hmmmmm...do you also say that the problem in a rape is why the woman allowed herself to be raped?

Gun sales rules are way too lax. So are storage rules. And bullets need to be tracked.

No...criminals break the law.......the problem is that known, repeat gun offenders are let loose by democrat judges, politicians and prosecutors over and over again, and then they go on to commit gun crimes..

Again...you are saying that the rape victim should have done more to prevent the crime....that is what you are saying.

I'm saying that too many guns have flooded our country too easily, and now we have a HUGE problem on our hands that even incarceration can't solve.

 

[August West]

Violent crime has been falling globally because Americans own a lot of guns? Go sale your idiotic spam somewhere else clueless one.
Why violent crime is plummeting in the rich world
Violent crime in São Paulo has dropped dramatically. Is this why?
Where have all the burglars gone?
https://www.quora.com/Why-did-the-prevalence-of-violent-crime-drop-after-the-early-1990s-in-the-U-S

 

[2aguy]

He is a criminal...he stole it. Next.

The actual problem is that he should have been in custody at the time of his rampage....people like you let him go...allowing him to get the illegal gun, and to commit all of the following crimes.......

The problem is letting known, violent, repeat offenders out of jail, over and over again.

How it got from the legal manufacturer to an illegal's hands is the main problem. Not saying he shouldn't have been locked up. But the main problem is chain of custody.

Yes...you are right....the illegal alien criminal should have been in jail, not out in the public stealing the private property of law abiding citizens. How do you maintain the chain of custody when a criminal breaks into a home or private business and steals stuff? Hmmmmm...do you also say that the problem in a rape is why the woman allowed herself to be raped?

Gun sales rules are way too lax. So are storage rules. And bullets need to be tracked.

No...criminals break the law.......the problem is that known, repeat gun offenders are let loose by democrat judges, politicians and prosecutors over and over again, and then they go on to commit gun crimes..

Again...you are saying that the rape victim should have done more to prevent the crime....that is what you are saying.

I'm saying that too many guns have flooded our country too easily, and now we have a HUGE problem on our hands that even incarceration can't solve.

How is it a huge problem? As more Americans own and carry guns our gun murder rate went down 49%...how is that a problem? Our gun crime rate went down 75%...how is that a problem? Our violent crime rate went down 72%...how is that a problem?

The actual problem is that democrat politicians, judges and prosecutors keep letting repeat, violent, gun offenders out of jail over and over again..they are the ones committing our gun crime, not the law abiding gun owner who owns and carries a gun for protection.

In fact, on average, each year, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop these criminals from committing rape, robbery and murder and many times they stop mass public shooters.....and then the democrats let these criminals out of jail.....

You hate guns, so it blinds you to the actual problem....open your eyes....and stop supporting a political party that lets criminals out of jail so they can commit gun crimes.

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[2aguy]

He is a criminal...he stole it. Next.

The actual problem is that he should have been in custody at the time of his rampage....people like you let him go...allowing him to get the illegal gun, and to commit all of the following crimes.......

The problem is letting known, violent, repeat offenders out of jail, over and over again.

How it got from the legal manufacturer to an illegal's hands is the main problem. Not saying he shouldn't have been locked up. But the main problem is chain of custody.

Yes...you are right....the illegal alien criminal should have been in jail, not out in the public stealing the private property of law abiding citizens. How do you maintain the chain of custody when a criminal breaks into a home or private business and steals stuff? Hmmmmm...do you also say that the problem in a rape is why the woman allowed herself to be raped?

Gun sales rules are way too lax. So are storage rules. And bullets need to be tracked.

No...criminals break the law.......the problem is that known, repeat gun offenders are let loose by democrat judges, politicians and prosecutors over and over again, and then they go on to commit gun crimes..

Again...you are saying that the rape victim should have done more to prevent the crime....that is what you are saying.

I'm saying that too many guns have flooded our country too easily, and now we have a HUGE problem on our hands that even incarceration can't solve.

Actual research shows you have no idea what you are talking about.....law abiding people who not only own guns but carry them, do not increase the crime rate...so what is your problem? Why don't you focus your effort on keeping the known, repeat, violent gun offenders in jail......rather than disarming their victims?

