Growing Arab Support For Israel

Just like a leftist response even though you say that you aren't.

/done
See me whatever You see, I'm but meumah,
but that is a curious reaction to the basic knowledge of the Temple.

My reaction is to your answer to my question of which political party do you support.

I was and am not concerned with other deviations from that question.

Your response is not at all curious as it's the response of other reformers I've heard.... reforming.
 
Many reformers have reformed circumcision out of the covenant.
 
Good news. LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!
Good grief! It's only September. Is it Christmas shopping season already with all the peace on earth and good will to men? Not so fast on the gun grab there, fuckers.

Do the Arabs really offer any true support for Israel? Or is it the for the 'establishment' or 'district' of corrupt politicians of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem voted into office by 'oppressed' liberal Palestinians?
 
Palestinians (Muslims) aside, regardless of what deal is brokered with the UAE or any other Islamic nation, the main problem remains, ultimately they still want Islam to rule what we call Israel, as all Israelis are considered "occupiers" of Islamic land. The reason:
Once Muslims conquer a territory that was held by "infidels," that territory they conquered from its original inhabitants, is "forever" considered Islamic land and should the people they conquered it from, happen to get their land back, they are considered "occupiers" of Islamic land. Islamists considers Islam and its followers to to be superior to all other peoples and must be converted, ruled over, or killed and those ruled over, are considered "second-class" peoples who must obey Sharia Law, or suffer the consequences. It is a religion that is completely incompatible with the concept of freedom and free will and any Muslim who denies this it asked by an infidel is allowed to and will use taqiyya (deception) to protect the religion.
 
Many reformers have reformed circumcision out of the covenant.

Is THAT what You want to discuss?

That statement in itself is ridiculous, as if they made water dry,
the water is still wet and the circumcision is eternally part of the covenant.

I think You project quiet much on Your Israeli brother,
that's maybe ok to get it out there between brothers, but not for a tachles discussion.
 
Many reformers have reformed circumcision out of the covenant.

Is THAT what You want to discuss?

That statement in itself is ridiculous, as if they made water dry,
the water is still wet and the circumcision is eternally part of the covenant.

I think You project quiet much on Your Israeli brother,
that's maybe ok to get it out there between brothers, but not for a tachles discussion.

It's the strategy of reform that I speak to and why I asked the question that remains unanswered.
 
Palestinians (Muslims) aside, regardless of what deal is brokered with the UAE or any other Islamic nation, the main problem remains, ultimately they still want Islam to rule what we call Israel, as all Israelis are considered "occupiers" of Islamic land. The reason:
Once Muslims conquer a territory that was held by "infidels," that territory they conquered from its original inhabitants, is "forever" considered Islamic land and should the people they conquered it from, happen to get their land back, they are considered "occupiers" of Islamic land. Islamists considers Islam and its followers to to be superior to all other peoples and must be converted, ruled over, or killed and those ruled over, are considered "second-class" peoples who must obey Sharia Law, or suffer the consequences. It is a religion that is completely incompatible with the concept of freedom and free will and any Muslim who denies this it asked by an infidel is allowed to and will use taqiyya (deception) to protect the religion.
Nu, and what prevents that whale to swallow that guppie?
 
Many reformers have reformed circumcision out of the covenant.

Is THAT what You want to discuss?

That statement in itself is ridiculous, as if they made water dry,
the water is still wet and the circumcision is eternally part of the covenant.

I think You project quiet much on Your Israeli brother,
that's maybe ok to get it out there between brothers, but not for a tachles discussion.

It's the strategy of reform that I speak to and why I asked the question that remains unanswered.

Tachles, talk tachles.
I'm Israeli, don't like formalities.

Like a rock drummer doesn't hear too much quiet noise, professionally of course.
 
Palestinians (Muslims) aside, regardless of what deal is brokered with the UAE or any other Islamic nation, the main problem remains, ultimately they still want Islam to rule what we call Israel, as all Israelis are considered "occupiers" of Islamic land. The reason:
Once Muslims conquer a territory that was held by "infidels," that territory they conquered from its original inhabitants, is "forever" considered Islamic land and should the people they conquered it from, happen to get their land back, they are considered "occupiers" of Islamic land. Islamists considers Islam and its followers to to be superior to all other peoples and must be converted, ruled over, or killed and those ruled over, are considered "second-class" peoples who must obey Sharia Law, or suffer the consequences. It is a religion that is completely incompatible with the concept of freedom and free will and any Muslim who denies this it asked by an infidel is allowed to and will use taqiyya (deception) to protect the religion.
Nu, and what prevents that whale to swallow that guppie?
Rationale.
 
