Gowdy: Witnesses are telling us of a stand-down order during Benghazi attack

[Lilah]

Typical far right partisanship: lie until their lips fall off.

The fact remains that the contractors' story is false.

Their story is accurate. Those brave men served their country and went back to serve it again.

 

[Geaux4it]

Her Thighness Clinton let them die. Probably watched

-Geaux

 

[Lilah]

I think we need 9 more investigations....let the RW start a PAC to pay for them instead of stiffing the American Public.

Read the book.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Gowdy: Witnesses are telling us of a stand-down order during Benghazi attack

I'll bet they have Obama's Kenyan birth certificate too

 

[Lilah]

How about you tell us how they got it wrong?

So you are telling us that they were not at the main building. Tell us how far away were they.

The three lying contractors were in the parking lot of the CIA Annex with the two vehicles during the fifteen minute tactical delay when the Chief of Base and the Security Team Leader were requesting a drone, gathering intelligence, assessing the situation, planning the rescue mission and trying to contact the local militia. When it became clear that the local militia could not provide any large caliber machine guns, the team leader went out ti the vehicles, got into the lead vehicle and the team departed the Annex.

Page 111 of 13 Hours, "After 20 minutes, possibly more, had elapsed since the first radio call had come from the compound, another call came in: If you guys don't get here, we're going to die."
The four operators got into the cars and then the team leader ended the phone call and also got in. Why the delay?

The CIA Annex Security Team Leader took the call for help from the RSO at the diplomatic mission on his cell phone. He ordered his second and four contractors to get their kits and prepare two vehicles. He then informed the Chief of Base. The COB and the team leader then proceeded to request a drone, gather intelligence on the number and weapons of the attackers, asses the situation, formulate a plan for the rescue team (taking into consideration the possibility of an ambush) and contact the local militia for assistance particularity in the form of heavy caliber machine guns). When it appeared that the local militia could not provide heavy caliber machine guns, the team leader went to the vehicles, entered the command seat in the lead vehicle and the team departed the Annex twenty one minutes after the team leader took the call for help from the RSO at the diplomatic mission.

He has to go along with the story given him.
I believe the 4 contractors, who begin to leave of their own volition, and the team leader followed their lead. The contractors previously services: Dave Benton, former Marine sergeant and swat team officer.
Mark (Oz) Geist spent 12 years in the Marine Corps; Kris (Tanto) Paronto was a member of the Army's 75h Regiment; Jack Sila was a former Navy Seal; John (Tig) Tiegen was a former Maine sergeant; and Tyrone (Rone) Woods was a former Navy Seal. These men knew what they were doing.

You have a twisted sense of humor. Tyrone Woods was killed.

 

[bodecea]

I think we need 9 more investigations....let the RW start a PAC to pay for them instead of stiffing the American Public.

Read the book.

I read lots of books.....that doesn't make any of them automatically true. You seem to think that is the case....will you be contributing to the "Investigate Benghazi AGAIN" PAC?

 

[Lilah]

I think we need 9 more investigations....let the RW start a PAC to pay for them instead of stiffing the American Public.

Read the book.

I read lots of books.....that doesn't make any of them automatically true. You seem to think that is the case....will you be contributing to the "Investigate Benghazi AGAIN" PAC?

Oh, I remember you. You don't subscribe to history books.

 

[Slice The Great]

How about you tell us how they got it wrong?

So you are telling us that they were not at the main building. Tell us how far away were they.

The three lying contractors were in the parking lot of the CIA Annex with the two vehicles during the fifteen minute tactical delay when the Chief of Base and the Security Team Leader were requesting a drone, gathering intelligence, assessing the situation, planning the rescue mission and trying to contact the local militia. When it became clear that the local militia could not provide any large caliber machine guns, the team leader went out ti the vehicles, got into the lead vehicle and the team departed the Annex.

Page 111 of 13 Hours, "After 20 minutes, possibly more, had elapsed since the first radio call had come from the compound, another call came in: If you guys don't get here, we're going to die."
The four operators got into the cars and then the team leader ended the phone call and also got in. Why the delay?

