Government shouldn't force people to be fair

[MayorQuimby]

Imagine that I am an employer interviewing applicants. One applicant has an angelic face and a gorgeous smile, and the other has an ugly face. Guess who I am gonna hire, all things being equal? I guess this fits the definition of what a lefty would call discrimination, but to me there is nothing bad or malicious going on in my mind at all. Im just doing what comes to me naturally. In fact it comes to all of us naturally, and that is to give a good-looking human better treatment. Lefties don't like this (especially when it happens in a racial context), but it's simply just a natural human instinct. Besides, if I don't want to be fair in my hiring decisions, that is none of a lefty's or the government's business. I don't owe anybody a job. I am under no obligation to be fair to anybody. And if the government tries to use its arbitrary power to force me to hire who I don't want to hire, I will tell it to f*ck right off.

Lefties and the government need to realize that Nature is not fair, the world is not fair, and there are simply humans who are more beautiful, smarter, taller, more disciplined, more graceful, more likeable..etc etc, than other humans. It is unwise to force people to be fair. It is unnatural, and it's not right. The government does not have any business telling private entities to be fair. If it wants to be fair, that's its business. But it shouldn't try to tell us to be fair. Why should we be fair? Because the government says so? The government can go suck something for all I care.

 

[DukeU]

Being fair is letting everybody make their own decisions, anything else is unfair.

 

[airplanemechanic]

I can see where you're coming from. I do support the nondiscrimination laws as written. Nobody should be not hired for a job they qualify for because they're a woman, or a man, whatever. Or because of their race. But I shouldn't have to hire a ****** if I don't want one at my company, so the law allows me to eliminate fags from the payrolls if I so choose. I shouldn't have to hire a ******* liberal, and I don't.

 

[martybegan]

Imagine that I am an employer interviewing applicants. One applicant has an angelic face and a gorgeous smile, and the other has an ugly face. Guess who I am gonna hire, all things being equal? I guess this fits the definition of what a lefty would call discrimination, but to me there is nothing bad or malicious going on in my mind at all. Im just doing what comes to me naturally. In fact it comes to all of us naturally, and that is to give a good-looking human better treatment. Lefties don't like this (especially when it happens in a racial context), but it's simply just a natural human instinct. Besides, if I don't want to be fair in my hiring decisions, that is none of a lefty's or the government's business. I don't owe anybody a job. I am under no obligation to be fair to anybody. And if the government tries to use its arbitrary power to force me to hire who I don't want to hire, I will tell it to f*ck right off.

Lefties and the government need to realize that Nature is not fair, the world is not fair, and there are simply humans who are more beautiful, smarter, taller, more disciplined, more graceful, more likeable..etc etc, than other humans. It is unwise to force people to be fair. It is unnatural, and it's not right. The government does not have any business telling private entities to be fair. If it wants to be fair, that's its business. But it shouldn't try to tell us to be fair. Why should we be fair? Because the government says so? The government can go suck something for all I care.

If I'm hiring for a machine shop I don't want the pretty person, I want the ugly one.

Or maybe the best one.

 

[IM2]

Imagine that I am an employer interviewing applicants. One applicant has an angelic face and a gorgeous smile, and the other has an ugly face. Guess who I am gonna hire, all things being equal? I guess this fits the definition of what a lefty would call discrimination, but to me there is nothing bad or malicious going on in my mind at all. Im just doing what comes to me naturally. In fact it comes to all of us naturally, and that is to give a good-looking human better treatment. Lefties don't like this (especially when it happens in a racial context), but it's simply just a natural human instinct. Besides, if I don't want to be fair in my hiring decisions, that is none of a lefty's or the government's business. I don't owe anybody a job. I am under no obligation to be fair to anybody. And if the government tries to use its arbitrary power to force me to hire who I don't want to hire, I will tell it to f*ck right off.

Lefties and the government need to realize that Nature is not fair, the world is not fair, and there are simply humans who are more beautiful, smarter, taller, more disciplined, more graceful, more likeable..etc etc, than other humans. It is unwise to force people to be fair. It is unnatural, and it's not right. The government does not have any business telling private entities to be fair. If it wants to be fair, that's its business. But it shouldn't try to tell us to be fair. Why should we be fair? Because the government says so? The government can go suck something for all I care.

Said, by a white racist. Nature may not be fair but nature didn't make laws to benefit one group over everyone else and government as defined by our Bill of Rights and Constitution is to ensure a fair society for all. Right-wingers don't like that concept and it's funny how people lie you think because you whine about things that you don't believe are fair to you.

I hired people based on the qualifications listed on resumes and the competence shown in interviews. A dumb good good-looking person hurts business. A brilliant ugly person helps business grow. You have a problem.

 

[MayorQuimby]

If I'm hiring for a machine shop I don't want the pretty person, I want the ugly one.

Or maybe the best one.

It's not about who you want to hire. If you want to hire the dumbest, most incompetent person for the job, it should be your freedom. The government shouldn't use its power to force businesses to hire people they don't want to hire.