The study...
https://www.journalacs.org/article/S1072-7515(18)32074-X/abstract

Results


During the study period, all states moved to adopt some form of concealed-carry legislation, with a trend toward less restrictive legislation. After adjusting for state and year, there was no significant association between shifts from restrictive to nonrestrictive carry legislation on violent crime and public health indicators. Adjusting further for poverty and unemployment did not significantly influence the results.

Conclusions
This study demonstrated no statistically significant association between the liberalization of state level firearm carry legislation over the last 30 years and the rates of homicides or other violent crime. Policy efforts aimed at injury prevention and the reduction of firearm-related violence should likely investigate other targets for potential intervention.

Landmark Study Finds Concealed Carry Does NOT Increase Violent Crime - The Truth About Guns

On October 22, Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership (DRGO) presented new concealed carry-related research to the Congress of the American College of Surgeons. The key takeaway from this research is that relaxing concealed carry laws has no effect on violent crime rates.

This paper, which was well received and is now available online (paywalled),is an important step toward clarifying contradictory findings in the existing research literature. Past research focused largely on concealed carriers as a group or on the number of concealed carry licenses among the population. However, increased interest in concealed carry is very possibly a response to rising crime rates, not a cause. For this reason, this DGRO-affiliated study measured the effects (or lack thereof) of legislation only, not the number of permits issued or the number of gun owners in the population.

Using data from a 30-year period (1986-2015), during which many U.S. states changed their concealed carry policies in favor of greater leniency, the researchers designed a Carry Restriction Scale that incorporated “no carry,” “may issue,” “shall issue,” and “unrestricted carry.” This allowed the leniency of concealed carry legislation to be meaningfully understood as a variable in their statistical analysis. Then, for good measure, they created a second, binary variable that also measured restrictiveness of concealed carry laws.

For each state and year during that 30-year period, the researchers amassed data on 14 different variables, including the Carry Restriction Scale variable. Among those, they included not only data on various violent crimes (rape, aggravated assault, homicide, etc.) but also data on unemployment and poverty rates, which are known to influence crime. Thanks to this dynamic approach, they were able to actually isolate the variable they were interested in.

Finally, applying a regression analysis that involved over 21,420 discrete data points and two different measures of concealed carry leniency, the researchers confidently confirmed their hypothesis: There is no association between state-level concealed carry laws and the rate of ANY violent crime.

 

[2aguy]

Violent crime has been falling globally because Americans own a lot of guns? Go sale your idiotic spam somewhere else clueless one.
Why violent crime is plummeting in the rich world
Violent crime in São Paulo has dropped dramatically. Is this why?
Where have all the burglars gone?
https://www.quora.com/Why-did-the-prevalence-of-violent-crime-drop-after-the-early-1990s-in-the-U-S

and your link points out that gun control did nothing to drop crime...and has no effect on criminal activity....as recent, updated research shows...

The study...
https://www.journalacs.org/article/S1072-7515(18)32074-X/abstract

Results


During the study period, all states moved to adopt some form of concealed-carry legislation, with a trend toward less restrictive legislation. After adjusting for state and year, there was no significant association between shifts from restrictive to nonrestrictive carry legislation on violent crime and public health indicators. Adjusting further for poverty and unemployment did not significantly influence the results.

Conclusions
This study demonstrated no statistically significant association between the liberalization of state level firearm carry legislation over the last 30 years and the rates of homicides or other violent crime. Policy efforts aimed at injury prevention and the reduction of firearm-related violence should likely investigate other targets for potential intervention.

Landmark Study Finds Concealed Carry Does NOT Increase Violent Crime - The Truth About Guns

On October 22, Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership (DRGO) presented new concealed carry-related research to the Congress of the American College of Surgeons. The key takeaway from this research is that relaxing concealed carry laws has no effect on violent crime rates.

This paper, which was well received and is now available online (paywalled),is an important step toward clarifying contradictory findings in the existing research literature. Past research focused largely on concealed carriers as a group or on the number of concealed carry licenses among the population. However, increased interest in concealed carry is very possibly a response to rising crime rates, not a cause. For this reason, this DGRO-affiliated study measured the effects (or lack thereof) of legislation only, not the number of permits issued or the number of gun owners in the population.