The CIA Annex Security Team Leader took the call for help from the RSO at the diplomatic mission on his cell phone. He ordered his second and four contractors to get their kits and prepare two vehicles. He then informed the Chief of Base. The COB and the team leader then proceeded to request a drone, gather intelligence on the number and weapons of the attackers, asses the situation, formulate a plan for the rescue team (taking into consideration the possibility of an ambush) and contact the local militia for assistance particularity in the form of heavy caliber machine guns). When it appeared that the local militia could not provide heavy caliber machine guns, the team leader went to the vehicles, entered the command seat in the lead vehicle and the team departed the Annex twenty one minutes after the team leader took the call for help from the RSO at the diplomatic mission.

He has to go along with the story given him.
I believe the 4 contractors, who begin to leave of their own volition, and the team leader followed their lead. The contractors previously services: Dave Benton, former Marine sergeant and swat team officer.
Mark (Oz) Geist spent 12 years in the Marine Corps; Kris (Tanto) Paronto was a member of the Army's 75h Regiment; Jack Sila was a former Navy Seal; John (Tig) Tiegen was a former Maine sergeant; and Tyrone (Rone) Woods was a former Navy Seal. These men knew what they were doing.

There are only three contractors lying about what happened. There were six members of the CIA rescue team. One was killed. The team leader and his second in command say there was no stand down order. So do other security officers who where in the Annex. The Chief of Base and his second say there was no stand down order. The HSPCI found that recordings from the CCTV system in the annex support those who say there was no stand down order.

 

[bodecea]

I think we need 9 more investigations....let the RW start a PAC to pay for them instead of stiffing the American Public.

Read the book.

I read lots of books.....that doesn't make any of them automatically true. You seem to think that is the case....will you be contributing to the "Investigate Benghazi AGAIN" PAC?

Oh really?

 

[bodecea]

So you are telling us that they were not at the main building. Tell us how far away were they.

The three lying contractors were in the parking lot of the CIA Annex with the two vehicles during the fifteen minute tactical delay when the Chief of Base and the Security Team Leader were requesting a drone, gathering intelligence, assessing the situation, planning the rescue mission and trying to contact the local militia. When it became clear that the local militia could not provide any large caliber machine guns, the team leader went out ti the vehicles, got into the lead vehicle and the team departed the Annex.

Page 111 of 13 Hours, "After 20 minutes, possibly more, had elapsed since the first radio call had come from the compound, another call came in: If you guys don't get here, we're going to die."
The four operators got into the cars and then the team leader ended the phone call and also got in. Why the delay?

The CIA Annex Security Team Leader took the call for help from the RSO at the diplomatic mission on his cell phone. He ordered his second and four contractors to get their kits and prepare two vehicles. He then informed the Chief of Base. The COB and the team leader then proceeded to request a drone, gather intelligence on the number and weapons of the attackers, asses the situation, formulate a plan for the rescue team (taking into consideration the possibility of an ambush) and contact the local militia for assistance particularity in the form of heavy caliber machine guns). When it appeared that the local militia could not provide heavy caliber machine guns, the team leader went to the vehicles, entered the command seat in the lead vehicle and the team departed the Annex twenty one minutes after the team leader took the call for help from the RSO at the diplomatic mission.

He has to go along with the story given him.
I believe the 4 contractors, who begin to leave of their own volition, and the team leader followed their lead. The contractors previously services: Dave Benton, former Marine sergeant and swat team officer.
Mark (Oz) Geist spent 12 years in the Marine Corps; Kris (Tanto) Paronto was a member of the Army's 75h Regiment; Jack Sila was a former Navy Seal; John (Tig) Tiegen was a former Maine sergeant; and Tyrone (Rone) Woods was a former Navy Seal. These men knew what they were doing.

There are only three contractors lying about what happened. There were six members of the CIA rescue team. One was killed. The team leader and his second in command say there was no stand down order. So do other security officers who where in the Annex. The Chief of Base and his second say there was no stand down order. The HSPCI found that recordings from the CCTV system in the annex support those who say there was no stand down order.

