Greenland's ice sheet has melted during our current ice age. It could melt again

[jc456]

First you claim it wasn't answered. When reminded it has been answered 400 times, you want a summary.

Not by you, why can’t you just say it

 

[EMH]

Not by you, why can’t you just say it

Who OPed this thread??

Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...

What is an ICE AGE? Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice...

www.usmessageboard.com

Sick taxpayer funded liar....

 

[Crick]

Who OPed this thread??

Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...

What is an ICE AGE? Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice...

www.usmessageboard.com

Sick taxpayer funded liar....

Every dictionary of the English language tells us (as if we didn't already know for a certain-teed FACT) that you are a blithering idiot.

The only way even YOU think you can make a case is by making up your own definitions for common terms, by basing everything on the absolutely ultimate case of cherry-picked data and for lying and lying and lying and lying you antisemitic pigfuck idiot.

Im-PRESS-ive.

 

[EMH]

Every dictionary of the English language

helps you understand English, since you really speak HEBREW

Unfortunately, you and "dudmuck" use the same HEBREW to ENGLISH translation software, a software that does not properly define the term

CANES


LOL!!!

 

[Crick]

helps you understand English, since you really speak HEBREW

Unfortunately, you and "dudmuck" use the same HEBREW to ENGLISH translation software, a software that does not properly define the term

CANES


LOL!!!

Does ANYONE here think poster EMH has made ANY valid points ANYWHERE in the Environment forum?

ANYONE?

ANYONE?

 

[jc456]

Who OPed this thread??

Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...

What is an ICE AGE? Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice...

www.usmessageboard.com

Sick taxpayer funded liar....

you still haven't provided your summary of how the ice formed in the Arctic when it was once ice free?

 

[EMH]

Does ANYONE here think poster EMH has made ANY valid points ANYWHERE in the Environment forum?

ANYONE?

ANYONE?

Well, let's see if you can answer some basic climate questions...


1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?
3. If the oceans are "warming" why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s?
4. If the oceans are "rising" why can't we see one single photo of land sinking?
5. How did Co2 thaw North America and freeze Greenland at the same time?
6. If Earth has been experiencing an ongoing net ice melt, why has Surface Air Pressure been dropping the past 70 years?
7. Can you show us one single piece of land outside of 600 miles to a pole in ice age?
8. Can you show us one single piece of land inside of 600 miles to a pole not in ice age?

 

[EMH]

you still haven't provided your summary of how the ice formed in the Arctic when it was once ice free?

Over and over, the taxpayer funded "faux climate skeptic" will endlessly lie and repeat the same questions already answered.

THIS is from the link


So what causes an ICE AGE?


Land moving near the poles. When land gets to within - roughly- 600 miles of a pole, as Greenland just did, the annual snowfall ceases to fully melt in the summer, and then it starts to stack. Stack for a million or 2 years = Greenland. Stack for 40+ million years = Antarctica. Ice ages like North American Ice Age end when the land moves outside of the 600 miles to a pole barrier.

Greenland and Antarctica are ice ages. Earth Climate Change is 99% about where land is. If Earth had two polar oceans, it would have no ice (much warmer). If Earth had two polar continents, two "Antarcticas" it would have roughly twice the ice, oceans would be lower, there would be a thinner atmosphere with less humidity, and it would be colder...


Earth climate change is about ice. Ice controls sea level, temperature, atmospheric thickness, and humidity.

Ice is about where land is. 90% on Antarctica, 7% on Greenland today.

Land moves.

Not that hard.




You claim that is "not a summary." You are a liar. A sick liar. A treasonous liar.

 

[BackAgain]

Are they really just figuring out that the northern hemisphere fully deglaciated in the previous interglacial period? Really? This is news to them?

How long have I been telling you that the previous interglacial period was 2C warmer than today with 26 ft higher sea than today and 120 ppm less CO2 than today?

But but but, it’s all due to anthropogenic CO2.

Just read cricks posts. He will tell ya!

 

[EMH]

Are they really just figuring out that the northern hemisphere fully deglaciated in the previous interglacial period?

and precisely WHEN was this "previous interglacial period?"

 

[EMH]

the OP is completely WRONG

THERE IS ZERO EVIDENCE OF AN ICE MELT ON GREENLAND. GREENLAND's ICE AGE IS 1-2 MILLION YEARS OLD, and BEFORE THAT GREENLAND WAS FURTHER SOUTH AND THE CO2 FRAUD HAS ZERO, NONE, ZIP, NADA "EVIDENCE" that GREENLAND WAS EVER FROZEN PRIOR TO 2 million years ago, ZERO.

 

[BackAgain]

and precisely WHEN was this "previous interglacial period?"

9 pm on August 13, 10,976 BC.

 

[EMH]

9 pm on August 13, 10,976 BC.

Cool, since both Greenland and Antarctica printed brand new ice layers in that year, documented for us by the fact that

Greenland has 130k years of ice core data
Antarctica has 800k years of ice core data

(and neither ice core data set got halfway down)

and apparently during the "interglacial" both continent specific ice ages continued to manufacture ice layers, they GREW ICE during the "interglacial" which defines itself as a period when glaciers retreat, hence COMPLETELY SELF REFUTING...