Using data from a 30-year period (1986-2015), during which many U.S. states changed their concealed carry policies in favor of greater leniency, the researchers designed a Carry Restriction Scale that incorporated “no carry,” “may issue,” “shall issue,” and “unrestricted carry.” This allowed the leniency of concealed carry legislation to be meaningfully understood as a variable in their statistical analysis. Then, for good measure, they created a second, binary variable that also measured restrictiveness of concealed carry laws.

For each state and year during that 30-year period, the researchers amassed data on 14 different variables, including the Carry Restriction Scale variable. Among those, they included not only data on various violent crimes (rape, aggravated assault, homicide, etc.) but also data on unemployment and poverty rates, which are known to influence crime. Thanks to this dynamic approach, they were able to actually isolate the variable they were interested in.

Finally, applying a regression analysis that involved over 21,420 discrete data points and two different measures of concealed carry leniency, the researchers confidently confirmed their hypothesis: There is no association between state-level concealed carry laws and the rate of ANY violent crime.

 

[blastoff]

The OP said:

This illegal immigrant should have been handed over to ICE for deportation..

Then the article said:

A man who had already been deported twice before went on a “reign of terror” this week in central California,

Is someone not familiar with what deportated means?

I agree.......when you have repeat illegal entries into our country, we need to lock them up for a long time, instead of just returning them to Mexico or the other countries they come from........

Then it cost the taxpayer more, why don't we just shoot them like rabid dogs?

Every now and then you have a cogent thought.

 

[Taz]

How it got from the legal manufacturer to an illegal's hands is the main problem. Not saying he shouldn't have been locked up. But the main problem is chain of custody.

Yes...you are right....the illegal alien criminal should have been in jail, not out in the public stealing the private property of law abiding citizens. How do you maintain the chain of custody when a criminal breaks into a home or private business and steals stuff? Hmmmmm...do you also say that the problem in a rape is why the woman allowed herself to be raped?

Gun sales rules are way too lax. So are storage rules. And bullets need to be tracked.

No...criminals break the law.......the problem is that known, repeat gun offenders are let loose by democrat judges, politicians and prosecutors over and over again, and then they go on to commit gun crimes..

Again...you are saying that the rape victim should have done more to prevent the crime....that is what you are saying.

I'm saying that too many guns have flooded our country too easily, and now we have a HUGE problem on our hands that even incarceration can't solve.

How is it a huge problem? As more Americans own and carry guns our gun murder rate went down 49%...how is that a problem? Our gun crime rate went down 75%...how is that a problem? Our violent crime rate went down 72%...how is that a problem?

The actual problem is that democrat politicians, judges and prosecutors keep letting repeat, violent, gun offenders out of jail over and over again..they are the ones committing our gun crime, not the law abiding gun owner who owns and carries a gun for protection.

In fact, on average, each year, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop these criminals from committing rape, robbery and murder and many times they stop mass public shooters.....and then the democrats let these criminals out of jail.....

You hate guns, so it blinds you to the actual problem....open your eyes....and stop supporting a political party that lets criminals out of jail so they can commit gun crimes.

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Americans have too many guns, and lose them too easily. And buying laws are too lax. For bullets as well, they should be tracked with serial numbers.

 

[2aguy]

Yes...you are right....the illegal alien criminal should have been in jail, not out in the public stealing the private property of law abiding citizens. How do you maintain the chain of custody when a criminal breaks into a home or private business and steals stuff? Hmmmmm...do you also say that the problem in a rape is why the woman allowed herself to be raped?

Gun sales rules are way too lax. So are storage rules. And bullets need to be tracked.

No...criminals break the law.......the problem is that known, repeat gun offenders are let loose by democrat judges, politicians and prosecutors over and over again, and then they go on to commit gun crimes..

Again...you are saying that the rape victim should have done more to prevent the crime....that is what you are saying.

I'm saying that too many guns have flooded our country too easily, and now we have a HUGE problem on our hands that even incarceration can't solve.

How is it a huge problem? As more Americans own and carry guns our gun murder rate went down 49%...how is that a problem? Our gun crime rate went down 75%...how is that a problem? Our violent crime rate went down 72%...how is that a problem?

The actual problem is that democrat politicians, judges and prosecutors keep letting repeat, violent, gun offenders out of jail over and over again..they are the ones committing our gun crime, not the law abiding gun owner who owns and carries a gun for protection.