You know they want to believe anything that reflects negatively towards this Administration.

 

[Slice The Great]

Typical far right partisanship: lie until their lips fall off.

The fact remains that the contractors' story is false.

Their story is accurate. Those brave men served their country and went back to serve it again.

Their story is full of lies. They were brave that night in Benghazi. In fact, their conduct was heroic.

Their lies about what happened is disgraceful and dishonorable.

May they live forever with their shame.

 

[Slice The Great]

I'll take the word of an Operator before an appointed civilian any day.

The contractors are lying. They are lying about the time the call from the RSO at the diplomatic mission to the annex, the length of the tactical delay, about hearing the RSO officer at the diplomatic mission on the radio (the RSO was on phone with the Leader of the Rescue Team who was on his cell phone) and that the Chief of Base cancelled the rescue mission to go help the diplomatic mission.

The Chief of Base, his number two, the rescue team leader, his number two, other security officers in the annex and the video from the CCTV in the Annex show the contractors are lying.

Do you really think "Bob" is going to tell the truth and out his source?

His source for what?

For telling him to stand down, of course.

What makes you think somebody told the Chief of Base to stand down the mission to go assist the diplomatic mission?

 

[August West]

8 investigations about Benghazi but none about 9-11 or the wmd bullshit. Benghaziism and Birtherism...it`s all the same but we normal folks appreciate the laughs so keep it coming.

 

[ogibillm]

I'll take the word of an Operator before an appointed civilian any day.

one thing is for sure - guns for hire with books to sell are always trustworthy

 

[Katzndogz]

I'll take the word of an Operator before an appointed civilian any day.

one thing is for sure - guns for hire with books to sell are always trustworthy

Of course not. Bureaucrats protecting their asses are trustworthy.

 

[Care4all]

for public use

Fact Sheet - House Intelligence Committee’s Benghazi Report | The Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence


Fact Sheet
House Intelligence Committee’s Benghazi Report

Certain press articles about the House Intelligence Committee’s Report on Benghazi do not accurately represent the Committee’s Report or take into account the full scope of the evidence the Committee received. Statements by individual eyewitnesses, in particular former security contractors who were in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11-12, 2012, do not present the complete picture of what happened that night. The Committee’s Report is based on the totality of the evidence it received and all the testimony of witnesses taken under oath and on the record. The facts described in the Report comport with the findings of other committees in Congress, including the Senate Intelligence Committee, the House Foreign Affairs Committee, the House Armed Services Committee. The Committee stands by its final bipartisan Report that was formally adopted by a voice vote of Committee members.

· The former security contractors who are telling their version of events in the media do not represent the totality of the two CIA rescue teams. Some individuals remain unnamed. Some security officers continue to serve the CIA in dangerous places around the world, and thus cannot disclose their testimony publicly.