 

[BackAgain]

the OP is completely WRONG

THERE IS ZERO EVIDENCE OF AN ICE MELT ON GREENLAND. GREENLAND's ICE AGE IS 1-2 MILLION YEARS OLD, and BEFORE THAT GREENLAND WAS FURTHER SOUTH AND THE CO2 FRAUD HAS ZERO, NONE, ZIP, NADA "EVIDENCE" that GREENLAND WAS EVER FROZEN PRIOR TO 2 million years ago, ZERO.

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/2015RG000482

A lengthy interesting read.

Not being at all trained in the field, I can’t claim to understand all of it. But I do see how they make use of proxy data to figure out the rough parameters of interglacial and interstitial periods.

I suspect many of you all might enjoy reviewing it.

 

[EMH]

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/2015RG000482

A lengthy interesting read.

Not being at all trained in the field, I can’t claim to understand all of it. But I do see how they make use of proxy data to figure out the rough parameters of interglacial and interstitial periods.

I suspect many of you all might enjoy reviewing it.

" Based on a sea level definition, we identify eleven interglacials in the last 800,000 years"

LOL!!!

North America melts 5+ million cubic miles of ice, and at the same time Greenland adds 700k+ and Antarctica adds... guestimate.... 500k.

So if they define it by " a sea level definition" they do not prove all melt or all add ice, not even close. In reality, this is another pseudo science load of shit.

Greenland froze while North America thawed.

That proves the "glacials" are complete bullshit, and it proves Co2 is not the cause of climate change.

 

[BackAgain]

" Based on a sea level definition, we identify eleven interglacials in the last 800,000 years"

LOL!!!

North America melts 5+ million cubic miles of ice, and at the same time Greenland adds 700k+ and Antarctica adds... guestimate.... 500k.

So if they define it by " a sea level definition" they do not prove all melt or all add ice, not even close. In reality, this is another pseudo science load of shit.

Greenland froze while North America thawed.

That proves the "glacials" are complete bullshit, and it proves Co2 is not the cause of climate change.

You cherry picked one definition. The authors didn’t.

Glacial periods obviously do exist. And they come and go. This isn’t reasonably disputed.

I still maintain that it is unclear whether higher atmospheric levels of co2 is caused by higher temperatures or is instead one of the causes of higher temperatures.

 

[EMH]

Glacial periods obviously do exist

Um, not per their definition. How did Greenland freeze while North America thawed during the past

10k
20k
50k
1 million

years?


the Co2 FRAUD wants you to believe that planet Earth warms and cools as a whole. It doesn't. The climate changes in response to the amount of ice on it. The amount of ice on Earth is 99%+ about where land is. All land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age. All land outside of 600 miles to a pole is not in ice age.

Greenland moved into the 600 miles to the pole range as North America moved out, and that is why Greenland froze while North America thawed, and that truth is what the Co2 will fight to the death to stop, because that truth refutes every piece of fudge they have ever billed the American taxpayer for.

 

[BackAgain]

Um, not per their definition

You did it again. You use the singular. The authors positives it as one of several competing definitions.

How did Greenland freeze while North America thawed during the past

10k
20k
50k
1 million

years?

I don’t know. I don’t claim to know. I could speculate that planetary variables have greater or lesser impact depending on location (among other things).

the Co2 FRAUD wants you to believe that planet Earth warms and cools as a whole.

Maybe the co2 folks do want us to believe that. Again. I don’t know. But, to me, that doesn’t seem plausible.

You seem a bit high strung over all of this. But that doesn’t mean you’re necessarily wrong.

 

[EMH]

The authors positives it as one of several competing definitions.

Anyway they try to spin the "definition," it fails when Greenland froze while NA thawed at the same time.

I could speculate that planetary variables have greater or lesser impact depending on location (among other things).

Or you could accept the 100% correlation of Earth data today, that every piece of land within 600 miles to a pole is in ice age, and every piece of land outside of 600 miles to a pole is not in ice age, and land moves...

Earth ice today

Antarctica 90%
Greenland 7%
Ellesmere island 0.3%

Maybe the co2 folks do want us to believe that. Again. I don’t know. But, to me, that doesn’t seem plausible.

You seem a bit high strung over all of this. But that doesn’t mean you’re necessarily wrong

If ice ages are continent specific, then the whole Co2 "theory" fails massively. Their theory is that the planet warms and cools as a whole and that the atmosphere is the cause. The atmosphere was actually the same for both Greenland and NA, when G froze and NA thawed, so THEORY REFUTED. And it is they who are "a bit high strung over all of this" because once demonstrated as fact, their entire FRAUD gets exposed...

 

[jc456]

the OP is completely WRONG

THERE IS ZERO EVIDENCE OF AN ICE MELT ON GREENLAND. GREENLAND's ICE AGE IS 1-2 MILLION YEARS OLD, and BEFORE THAT GREENLAND WAS FURTHER SOUTH AND THE CO2 FRAUD HAS ZERO, NONE, ZIP, NADA "EVIDENCE" that GREENLAND WAS EVER FROZEN PRIOR TO 2 million years ago, ZERO.

wilfull stupidity can't be argued with, so now I know your issue. Your head isn't capable of expanding a thought. they call that a parrot.