Gun control and illegal immigrant criminal in one story.....

[2aguy]

This illegal immigrant should have been handed over to ICE for deportation...but democrats decided that it is better to protect criminal aliens than it is to enforce our laws....giving them superior status in our criminal justice system.....and causing death and destruction that they will never know, as they live in protected enclaves in democrat controlled cities...

There is video at the link of the shootout between the illegal alien criminal with his illegal gun and the police.......so much for California Sanctuary laws and their gun control laws...neither work....



Released thanks to California's sanctuary state law, man went on 'reign of terror' two days later (Update: Shootout video)

A man who had already been deported twice before went on a “reign of terror” this week in central California, one that included murder, attempted murder, robbery, carjacking, and a high-speed chase going the wrong way on the highway. All of that could have been prevented if local sheriff’s had been allowed to turn Gustavo Garcia over to ICE just two days before his rampage, but a new state sanctuary law prevented that.

Garcia was arrested last week on a misdemeanor charge of being under the influence of a controlled substance. When Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) saw that Garcia was under arrest they asked the police to turn him over. From the Visalia Times-Delta:

Before Garcia’s release, ICE officials alerted deputies that Garcia was a criminal with a violent past who had been deported once in 2004 and again in 2014. Garcia served 27 months in a federal prison between deportations for illegally reentering the country.

ICE agents issued an immigration hold against Garcia on Friday, following his arrest. The hold was not honored, however, and Garcia was released later that day, unbeknownst to ICE.

In the past, local sheriffs would have been allowed to turn Garcia directly over to ICE for deportation. But thanks to a new sanctuary state law, sheriffs were required to release him last Friday without notifying ICE. The next day, Garcia was wandering around the local Walmart asking strangers to buy him bullets. He couldn’t purchase them on his own because of his long criminal record. After he was turned down by at least one wary shopper, Garcia stole 300 rounds.

Then on Sunday afternoon, less than 48-hours after his release from jail, Garcia went on a crime spree. Fox News reports how the
Garcia’s rampage started at around 1 p.m. Sunday when he shot a farm worker who was in the middle of unpacking fruit in Exeter. The farm worker was expected to recover.

Moments later, Garcia robbed a convenience store with surveillance footage showing Garcia firing shots at the ceiling and demanding more than $2,000 in cash, according to the Fresno Bee. Police believe the shooting of the farm worker was meant to be a distraction for the robbery.


At 7:30 p.m., Garcia shot a Motel 6 guest in the arm and chest in Tulare, police said. Her wounds weren’t considered to be life-threatening…

At around 1:30 a.m. Monday, Garcia shot up a Shell gas station near Pixley and then killed Rocky Paul Jones, 51, about an hour later outside an Arco AMPM in Visalia, police Chief Jason Salazar said…

He then fired shots from the backyard of his ex-girlfriend’s Visalia home as she and her children were inside. Police said the girlfriend and her children escaped unscathed.

 

[gipper]

The D Party lost it’s base, when it screwed the working class. So, they need a new base.

 

[2aguy]

The D Party lost it’s base, when it screwed the working class. So, they need a new base.

They are essentially looking to re create feudalism.....where they are at the top, and the rest of the population are serfs.....

 

[Taz]

More proof that there are too many guns floating around out there.

 

[2aguy]

More proof that there are too many guns floating around out there.

No, as the actual facts show......as more Americans own and carry guns, over the last 25 years, our gun murder rate went down 49%....how do you explain that? As more Americans own and carry guns over the last 25 years, our gun crime rate went down 75%.....how do you explain that? As more Americans own and carry guns over the last 25 years, our violent crime rate went down 72%.....how do you explain that?

You can't.....what you believe about guns is completely wrong.

The failure here, as it always is....? The government released a violent criminal back into the community...that is the only reason our gun crime rate is as high as it currently is.....even with the decrease as more law abiding American carry and own guns.

Why do you people think that law abiding people who own guns, carry guns, but don't use them for crime, cause more crime? That makes no sense....

Then, when the democrat party keeps releasing known, violent gun criminals into our communities....over and over again, who then go on to use illegal guns for crime.....you keep supporting them while attacking gun owners....how does that make any sense?

You are the problem, not guns.

 

[Moonglow]

The OP said:

This illegal immigrant should have been handed over to ICE for deportation..

Then the article said:

A man who had already been deported twice before went on a “reign of terror” this week in central California,

Is someone not familiar with what deportated means?

 

[Moonglow]

The D Party lost it’s base, when it screwed the working class. So, they need a new base.

Why of course, the illegals work for the repubs and vote for the dems, yeah that's the ticket.