Palestinians (Muslims) aside, regardless of what deal is brokered with the UAE or any other Islamic nation, the main problem remains, ultimately they still want Islam to rule what we call Israel, as all Israelis are considered "occupiers" of Islamic land. The reason:
Once Muslims conquer a territory that was held by "infidels," that territory they conquered from its original inhabitants, is "forever" considered Islamic land and should the people they conquered it from, happen to get their land back, they are considered "occupiers" of Islamic land. Islamists considers Islam and its followers to to be superior to all other peoples and must be converted, ruled over, or killed and those ruled over, are considered "second-class" peoples who must obey Sharia Law, or suffer the consequences. It is a religion that is completely incompatible with the concept of freedom and free will and any Muslim who denies this it asked by an infidel is allowed to and will use taqiyya (deception) to protect the religion.
Nu, and what prevents that whale to swallow that Guppie?
Nu??? I'm merely pointing out that any deal with Islam is to be monitored with a high degree of scrutiny. I believe that any contracts/terms made with non-Muslims can run for a period of ten years and after that, well, be very wary.
 
Palestinians (Muslims) aside, regardless of what deal is brokered with the UAE or any other Islamic nation, the main problem remains, ultimately they still want Islam to rule what we call Israel, as all Israelis are considered "occupiers" of Islamic land. The reason:
Once Muslims conquer a territory that was held by "infidels," that territory they conquered from its original inhabitants, is "forever" considered Islamic land and should the people they conquered it from, happen to get their land back, they are considered "occupiers" of Islamic land. Islamists considers Islam and its followers to to be superior to all other peoples and must be converted, ruled over, or killed and those ruled over, are considered "second-class" peoples who must obey Sharia Law, or suffer the consequences. It is a religion that is completely incompatible with the concept of freedom and free will and any Muslim who denies this it asked by an infidel is allowed to and will use taqiyya (deception) to protect the religion.
Nu, and what prevents that whale to swallow that guppie?
Rationale.

Reform middle east.
Ishmael will eventually do Tshuvah.

We can only do what we can,
and the mere excitement that HaShem shows us already in this generation.
 
We can only do what we can,
and the mere excitement that HaShem shows us already in this generation.

imho

G-d hears.

Q: How does one make G-d laugh?
A: Tell Him your plans.
 
Palestinians (Muslims) aside, regardless of what deal is brokered with the UAE or any other Islamic nation, the main problem remains, ultimately they still want Islam to rule what we call Israel, as all Israelis are considered "occupiers" of Islamic land. The reason:
Once Muslims conquer a territory that was held by "infidels," that territory they conquered from its original inhabitants, is "forever" considered Islamic land and should the people they conquered it from, happen to get their land back, they are considered "occupiers" of Islamic land. Islamists considers Islam and its followers to to be superior to all other peoples and must be converted, ruled over, or killed and those ruled over, are considered "second-class" peoples who must obey Sharia Law, or suffer the consequences. It is a religion that is completely incompatible with the concept of freedom and free will and any Muslim who denies this it asked by an infidel is allowed to and will use taqiyya (deception) to protect the religion.
Nu, and what prevents that whale to swallow that Guppie?
Nu??? I'm merely pointing out that any deal with Islam is to be monitored with a high degree of scrutiny. I believe that any contracts/terms made with non-Muslims can run for a period of ten years and after that, well, be very wary.

Nine years, nine months and nine days..if remember correctly.

Anything new?

Along these 9 years, or less, we'll check and see if that was worth the effort.
The question rather - what do Arabs have to offer for peace with Israel?

There's an Arabic saying: "Can't give what you don't own".
 
We can only do what we can,
and the mere excitement that HaShem shows us already in this generation.

imho

G-d hears.

Q: How does one make G-d laugh?
A: Tell Him your plans.

Then don't make plans,
start with just the basics of what G-d decreed for Israel,
to live, build and inherit the land, and not leave it in any else hands.

Call it left right, socialist or capitalist,
but come and argue this with me here,
where it really matters, the future of the nation.
 
Palestinians (Muslims) aside, regardless of what deal is brokered with the UAE or any other Islamic nation, the main problem remains, ultimately they still want Islam to rule what we call Israel, as all Israelis are considered "occupiers" of Islamic land. The reason:
Once Muslims conquer a territory that was held by "infidels," that territory they conquered from its original inhabitants, is "forever" considered Islamic land and should the people they conquered it from, happen to get their land back, they are considered "occupiers" of Islamic land. Islamists considers Islam and its followers to to be superior to all other peoples and must be converted, ruled over, or killed and those ruled over, are considered "second-class" peoples who must obey Sharia Law, or suffer the consequences. It is a religion that is completely incompatible with the concept of freedom and free will and any Muslim who denies this it asked by an infidel is allowed to and will use taqiyya (deception) to protect the religion.
The worst punishment the Zionists could ever inflict upon the Palestinians would be to grant them their own self determination under their leadership of Abbas & Hamas. But then, sure would be nice for Israel not to be blamed for Palestinian stupidity causing their deaths.
 