· The totality of the evidence indicates that the CIA team departed for the State Department facility 21 minutes after first learning of the attack at 9:42 pm. While Mr. Paronto testified that he believed the call came earlier, the totality of evidence, which includes other eyewitness testimony, FBI reports from the initial eyewitness interviews, time-stamped video footage, and CIA emails and cables, shows that the notification came at 9:42 pm.
· It was a tactical decision of the leadership on the ground to attempt to gather more information about the attack at the TMF before authorizing the team’s departure. There is no evidence to suggest that, absent the delay, the team could have saved Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith.
o The CIA Security Chief led and participated in the rescue mission with the other officers. The Team Leader’s presence in the car supports the conclusion that the security team did not depart without authorization or contrary to orders.
o The Chief of Base and the CIA Security Chief were in charge and made sound decisions to let the team depart after gathering more facts and trying to raise additional and more heavily armed friendly militias to assist the team.
o This was not a standard military rescue operation. The CIA was not responsible for the security of the State Department Temporary Mission Facility, and the Chief of Base and CIA Security Chief had to consider other factors, including the safety of the remaining CIA personnel under their command at the Annex.
· The Committee did not receive any evidence that individuals in Washington, Tripoli, or elsewhere influenced the decision of the Chief of Base or the CIA Security Chief about when and whether to allow the security team to head to the TMF.
· The Report described information from testimony and briefings from Ambassador Kennedy and NCTC Director Olsen that the Diplomatic Security officer repeatedly entered the smoke-filled building to search for Ambassador Stevens. Their testimony was based on available evidence, including time-stamped video footage. The Committee did not interview the Department of State officer, but our report is consistent with reports from the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the Interim Joint House Committee report on the Benghazi attacks. The security contractors were not at the Temporary Mission Facility at the time of this event.
· The Committee did not downplay the ferocity of the terrorist attacks at the Annex that night. The CIA security team and their DoD colleagues professionally defended the facility with great skill and honor.
· The Tripoli team assisted in the defense of the Annex that night. Glen Doherty was a member of the Tripoli Team. Some press articles seem to draw a divide between officers defending from the rooftops and the other officers protecting the Annex. The rooftop positions were not the only defensive positions at the Annex that night.
· The mortar fire that hit the roof of the CIA Annex was the deadly portion of the attack, but it was not the only component. Terrorists attacked with RPGs and smalls arms fire and attempted to breach the Annex. The security teams successfully defended against the assault despite the devastating mortar effects to those officers on the rooftops. Time-stamped video evidence conclusively shows that the Libyan Shield militia left the CIA Annex before the mortar fire began.
· Eyewitness testimony was consistently critical of the conduct of all but one of the Diplomatic Security agents. The Report accurately reflects the testimony the Committee received.

· As the Report indicated, the Department of Defense directed a Predator drone to Benghazi well before one security contractor said he requested it. The CIA security officers in Benghazi should have known that no close air support was available because that information was widely disseminated via cable traffic. The assertions by some contractors about the availability of air support are not representative of the totality of eyewitness testimony and indicate that some may not remember the read-outs of the Emergency Action Committee meetings or the official cable traffic from CIA on the security for the CIA Annex. Further, the House Armed Services Committee (HASC) exhaustively investigated the military posture during the attacks and their response to the attacks in Benghazi. The HASC accounted for all Spectre gunships in the U.S. inventory, and the HASC report speaks for itself.
· There is no evidence showing that the CIA intimidated or prevented any officer from speaking to the Congress or telling his story. All officers testified to the Committee that they were not intimidated. As the Committee report explained, the non-disclosure agreements specifically allow for persons to speak with the Intelligence Committees and outline the requirements for pre-publication review. Further, both the House and Senate Intelligence Committees are aware of the Tripoli officer’s complaint to the CIA Inspector General, the IG’s actions in that regard, and have documentation related to that claim. That correspondence is, however, protected by law from disclosure.
The “BOLO” report was only one of hundreds of intelligence reports indicating the increasing threat environment to U.S. and western facilities in Benghazi. The BOLO is emblematic of strategic warning. The Committee’s report outlined all of the tactical intelligence about potential plotting to attack U.S. facilities that day.

 

[bodecea]

Typical far right partisanship: lie until their lips fall off.

The fact remains that the contractors' story is false.

Their story is accurate. Those brave men served their country and went back to serve it again.

Their story is full of lies. They were brave that night in Benghazi. In fact, their conduct was heroic.

Their lies about what happened is disgraceful and dishonorable.

May they live forever with their shame.

I'm sure they thank Hillary every night for running for President so they can continue to go on FOX.

 

[ogibillm]

Typical far right partisanship: lie until their lips fall off.

The fact remains that the contractors' story is false.

Their story is accurate. Those brave men served their country and went back to serve it again.

nope. they took a job the second time around

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yes, they are heroic, and ogilbillm's opinion is based on feeling not facts.

 

[Claudette]

Well three of the CIA contractors who were there were issued a stand down order by their bosses.

They listened to the radio with State Department people yelling for help. The three said Fuck it and went anyway.

These three were on Fox news. They were there and saw what was happening as it happened.

I'd believe them first.