In fact, on average, each year, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop these criminals from committing rape, robbery and murder and many times they stop mass public shooters.....and then the democrats let these criminals out of jail.....

You hate guns, so it blinds you to the actual problem....open your eyes....and stop supporting a political party that lets criminals out of jail so they can commit gun crimes.

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Americans have too many guns, and lose them too easily. And buying laws are too lax. For bullets as well, they should be tracked with serial numbers.

And nothing you posted is true...as you can see, law abiding people are not increasing gun crime...the people you support, the democrat party, are letting the gun criminals out of jail....you are the problem, not guns, not law abiding gun owners.....you support the early release policies of the democrats for known, violent, gun offenders, the ones who actually steal the guns.....and you let them out.....you are the problem.

 

[Taz]

Gun sales rules are way too lax. So are storage rules. And bullets need to be tracked.

No...criminals break the law.......the problem is that known, repeat gun offenders are let loose by democrat judges, politicians and prosecutors over and over again, and then they go on to commit gun crimes..

Again...you are saying that the rape victim should have done more to prevent the crime....that is what you are saying.

I'm saying that too many guns have flooded our country too easily, and now we have a HUGE problem on our hands that even incarceration can't solve.

How is it a huge problem? As more Americans own and carry guns our gun murder rate went down 49%...how is that a problem? Our gun crime rate went down 75%...how is that a problem? Our violent crime rate went down 72%...how is that a problem?

The actual problem is that democrat politicians, judges and prosecutors keep letting repeat, violent, gun offenders out of jail over and over again..they are the ones committing our gun crime, not the law abiding gun owner who owns and carries a gun for protection.

In fact, on average, each year, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop these criminals from committing rape, robbery and murder and many times they stop mass public shooters.....and then the democrats let these criminals out of jail.....

You hate guns, so it blinds you to the actual problem....open your eyes....and stop supporting a political party that lets criminals out of jail so they can commit gun crimes.

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Americans have too many guns, and lose them too easily. And buying laws are too lax. For bullets as well, they should be tracked with serial numbers.

And nothing you posted is true...as you can see, law abiding people are not increasing gun crime...the people you support, the democrat party, are letting the gun criminals out of jail....you are the problem, not guns, not law abiding gun owners.....you support the early release policies of the democrats for known, violent, gun offenders, the ones who actually steal the guns.....and you let them out.....you are the problem.

Law abiding doofuses are loosing their guns by the bucket full. That and lax laws.

 

[2aguy]

No...criminals break the law.......the problem is that known, repeat gun offenders are let loose by democrat judges, politicians and prosecutors over and over again, and then they go on to commit gun crimes..

Again...you are saying that the rape victim should have done more to prevent the crime....that is what you are saying.

I'm saying that too many guns have flooded our country too easily, and now we have a HUGE problem on our hands that even incarceration can't solve.

How is it a huge problem? As more Americans own and carry guns our gun murder rate went down 49%...how is that a problem? Our gun crime rate went down 75%...how is that a problem? Our violent crime rate went down 72%...how is that a problem?

The actual problem is that democrat politicians, judges and prosecutors keep letting repeat, violent, gun offenders out of jail over and over again..they are the ones committing our gun crime, not the law abiding gun owner who owns and carries a gun for protection.

In fact, on average, each year, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop these criminals from committing rape, robbery and murder and many times they stop mass public shooters.....and then the democrats let these criminals out of jail.....

You hate guns, so it blinds you to the actual problem....open your eyes....and stop supporting a political party that lets criminals out of jail so they can commit gun crimes.

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Americans have too many guns, and lose them too easily. And buying laws are too lax. For bullets as well, they should be tracked with serial numbers.

And nothing you posted is true...as you can see, law abiding people are not increasing gun crime...the people you support, the democrat party, are letting the gun criminals out of jail....you are the problem, not guns, not law abiding gun owners.....you support the early release policies of the democrats for known, violent, gun offenders, the ones who actually steal the guns.....and you let them out.....you are the problem.

Law abiding doofuses are loosing their guns by the bucket full. That and lax laws.

No.... criminals are breaking into their homes and stealing property......

You are the one who would say that the only reason women are being raped is they aren't fighting back hard enough......