GOP wants to make sure the economy does not improve

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They don't need to work too awfully hard at that.

All the conditions for a world wide depression are pretty much already in place.

Naturally they do need to continue blaming Obama and the stimulus for all the woes facing us, but that is really just propaganda for the home audience.

This economy is not going to improve much regardless of what the GOP does or does not do.

STill, your point that they are obstructionists bent on making things worse for the people does have some merit.

Their most recent and most obvious example of that was their refusal to work to raise the debt level.

That assinine move cost America a LOT of faith and confidence in the economic world.
 

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Fed chairman gets letter from GOP leaders: No stimulus - Sep. 21, 2011

Yup, their goal is to stiffle any economic growth before the 2012 elections. Another excellent example of their platform of "Party over Country"
make sure the economy doesn't improve ?? The GOP forced Clinton to cut spending and balance the budget !! Reaganomics brought in nearly 25 YRs of economic growth !!Bush inherited a recession and a terror attack that was treated as criminal actions by the previous administration instead of war and using our military intelligence and resources to fight them giving us 911 !! Bush cut taxes the economy boomed again and the military kept us safe !! these are the facts !! libbs and the community reinvestment act are the biggst causes of what we have today !! And the lefts answers are to tax and spend more !! the fact that the GOP is better for America will be realized in 2013 when we control the congress and the White House !!The contrast between conservative prosperity and liberal waste will be so shocking that the left will be crippled!!
 
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They don't need to work too awfully hard at that.

All the conditions for a world wide depression are pretty much already in place.

Naturally they do need to continue blaming Obama and the stimulus for all the woes facing us, but that is really just propaganda for the home audience.

This economy is not going to improve much regardless of what the GOP does or does not do.

STill, your point that they are obstructionists bent on making things worse for the people does have some merit.

Their most recent and most obvious example of that was their refusal to work to raise the debt level.

That assinine move cost America a LOT of faith and confidence in the economic world.
I thought the debt level was raised !! typical liberal liar !!
 

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They don't need to work too awfully hard at that.

All the conditions for a world wide depression are pretty much already in place.

Naturally they do need to continue blaming Obama and the stimulus for all the woes facing us, but that is really just propaganda for the home audience.

This economy is not going to improve much regardless of what the GOP does or does not do.

STill, your point that they are obstructionists bent on making things worse for the people does have some merit.

Their most recent and most obvious example of that was their refusal to work to raise the debt level.

That assinine move cost America a LOT of faith and confidence in the economic world.
World depression based on what?

Although there have been some natural calamities due to shifting climate trends and some unpredictable factors there is not much that is really fueling this, except for "fear". Aside from Italy and Greece, most European nations aren't in bad shape. And by that..the stuff that makes a country "wealthy"; mining, agriculture, manufacturing..and now "information gathering" is relatively stable.

So what we have is a money crisis. And this is basically as a result of what looks to be a world wide fraud.

It's my hope that, on a world wide basis, the world evaluates the folly of allowing a greedy cadre of people to accumulate wealth, unchecked.

Because this is the sort of nonsense that springs out of that. Almost every time.
 

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Fed chairman gets letter from GOP leaders: No stimulus - Sep. 21, 2011

Yup, their goal is to stiffle any economic growth before the 2012 elections. Another excellent example of their platform of "Party over Country"
make sure the economy doesn't improve ?? The GOP forced Clinton to cut spending and balance the budget !! Reaganomics brought in nearly 25 YRs of economic growth !!Bush inherited a recession and a terror attack that was treated as criminal actions by the previous administration instead of war and using our military intelligence and resources to fight them giving us 911 !! Bush cut taxes the economy boomed again and the military kept us safe !! these are the facts !! libbs and the community reinvestment act are the biggst causes of what we have today !! And the lefts answers are to tax and spend more !! the fact that the GOP is better for America will be realized in 2013 when we control the congress and the White House !!The contrast between conservative prosperity and liberal waste will be so shocking that the left will be crippled!!