 

[2aguy]

The OP said:

This illegal immigrant should have been handed over to ICE for deportation..

Then the article said:

A man who had already been deported twice before went on a “reign of terror” this week in central California,

Is someone not familiar with what deportated means?

I agree.......when you have repeat illegal entries into our country, we need to lock them up for a long time, instead of just returning them to Mexico or the other countries they come from........

 

[2aguy]

The D Party lost it’s base, when it screwed the working class. So, they need a new base.

Why of course, the illegals work for the repubs and vote for the dems, yeah that's the ticket.

Yes....the Republican party is the stupid party, the democrat is the evil party...we get it.....

 

[Moonglow]

The OP said:

This illegal immigrant should have been handed over to ICE for deportation..

Then the article said:

A man who had already been deported twice before went on a “reign of terror” this week in central California,

Is someone not familiar with what deportated means?

I agree.......when you have repeat illegal entries into our country, we need to lock them up for a long time, instead of just returning them to Mexico or the other countries they come from........

Then it cost the taxpayer more, why don't we just shoot them like rabid dogs?

 

[Moonglow]

The D Party lost it’s base, when it screwed the working class. So, they need a new base.

Why of course, the illegals work for the repubs and vote for the dems, yeah that's the ticket.

Yes....the Republican party is the stupid party, the democrat is the evil party...we get it.....

They are both complicit and both should get the blame, especially for the laws they created to make this mess all possible.

 

[Taz]

More proof that there are too many guns floating around out there.

No, as the actual facts show......as more Americans own and carry guns, over the last 25 years, our gun murder rate went down 49%....how do you explain that? As more Americans own and carry guns over the last 25 years, our gun crime rate went down 75%.....how do you explain that? As more Americans own and carry guns over the last 25 years, our violent crime rate went down 72%.....how do you explain that?

You can't.....what you believe about guns is completely wrong.

The failure here, as it always is....? The government released a violent criminal back into the community...that is the only reason our gun crime rate is as high as it currently is.....even with the decrease as more law abiding American carry and own guns.

Why do you people think that law abiding people who own guns, carry guns, but don't use them for crime, cause more crime? That makes no sense....

Then, when the democrat party keeps releasing known, violent gun criminals into our communities....over and over again, who then go on to use illegal guns for crime.....you keep supporting them while attacking gun owners....how does that make any sense?

You are the problem, not guns.

The gun the guy used was made by a legal manufacturer. So between it’s legal manufacture and this guy’s hands, there’s a breakdown. That’s what we need to fix.

 

[2aguy]

The OP said:

This illegal immigrant should have been handed over to ICE for deportation..

Then the article said:

A man who had already been deported twice before went on a “reign of terror” this week in central California,

Is someone not familiar with what deportated means?

I agree.......when you have repeat illegal entries into our country, we need to lock them up for a long time, instead of just returning them to Mexico or the other countries they come from........

Then it cost the taxpayer more, why don't we just shoot them like rabid dogs?

It cost the victims a lot more.....they are not rabid dogs.

 

[Moonglow]

The OP said:

This illegal immigrant should have been handed over to ICE for deportation..

Then the article said:

A man who had already been deported twice before went on a “reign of terror” this week in central California,

Is someone not familiar with what deportated means?

I agree.......when you have repeat illegal entries into our country, we need to lock them up for a long time, instead of just returning them to Mexico or the other countries they come from........

Then it cost the taxpayer more, why don't we just shoot them like rabid dogs?

It cost the victims a lot more.....they are not rabid dogs.

Surely you know it was God's will..

 

[2aguy]

More proof that there are too many guns floating around out there.

No, as the actual facts show......as more Americans own and carry guns, over the last 25 years, our gun murder rate went down 49%....how do you explain that? As more Americans own and carry guns over the last 25 years, our gun crime rate went down 75%.....how do you explain that? As more Americans own and carry guns over the last 25 years, our violent crime rate went down 72%.....how do you explain that?

You can't.....what you believe about guns is completely wrong.

The failure here, as it always is....? The government released a violent criminal back into the community...that is the only reason our gun crime rate is as high as it currently is.....even with the decrease as more law abiding American carry and own guns.

Why do you people think that law abiding people who own guns, carry guns, but don't use them for crime, cause more crime? That makes no sense....

Then, when the democrat party keeps releasing known, violent gun criminals into our communities....over and over again, who then go on to use illegal guns for crime.....you keep supporting them while attacking gun owners....how does that make any sense?

You are the problem, not guns.

The gun the guy used was made by a legal manufacturer. So between it’s legal manufacture and this guy’s hands, there’s a breakdown. That’s what we need to fix.

