GOP wants to screw US over Social Security

[22lcidw]

I’m not a democrat. They lie by trying to compromise with republicans who are literally wrong on major issues , all the time. Things like keeping RBG on the court way too long when she was at deaths door for a decade. They actually thought republicans could be dealt with when she stepped down or died. Yup, compromising with MAGAs is BS denial.

Ginsberg was an Extreme Feminist Progressive Socialist Jewish Woman. And uplifted by the godless state as an icon. Working for the ACLU made no difference for Progs.

 

[Dagosa]

Ginsberg was an Extreme Feminist Progressive Socialist Jewish Woman. And uplifted by the godless state as an icon. Working for the ACLU made no difference for Progs.

You hit a lot of bigotry in that one post. I rest my case.

 

[Delldude]

Oh gee. A bipartisan idea that always gets brought up in social security talks. Warm up the presses!!!
Moron

Or right before elections.

 

[Stann]

Or right before elections.

The only threats voiced against social security came from.the right. They made it an issue.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Yes, democrat lies are different, because reasons and feelz.

More because they’re often policy.

 

[hadit]

I’m saying, you’re delusional.

It has been my observation on these matters that when someone veers into personal insult territory, they've already lost the argument.

 

[hadit]

I’m not a democrat. They lie by trying to compromise with republicans who are literally wrong on major issues , all the time. Things like keeping RBG on the court way too long when she was at deaths door for a decade. They actually thought republicans could be dealt with when she stepped down or died. Yup, compromising with MAGAs is BS denial.

You're not a democrat but you bend over backwards and twist yourself into a pretzel to justify their lying. A true non-democrat would have no trouble stating clearly that democrats do lie and there's no justification for it.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

It has been my observation on these matters that when someone veers into personal insult territory, they've already lost the argument.

I’m not necessarily referring to this instant as I have your respondent on ignore but sometimes accurate assessments come off as insults.

 

[Stann]

It has been my observation on these matters that when someone veers into personal insult territory, they've already lost the argument.

In principle I agree with that but there are exceptions ; you qualify as an exception this case.

I’m not necessarily referring to this instant as I have your respondent on ignore but sometimes accurate assessments come off as insults.

And most of the time they don't ,as in this case.

 

[Stann]

The only threats voiced against social security came from.the right. They made it an issue.

trump has promised to secure social security with growth in the economy. That's not even workable because he promised to remove millions of immigrants. Immigrants contribute 18 % of the entire economy
So if anything he's going to shrink the economy , not grow it and that's how he's going to destroy the economy once and for all.

 

[g5000]

The only threats voiced against social security came from.the right. They made it an issue.

Someone needs to.

We have to stop pretending Social Security is viable under the current system.

The population is aging. Just look at the struggles Japan is having taking care of their elderly. They are the canary in the coal mine which shows our future if we don't do something.

And that solution has to be increasing the retirement age.

We are living DECADES longer than our ancestors who created Social Security. We therefore need to work longer.

This is just plain common sense.

Everyone needs to get off their entitlement mindset and face reality.

The only way to keep Social Security and Medicare solvent is to increase the retirement age to 70 and index it to 9 percent of the population.

It is far past time to man up.

 

[Delldude]

trump has promised to secure social security with growth in the economy. That's not even workable because he promised to remove millions of immigrants. Immigrants contribute 18 % of the entire economy

If they're not here legally and receiving benefits, it is very workable.

 

[g5000]

Percent of US population over 65 in 1935 (time of creation of SS): 5.7%

Percent of US population over 65 in 1958 (Medicare created): 9%

Percent of US population over 65 today: 17.3%

A smaller and smaller percentage of the population is supporting a larger and larger percentage.

There is only one viable solution.

 

[g5000]

If they're not here legally and receiving benefits, it is very workable.

Many illegals are paying payroll taxes upon which they will never collect.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Many illegals are paying payroll taxes upon which they will never collect.

They shouldn't. They're criminal

 

[Stann]

Someone needs to.

We have to stop pretending Social Security is viable under the current system.

The population is aging. Just look at the struggles Japan is having taking care of their elderly. They are the canary in the coal mine which shows our future if we don't do something.

And that solution has to be increasing the retirement age.

We are living DECADES longer than our ancestors who created Social Security. We therefore need to work longer.

This is just plain common sense.

Everyone needs to get off their entitlement mindset and face reality.

The only way to keep Social Security and Medicare solvent is to increase the retirement age to 70 and index it to 9 percent of the population.

It is far past time to man up.

We don't have enough workers so that would help but how many of the elderly are able or even want to keep working ? Not many , I did not take my social security until was almost 68. I still worked part-time until now , age 73 but no longer able to work. Cut out most everything I could , just getting by. Obamacare was too late to save me.Had cancer twice years ago and that took everything. That's life. The golden years are not real , like Greenland wasting Iceland.

 

[g5000]

We don't have enough workers so that would help but how many of the elderly are able or even want to keep working ? Not many , I did not take my social security until was almost 68. I still worked part-time until now , age 73 but no longer able to work. Cut out most everything I could , just getting by. Obamacare was too late to save me.Had cancer twice years ago and that took everything. That's life. The golden years are not real , like Greenland wasting Iceland.

The average life expectancy when Social Security was enacted was 60.

Social Security was intended for those who beat the odds. It was also slanted against blue collar workers. Ditch diggers and such. People who died younger or were too disabled to work until they were 65.

Today's labor is nowhere near as intensive as it was then.

You can retire early, at age 62, right now. But the average worker continues to work until 65. Most workers will be able to work until 70.

Again, we are on an unsustainable track. We can complain, or we can fix it one and for all.

We are living longer, we should be working longer.

 

[sartre play]

Specifically, how much will that raise?

GOOD QUESTION.

 

[sartre play]

We don't have enough workers so that would help but how many of the elderly are able or even want to keep working ? Not many , I did not take my social security until was almost 68. I still worked part-time until now , age 73 but no longer able to work. Cut out most everything I could , just getting by. Obamacare was too late to save me.Had cancer twice years ago and that took everything. That's life. The golden years are not real , like Greenland wasting Iceland.

YOUR A REAL FIGHTER, & not a cry baby.

 

[Stann]

The average life expectancy when Social Security was enacted was 60.

Social Security was intended for those who beat the odds. It was also slanted against blue collar workers. Ditch diggers and such. People who died younger or were too disabled to work until they were 65.

Today's labor is nowhere near as intensive as it was then.

You can retire early, at age 62, right now. But the average worker continues to work until 65. Most workers will be able to work until 70.

Again, we are on an unsustainable track. We can complain, or we can fix it one and for all.

We are living longer, we should be working longer.

There are many ways to fix any problem