We can only do what we can,
and the mere excitement that HaShem shows us already in this generation.

imho

G-d hears.

Q: How does one make G-d laugh?
A: Tell Him your plans.

Then don't make plans,
start with just the basics of what G-d decreed for Israel,
to live, build and inherit the land, and not leave it in any else hands.

Call it left right, socialist or capitalist,
but come and argue this with me here,
where it really matters, the future of the nation.

As G-d wills. All three books make it clear. In the end, regardless of man's machinations.

G-d wins.

And that's the win-win. The rest is white noise as to the path to hitting the mark.
 
We can only do what we can,
and the mere excitement that HaShem shows us already in this generation.

imho

G-d hears.

Q: How does one make G-d laugh?
A: Tell Him your plans.

Then don't make plans,
start with just the basics of what G-d decreed for Israel,
to live, build and inherit the land, and not leave it in any else hands.

Call it left right, socialist or capitalist,
but come and argue this with me here,
where it really matters, the future of the nation.

As G-d wills. All three books make it clear. In the end, regardless of man's machinations.

G-d wins.

And that's the win-win. The rest is white noise as to the path to hitting the mark.

That's an easy way to say "G-d should do it all"...certainly PM Netanyahu had to at least loose sleep some nights, pick up the phone and go places, EVEN actually with his own feet. His father Benzion Netanyahu Z"l didn't remain in America in spite socialists not leaving him place in Israeli academia, his son became the Prime Minister of Israel, working for all the these developments in the Israeli-Arab relations during the recent decade.
 
We can only do what we can,
and the mere excitement that HaShem shows us already in this generation.

imho

G-d hears.

Q: How does one make G-d laugh?
A: Tell Him your plans.

Then don't make plans,
start with just the basics of what G-d decreed for Israel,
to live, build and inherit the land, and not leave it in any else hands.

Call it left right, socialist or capitalist,
but come and argue this with me here,
where it really matters, the future of the nation.

As G-d wills. All three books make it clear. In the end, regardless of man's machinations.

G-d wins.

And that's the win-win. The rest is white noise as to the path to hitting the mark.

That's an easy way to say "G-d should do it all"...certainly PM Netanyahu had to at least loose sleep some nights, pick up the phone and go places, EVEN actually with his own feet. His father Benzion Netanyahu Z"l didn't remain in America in spite socialists not leaving him place in Israeli academia, his son became the Prime Minister of Israel, working for all the these developments in the Israeli-Arab relations during the recent decade.

It's a way of saying that in the end, the judgement is not ours to make, just to take. G-d wins. You don't seem to find that as exciting as man's fruits.

Do what you do.

Regardless, in the end, it will be as it is supposed to be and the path will be troublesome for some and less for others.

The infiltration is being met with force to repel the chaos. This is what's really important.
 
We can only do what we can,
and the mere excitement that HaShem shows us already in this generation.

imho

G-d hears.

Q: How does one make G-d laugh?
A: Tell Him your plans.

Then don't make plans,
start with just the basics of what G-d decreed for Israel,
to live, build and inherit the land, and not leave it in any else hands.

Call it left right, socialist or capitalist,
but come and argue this with me here,
where it really matters, the future of the nation.

As G-d wills. All three books make it clear. In the end, regardless of man's machinations.

G-d wins.

And that's the win-win. The rest is white noise as to the path to hitting the mark.

That's an easy way to say "G-d should do it all"...certainly PM Netanyahu had to at least loose sleep some nights, pick up the phone and go places, EVEN actually with his own feet. His father Benzion Netanyahu Z"l didn't remain in America in spite socialists not leaving him place in Israeli academia, his son became the Prime Minister of Israel, working for all the these developments in the Israeli-Arab relations during the recent decade.

It's a way of saying that in the end, the judgement is not ours to make, just to take. G-d wins. You don't seem to find that as exciting as man's fruits.

Do what you do.

Regardless, in the end, it will be as it is supposed to be and the path will be troublesome for some and less for others.

The infiltration is being met with force to repel the chaos. This is what's really important.

We are Jews, when wasn't it troublesome?
It's either troublesome and You get out there to do Your thing,
or it's troublesome and You stay in the shteitel running from attention.

HaShem gave us freedom of choice to do something useful.
12 tribes, 12 personal ways.
 

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