Yes...he should have been in jail ...that was the break down. That is what we need to fix. Again, law abiding gun owners with guns, over the last 25 years...and we have had a decrease of 49% in the gun murder rate....you have no point. Gun violence over the last 25 years as more Americans own and carry guns...17.25 million Americans carrying guns for self defense......gun violence down 75%......75%......so you are wrong...again....law abiding people who own and carry guns does not increase the gun crime rate, the gun murder rate or the violent crime rate...


You policies that release violent criminals onto our streets over and over again are leading to death and violence...that is you, not guns...

 

[2aguy]

The OP said:

This illegal immigrant should have been handed over to ICE for deportation..

Then the article said:

A man who had already been deported twice before went on a “reign of terror” this week in central California,

Is someone not familiar with what deportated means?

I agree.......when you have repeat illegal entries into our country, we need to lock them up for a long time, instead of just returning them to Mexico or the other countries they come from........

Then it cost the taxpayer more, why don't we just shoot them like rabid dogs?

It cost the victims a lot more.....they are not rabid dogs.

Surely you know it was God's will..

How is it God's will...he laid down the law...though shall not steal, though shalt do no murder......hard to see how it is his fault since he said those things are prohibited.

 

[Taz]

More proof that there are too many guns floating around out there.

No, as the actual facts show......as more Americans own and carry guns, over the last 25 years, our gun murder rate went down 49%....how do you explain that? As more Americans own and carry guns over the last 25 years, our gun crime rate went down 75%.....how do you explain that? As more Americans own and carry guns over the last 25 years, our violent crime rate went down 72%.....how do you explain that?

You can't.....what you believe about guns is completely wrong.

The failure here, as it always is....? The government released a violent criminal back into the community...that is the only reason our gun crime rate is as high as it currently is.....even with the decrease as more law abiding American carry and own guns.

Why do you people think that law abiding people who own guns, carry guns, but don't use them for crime, cause more crime? That makes no sense....

Then, when the democrat party keeps releasing known, violent gun criminals into our communities....over and over again, who then go on to use illegal guns for crime.....you keep supporting them while attacking gun owners....how does that make any sense?

You are the problem, not guns.

The gun the guy used was made by a legal manufacturer. So between it’s legal manufacture and this guy’s hands, there’s a breakdown. That’s what we need to fix.

Yes...he should have been in jail ...that was the break down. That is what we need to fix. Again, law abiding gun owners with guns, over the last 25 years...and we have had a decrease of 49% in the gun murder rate....you have no point. Gun violence over the last 25 years as more Americans own and carry guns...17.25 million Americans carrying guns for self defense......gun violence down 75%......75%......so you are wrong...again....law abiding people who own and carry guns does not increase the gun crime rate, the gun murder rate or the violent crime rate...


You policies that release violent criminals onto our streets over and over again are leading to death and violence...that is you, not guns...

How this guy got a legally manufactured gun is the problem.

 

[2aguy]

More proof that there are too many guns floating around out there.

No, as the actual facts show......as more Americans own and carry guns, over the last 25 years, our gun murder rate went down 49%....how do you explain that? As more Americans own and carry guns over the last 25 years, our gun crime rate went down 75%.....how do you explain that? As more Americans own and carry guns over the last 25 years, our violent crime rate went down 72%.....how do you explain that?

You can't.....what you believe about guns is completely wrong.

The failure here, as it always is....? The government released a violent criminal back into the community...that is the only reason our gun crime rate is as high as it currently is.....even with the decrease as more law abiding American carry and own guns.

Why do you people think that law abiding people who own guns, carry guns, but don't use them for crime, cause more crime? That makes no sense....

Then, when the democrat party keeps releasing known, violent gun criminals into our communities....over and over again, who then go on to use illegal guns for crime.....you keep supporting them while attacking gun owners....how does that make any sense?

You are the problem, not guns.

The gun the guy used was made by a legal manufacturer. So between it’s legal manufacture and this guy’s hands, there’s a breakdown. That’s what we need to fix.

Yes...he should have been in jail ...that was the break down. That is what we need to fix. Again, law abiding gun owners with guns, over the last 25 years...and we have had a decrease of 49% in the gun murder rate....you have no point. Gun violence over the last 25 years as more Americans own and carry guns...17.25 million Americans carrying guns for self defense......gun violence down 75%......75%......so you are wrong...again....law abiding people who own and carry guns does not increase the gun crime rate, the gun murder rate or the violent crime rate...


You policies that release violent criminals onto our streets over and over again are leading to death and violence...that is you, not guns...

How this guy got a legally manufactured gun is the problem.

He is a criminal...he stole it. Next.

