Gosnell... Abortion Atrocities

[nodoginnafight]

MHO: A fetus is a human being who has a right to protection under our legal system. The mother is an individual who has rights as well. Sometimes these rights come into conflict and we have to decide between the lesser of two evils.

IMHO protecting life takes the priority position.

 

[SuMar]

"I can't even believe that I made this decision in the first place. It makes me sick!!! I felt pressured into this due to a bad relationship with my husband. Our families do not like our spouses so this would not be welcomed. I know selfish. I feel like I could have done this and that I should have just left when I wanted to! I am now suffering big time with depression as I suffer from being bipolar, have PTSD, anxiety and ADD. I take medication daily to control this. I have hidden all my medical illnesses and abortion from everyone due to their judgement. I have no one to talk to except my husband who just blows me off. He could care less about how I'm feeling or should I say suffering."

My Abortion Nightmare! : I Had An Abortion Story & Experience

" I was so excited and couldn't wait to tell him about it. I was about 6 or 7 weeks along. I told him and he seemed very upset. He told me there was no way he was going to have a child. Being totally against abortion, I told him no way. We seemed to get into more arguments, and the abuse seemed to get worse. I was determined to have this baby. I was about 12 weeks or so when the worst came. He told me if I didn't go get an abortion he would kill me. He actually held a gun to my head. We drove to some place in New Jersey. To this day I still don't know why I agreed, I think it was fear for my life and my family more then anything. His father was a Doctor and this was the office of one of his friends. It was a weekend and it seemed like there wasn't another person on the planet. I was so scared. I begged and pleaded telling him I wouldn't tell anyone it was his. He just told me to shut up and stop being such a baby; this kind of thing happens everyday.
When we got in there I begged the Doctor not to do it. He seemed to ignore me. I cried and begged. I remember having something restraining my arms and that's it. I don't have any actual memories of the procedure itself. The next thing I remember is waking up home in my apartment. Things only got worse from there. I bled so much I thought I was going to die, and I cried so much I eventually became numb. The beatings got worse. Finally, I got the strength to leave. No one knew about what I went through. I just thought if I didn't talk about it, it didn't happen."
Abortion - Forced Abortion by Holly Faust

Koshergrl, we all make decisions in our lives we are not happy with or later regret. I've made many myself. what is important is that we learn from them. understand what drove us to make them but ultimately learn to come to peace with them. we can't change the past. we can't undo what is done. but we can move forward on a positive note with what we learned from it. help ourselves in our future decisions and perhaps even help others it sounds like you have a lot of very stressful situations surrounding your relationship. that is bound to cause emotional issues for you because it is one area we really want to be a stable and positive force in our lives. I don't know what to say to help you there, but as far as the abortion goes, don't continue to beat yourself up over it. you know what your feelings are surrounding it. let that issue fall into the past.

Huh?

What does that have to do with killing babies? Killing a baby is wrong, and it is wrong to promote it. These women are forced/coerced/tricked into believing that killing their baby is the *right* thing to do...and by the time they realize they don't HAVE to and they shouldn't, it's too late, and they know it.

We need to stop preying upon vulnerable women. The abortion machine preys on vulnerable women. They lie to them and tell them that legalized, assembly line abortion is about *rights* and *health* when really, it's about the removal of rights, and it is in no way a *health* issue..except that it poses a significant health risk to the poor women who undergo it...and results in death for the babies they carry.

I'm just curious how many Planned Parent facilities counsel each and every woman and young girl the long term effects and complications that can occur when having an abortion. Or is Planned Parenthood just in it for the money?

Family Research Council​

 

[JoeB131]

What ridiculous crap you spew.

Yeah, minding your own business, how crazy is that?

 

[JoeB131]

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Huh?

What does that have to do with killing babies? Killing a baby is wrong, and it is wrong to promote it. These women are forced/coerced/tricked into believing that killing their baby is the *right* thing to do...and by the time they realize they don't HAVE to and they shouldn't, it's too late, and they know it.

We need to stop preying upon vulnerable women. The abortion machine preys on vulnerable women. They lie to them and tell them that legalized, assembly line abortion is about *rights* and *health* when really, it's about the removal of rights, and it is in no way a *health* issue..except that it poses a significant health risk to the poor women who undergo it...and results in death for the babies they carry.

Why, yes, those poor helpless things, they had no idea what theywere doing when they

Looked up an abortion provider
Made an appointment
Got authorization from their insurance
Drove down to the clinic
Waiting for their turn
Paid for the procedure
Got the procedure
Went home and forgot about it.