 

[IM2]

I can see where you're coming from. I do support the nondiscrimination laws as written. Nobody should be not hired for a job they qualify for because they're a woman, or a man, whatever. Or because of their race. But I shouldn't have to hire a ****** if I don't want one at my company, so the law allows me to eliminate fags from the payrolls if I so choose. I shouldn't have to hire a ******* liberal, and I don't.

Nobody should but white men have and continue to get hired because of their race and sex. You wouldn't know an employee is gay unless they told you. Neither would you know a person is liberal.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Said, by a white racist. Nature may not be fair but nature didn't make laws to benefit one group over everyone else and government as defined by our Bill of Rights and Constitution is to ensure a fair society for all. Right-wingers don't like that concept and it's funny how people lie you think because you whine about things that you don't believe are fair to you.

I hired people based on the qualifications listed on resumes and the competence shown in interviews. A dumb good good-looking person hurts business. A brilliant ugly person helps business grow. You have a problem.

Yea, the only business I judge on the attractiveness of the staff would be Hooters, Twin Peaks or the local strip club. Otherwise, I want good service and a polite experience. I don't care what you look like.

 

[MayorQuimby]

I can see where you're coming from. I do support the nondiscrimination laws as written. Nobody should be not hired for a job they qualify for because they're a woman, or a man, whatever. Or because of their race. But I shouldn't have to hire a ****** if I don't want one at my company, so the law allows me to eliminate fags from the payrolls if I so choose. I shouldn't have to hire a ******* liberal, and I don't.

If you don't want to hire homosexuals, you should be able to do that. And if you can discriminate against homosexuals, then you should also be able to discriminate against a woman or someone of a particular race.

 

[IM2]

It's not about who you want to hire. If you want to hire the dumbest, most incompetent person for the job, it should be your freedom. The government shouldn't use its power to force businesses to hire people they don't want to hire.

The government used its power to exclude everyone who was not a white man for nearly 200 years.

 

[martybegan]

It's not about who you want to hire. If you want to hire the dumbest, most incompetent person for the job, it should be your freedom. The government shouldn't use its power to force businesses to hire people they don't want to hire.

To me it's a State issue if they want to implement anti-discrimination laws.

What they can't do is assign quotas.

Not hiring a person because they are black is bad. Only hiring a person because they are black is only slightly less bad.

 

[airplanemechanic]

If you don't want to hire homosexuals, you should be able to do that. And if you can discriminate against homosexuals, then you should also be able to discriminate against a woman or someone of a particular race.

I disagree. Discrimination based on race or sex is and should be illegal. Just like you shouldn't not hire someone because of their age. It's basically things they can't choose. Since you can't pick your race, sex or age, it's not fair to hold those things against someone. You can pick if you're a *** or a liberal.

 

[Anathema]

I can see where you're coming from. I do support the nondiscrimination laws as written. Nobody should be not hired for a job they qualify for because they're a woman, or a man, whatever. Or because of their race. But I shouldn't have to hire a ****** if I don't want one at my company, so the law allows me to eliminate fags from the payrolls if I so choose. I shouldn't have to hire a ******* liberal, and I don't.

Then why should I have to hire a woman if I don’t want to? I don’t believe women should be in the workforce… why should I have to hire one?

 

[MayorQuimby]

The government used its power to exclude everyone who was not a white man for nearly 200 years.

That's a whole other topic. Lets not get sidetracked.

Governments shouldn't force private businesses to hire those they don't want to hire, agree or disagree?

 

[IM2]

Yea, the only business I judge on the attractiveness of the staff would be Hooters, Twin Peaks or the local strip club. Otherwise, I want good service and a polite experience. I don't care what you look like.

Fair enough. But how are you going to fix the damage created by almost 250 years of racist practices both overt and covert by maintaining the advantages whites gained from those practices?

 

[IM2]

Then why should I have to hire a woman if I don’t want to? I don’t believe women should be in the workforce… why should I have to hire one?

Then you probably; should not take any money from women customers.

 

[DukeU]

Said, by a white racist. Nature may not be fair but nature didn't make laws to benefit one group over everyone else and government as defined by our Bill of Rights and Constitution is to ensure a fair society for all. Right-wingers don't like that concept and it's funny how people lie you think because you whine about things that you don't believe are fair to you.

I hired people based on the qualifications listed on resumes and the competence shown in interviews. A dumb good good-looking person hurts business. A brilliant ugly person helps business grow. You have a problem.

It's impossible to ensure a fair society for all.

Not all people make good decisions.

But thanks for admitting you hired based on merit and not skin color, gender, etc.

 

[MayorQuimby]

I disagree. Discrimination based on race or sex is and should be illegal. Just like you shouldn't not hire someone because of their age. It's basically things they can't choose. Since you can't pick your race, sex or age, it's not fair to hold those things against someone. You can pick if you're a *** or a liberal.

Why should discrimination on race or sex be illegal?

 

[airplanemechanic]

Then why should I have to hire a woman if I don’t want to? I don’t believe women should be in the workforce… why should I have to hire one?

Why wouldn't you hire one? Women are much better at some jobs than men.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Why should discrimination on race or sex be illegal?

I just explained why. In the text you quoted.