The actual problem is that he should have been in custody at the time of his rampage....people like you let him go...allowing him to get the illegal gun, and to commit all of the following crimes.......

The problem is letting known, violent, repeat offenders out of jail, over and over again.

 

[Taz]

More proof that there are too many guns floating around out there.

No, as the actual facts show......as more Americans own and carry guns, over the last 25 years, our gun murder rate went down 49%....how do you explain that? As more Americans own and carry guns over the last 25 years, our gun crime rate went down 75%.....how do you explain that? As more Americans own and carry guns over the last 25 years, our violent crime rate went down 72%.....how do you explain that?

You can't.....what you believe about guns is completely wrong.

The failure here, as it always is....? The government released a violent criminal back into the community...that is the only reason our gun crime rate is as high as it currently is.....even with the decrease as more law abiding American carry and own guns.

Why do you people think that law abiding people who own guns, carry guns, but don't use them for crime, cause more crime? That makes no sense....

Then, when the democrat party keeps releasing known, violent gun criminals into our communities....over and over again, who then go on to use illegal guns for crime.....you keep supporting them while attacking gun owners....how does that make any sense?

You are the problem, not guns.

The gun the guy used was made by a legal manufacturer. So between it’s legal manufacture and this guy’s hands, there’s a breakdown. That’s what we need to fix.

Yes...he should have been in jail ...that was the break down. That is what we need to fix. Again, law abiding gun owners with guns, over the last 25 years...and we have had a decrease of 49% in the gun murder rate....you have no point. Gun violence over the last 25 years as more Americans own and carry guns...17.25 million Americans carrying guns for self defense......gun violence down 75%......75%......so you are wrong...again....law abiding people who own and carry guns does not increase the gun crime rate, the gun murder rate or the violent crime rate...


You policies that release violent criminals onto our streets over and over again are leading to death and violence...that is you, not guns...

How this guy got a legally manufactured gun is the problem.

He is a criminal...he stole it. Next.

The actual problem is that he should have been in custody at the time of his rampage....people like you let him go...allowing him to get the illegal gun, and to commit all of the following crimes.......

The problem is letting known, violent, repeat offenders out of jail, over and over again.

How it got from the legal manufacturer to an illegal's hands is the main problem. Not saying he shouldn't have been locked up. But the main problem is chain of custody.

 

[2aguy]

No, as the actual facts show......as more Americans own and carry guns, over the last 25 years, our gun murder rate went down 49%....how do you explain that? As more Americans own and carry guns over the last 25 years, our gun crime rate went down 75%.....how do you explain that? As more Americans own and carry guns over the last 25 years, our violent crime rate went down 72%.....how do you explain that?

You can't.....what you believe about guns is completely wrong.

The failure here, as it always is....? The government released a violent criminal back into the community...that is the only reason our gun crime rate is as high as it currently is.....even with the decrease as more law abiding American carry and own guns.

Why do you people think that law abiding people who own guns, carry guns, but don't use them for crime, cause more crime? That makes no sense....

Then, when the democrat party keeps releasing known, violent gun criminals into our communities....over and over again, who then go on to use illegal guns for crime.....you keep supporting them while attacking gun owners....how does that make any sense?

You are the problem, not guns.

The gun the guy used was made by a legal manufacturer. So between it’s legal manufacture and this guy’s hands, there’s a breakdown. That’s what we need to fix.

Yes...he should have been in jail ...that was the break down. That is what we need to fix. Again, law abiding gun owners with guns, over the last 25 years...and we have had a decrease of 49% in the gun murder rate....you have no point. Gun violence over the last 25 years as more Americans own and carry guns...17.25 million Americans carrying guns for self defense......gun violence down 75%......75%......so you are wrong...again....law abiding people who own and carry guns does not increase the gun crime rate, the gun murder rate or the violent crime rate...


You policies that release violent criminals onto our streets over and over again are leading to death and violence...that is you, not guns...

How this guy got a legally manufactured gun is the problem.

He is a criminal...he stole it. Next.

The actual problem is that he should have been in custody at the time of his rampage....people like you let him go...allowing him to get the illegal gun, and to commit all of the following crimes.......

The problem is letting known, violent, repeat offenders out of jail, over and over again.

How it got from the legal manufacturer to an illegal's hands is the main problem. Not saying he shouldn't have been locked up. But the main problem is chain of custody.

Yes...you are right....the illegal alien criminal should have been in jail, not out in the public stealing the private property of law abiding citizens. How do you maintain the chain of custody when a criminal breaks into a home or private business and steals stuff? Hmmmmm...do you also say that the problem in a rape is why the woman allowed herself to be raped?