Again, Koshie, I'm wondering what is in your past you are projecting about.

"How about that, Mr. Man!"

 

[JoeB131]

Joe is another one of those Fake republicans that harken back to Einsenhower days, where they still opposed abortion and such....it's funny how he doesnt agree with the republicans on a single issue and say the party left him.......hahahahahahaahaha

I love the fake republican brigade......

Joe's happy when people died, he must love the new Boston Marathon

Abortion wasn't an issue in Ike's day. Women just quietly had them.

Of course, back in those days, the Religious whacks weren't running the GOP.

Should be pointed that five of the 7 justices who decided Roe were appointed by Nixon and Eisenhower.

 

[JoeB131]

["everyone goes home happy"?

Wow, you just can't stop slamming women, can ya'?.......'cause you would have to be one sick individual to go home happy after deciding to have innocent life/lives summarily ripped from the womb.

Although, I have no doubt you yourself would go home happy, ya' fuckin' ghoul.

Obviously, you don't know a lot of women who've had abortions.

Most of them are thrilled when the procedure is over.

 

[koshergrl]

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Huh?

What does that have to do with killing babies? Killing a baby is wrong, and it is wrong to promote it. These women are forced/coerced/tricked into believing that killing their baby is the *right* thing to do...and by the time they realize they don't HAVE to and they shouldn't, it's too late, and they know it.

We need to stop preying upon vulnerable women. The abortion machine preys on vulnerable women. They lie to them and tell them that legalized, assembly line abortion is about *rights* and *health* when really, it's about the removal of rights, and it is in no way a *health* issue..except that it poses a significant health risk to the poor women who undergo it...and results in death for the babies they carry.

Why, yes, those poor helpless things, they had no idea what theywere doing when they

Looked up an abortion provider
Made an appointment
Got authorization from their insurance
Drove down to the clinic
Waiting for their turn
Paid for the procedure
Got the procedure
Went home and forgot about it.

Again, Koshie, I'm wondering what is in your past you are projecting about.

"How about that, Mr. Man!"

"
Coercion facts:

• 64 percent of abortions involve some sort of coercion.
• 45 percent of men interviewed at abortion clinics recalled urging abortion, including 37 percent of married men.
• Teens are at higher risk for becoming victims of coerced abortion.

According to researcher David Reardon, women give these reasons, among others, for undergoing abortion:

• Forced by their mother, father, husband or boyfriend
• Lack of support from social network
• Persuaded / pressured by abortion center"
• Forced Abortions

 

[JoeB131]

Do you have figures on this that don't come from whacked out pro-life groups?

 

[koshergrl]

"A Planned Parenthood abortion business in Delaware has been closed pending an investigation over multiple botched abortions at the clinic.
As LifeNews has reported, the Delaware Planned Parenthood clinic has experienced five botched abortion emergencies in less than five weeks. Since then, one abortionist and two employees have left Planned Parenthood in Wilmington, Delaware, as a result of the scandal.
The clinic is now under the investigation of the Delaware Department of Health and Social Services and the Delaware Board of Medical Licensure and Discipline."

Video: Delaware Planned Parenthood clinic closed after whistleblowers go public about conditions « Hot Air

 

[JoeB131]

"A Planned Parenthood abortion business in Delaware has been closed pending an investigation over multiple botched abortions at the clinic.
As LifeNews has reported, the Delaware Planned Parenthood clinic has experienced five botched abortion emergencies in less than five weeks. Since then, one abortionist and two employees have left Planned Parenthood in Wilmington, Delaware, as a result of the scandal.
The clinic is now under the investigation of the Delaware Department of Health and Social Services and the Delaware Board of Medical Licensure and Discipline."

Video: Delaware Planned Parenthood clinic closed after whistleblowers go public about conditions « Hot Air

so people were bad at their jobs and got fired.

And no one died. Except the fetuses, but like I said, no one.

Do you actually spend your days and nights looking for this shit? Because, frankly, you need to get over yourself.

 

[WillowTree]

they do wish they could sweep this away..

this might take Sandy hook off the front page and they can't use this for anything because they support abortion

Well, we could talk about how the attempts by the right to drive legitmate practioners out of the abortion business by killing them, threatening them, cutting funding to poor women trying to get abortions in the first trimester, and so on has created guys like Gosnell.

Or that if we were talking about rich white women, they never had problems like this, because they could always get a nice safe abortion if they wanted one.

But you guys will just show your fetus porn and wag your fingers and try to pretend this is an important story when it really isn't.

We don't fund abortions remember? So, how could you possibly accuse us of cutting funding?

 

[Jroc]

Prosecutor on Handling Abortionist's 'Stained' Files: 'You Might Want to Use Gloves'

Dr. Kermit Gosnell, charged with 7 counts of first-degree murder, killing babies reportedly born alive at his abortion office in West Philadelphia, Pa. (AP

More than three years after Dr. Kermit Gosnell’s abortion clinic was raided by the FBI, blood-stained files recovered from the Women’s Medical Society still smell from the clinic, which was described by the grand jury as a “baby charnel house.”

Gosnell currently is on trial in Philadelphia for the first-degree murder of seven babies that were born alive during abortions and then killed, the third-degree murder of a woman, and a variety of related charges.

Assistant District Attorney Edward Cameron presented dozens of files from patients at the clinic in the Philadelphia Court of Common Pleas on Wednesday, all for women who underwent abortion procedures beyond 24 weeks, which is illegal in Pennsylvania.

When presenting the files to Gosnell’s attorney, Jack McMahon, Cameron cautioned, “You might want to use gloves.”

“The files smell,” he said. “You might want to use gloves because there’s a red dried substance.”

Prosecutor on Handling Abortionist's 'Stained' Files: 'You Might Want to Use Gloves' | CNS News

 

[JoeB131]

they do wish they could sweep this away..

this might take Sandy hook off the front page and they can't use this for anything because they support abortion

Well, we could talk about how the attempts by the right to drive legitmate practioners out of the abortion business by killing them, threatening them, cutting funding to poor women trying to get abortions in the first trimester, and so on has created guys like Gosnell.

Or that if we were talking about rich white women, they never had problems like this, because they could always get a nice safe abortion if they wanted one.

But you guys will just show your fetus porn and wag your fingers and try to pretend this is an important story when it really isn't.

We don't fund abortions remember? So, how could you possibly accuse us of cutting funding?

Exactly my point. We don't. And then we wonder why guys like Gosnell are running half-ass clinics for poor people.

 

[koshergrl]

We do fund abortions.

Everything joe says is a lie, as everybody knows.

 

[JoeB131]

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Prosecutor on Handling Abortionist's 'Stained' Files: 'You Might Want to Use Gloves' | CNS News

Dude, is this like porn to you. It seems like you are getting off reposting this stuff.

No one is debating that Gosnell wasn't incompetent and what he did wasn't horrible.

We just aren't letting you use it to attack the right to choose dishonestly.

 

[koshergrl]

"Medicaid covers abortion in 15 states in the U.S. If you live in one of the states below, click on the state name to be taken to some instructions about how to enroll in Medicaid quickly. If you want to use Medicaid to cover your abortion, you must live in and have your abortion in the same state."

Can Medicaid cover my abortion? | Fund Abortion Now.org

 

[JoeB131]

We don't fund abortions remember? So, how could you possibly accuse us of cutting funding?

We do fund abortions.

Everything joe says is a lie, as everybody knows.

Wait, you wingnuts need to get your story straight. Are we funding abortions or not.

 

[koshergrl]

"
Be confident when you apply and know that, if you qualify for Medicaid, you have the right to receive abortion coverage and enroll in a timely manner.
When applying, be sure to tell your caseworker that you are pregnant and would like the application process to be expedited. You do not need to tell them you are planning to have an abortion. "
Can Medicaid cover my abortion? | Fund Abortion Now.org

 

[JoeB131]

"Medicaid covers abortion in 15 states in the U.S. If you live in one of the states below, click on the state name to be taken to some instructions about how to enroll in Medicaid quickly. If you want to use Medicaid to cover your abortion, you must live in and have your abortion in the same state."

Can Medicaid cover my abortion? | Fund Abortion Now.org

Hey ,you found my site. You actually bothered to read it.

Too bad you didn't understand it.

15 states that do mean 35 states don't.

One of those states is Pennsylvania, where Gosnell operated.

 

[koshergrl]

"ALASKA​

Denali KidCare is Alaska’s state Medicaid program for pregnant women and it covers abortion."

CALIFORNIA​

California’s state Medicaid program is called Medi-Cal. The requirements and enrollment process will vary depending on the county where you live. Medi-Cal covers abortion.

CONNECTICUT​

The state Medicaid program for pregnant women in Connecticut is called HUSKY. HUSKY covers abortion."

Should I really go on?

Can Medicaid cover my abortion? | Fund Abortion Now.org