:lmao:
 

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Fed chairman gets letter from GOP leaders: No stimulus - Sep. 21, 2011

Yup, their goal is to stiffle any economic growth before the 2012 elections. Another excellent example of their platform of "Party over Country"
make sure the economy doesn't improve ?? The GOP forced Clinton to cut spending and balance the budget !! Reaganomics brought in nearly 25 YRs of economic growth !!Bush inherited a recession and a terror attack that was treated as criminal actions by the previous administration instead of war and using our military intelligence and resources to fight them giving us 911 !! Bush cut taxes the economy boomed again and the military kept us safe !! these are the facts !! libbs and the community reinvestment act are the biggst causes of what we have today !! And the lefts answers are to tax and spend more !! the fact that the GOP is better for America will be realized in 2013 when we control the congress and the White House !!The contrast between conservative prosperity and liberal waste will be so shocking that the left will be crippled!!


The CBO credited the 1993 budget redcution act with the lions share of budget deficit reductions.

The 1993 budget reduction act recieved NOT ONE republican vote and Gore as VP had to come to congress and vote to get it passed.

The republican party then campaigned on the law was going to distroy America.

They were DEAD wrong and did everything they could to try and kill the bill that gave us the lions share of budget reductions.
 

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Fed chairman gets letter from GOP leaders: No stimulus - Sep. 21, 2011

Yup, their goal is to stiffle any economic growth before the 2012 elections. Another excellent example of their platform of "Party over Country"
make sure the economy doesn't improve ?? The GOP forced Clinton to cut spending and balance the budget !! Reaganomics brought in nearly 25 YRs of economic growth !!Bush inherited a recession and a terror attack that was treated as criminal actions by the previous administration instead of war and using our military intelligence and resources to fight them giving us 911 !! Bush cut taxes the economy boomed again and the military kept us safe !! these are the facts !! libbs and the community reinvestment act are the biggst causes of what we have today !! And the lefts answers are to tax and spend more !! the fact that the GOP is better for America will be realized in 2013 when we control the congress and the White House !!The contrast between conservative prosperity and liberal waste will be so shocking that the left will be crippled!!


The CBO credited the 1993 budget redcution act with the lions share of budget deficit reductions.

The 1993 budget reduction act recieved NOT ONE republican vote and Gore as VP had to come to congress and vote to get it passed.

The republican party then campaigned on the law was going to distroy America.

They were DEAD wrong and did everything they could to try and kill the bill that gave us the lions share of budget reductions.
The CBO has zero credibility. Every single prediction they have made has been wrong. Their entire methodology is flawed.
 

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Here’s what conservative politicians said about the 1993 deficit reduction legislation that raised taxes on the top 1.2% of our wealthiest citizens:



"Clearly, this is a job-killer in the short-run. The impact on job creation is going to be devastating."
—Rep. Dick Armey, (Republican, Texas)
"The tax increase will…lead to a recession…and will actually increase the deficit."

—Rep. Newt Gingrich (Republican, Georgia)
"I will make you this bet. I am willing to risk the mortgage on it…the deficit will be up; unemployment will be up; in my judgment, inflation will be up."

—Sen. Robert Packwood (Republican, Oregon)
"The deficit four years from today will be higher than it is today, not lower."

—Sen. Phil Gramm (Republican, Texas)
"The President promised a middle-class tax cut, yet he and his party imposed the largest tax increase in American history. We hope his higher taxes will not cut short the economic recovery and declining interest rates he inherited… Instead of stifling growth through higher taxes and increased government regulations, Republicans would take America in a different direction."
 

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The results were proof of the pudding.

They were dead wrong and the republicans are dead wrong now.
 

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make sure the economy doesn't improve ?? The GOP forced Clinton to cut spending and balance the budget !! Reaganomics brought in nearly 25 YRs of economic growth !!Bush inherited a recession and a terror attack that was treated as criminal actions by the previous administration instead of war and using our military intelligence and resources to fight them giving us 911 !! Bush cut taxes the economy boomed again and the military kept us safe !! these are the facts !! libbs and the community reinvestment act are the biggst causes of what we have today !! And the lefts answers are to tax and spend more !! the fact that the GOP is better for America will be realized in 2013 when we control the congress and the White House !!The contrast between conservative prosperity and liberal waste will be so shocking that the left will be crippled!!


The CBO credited the 1993 budget redcution act with the lions share of budget deficit reductions.

The 1993 budget reduction act recieved NOT ONE republican vote and Gore as VP had to come to congress and vote to get it passed.

The republican party then campaigned on the law was going to distroy America.

They were DEAD wrong and did everything they could to try and kill the bill that gave us the lions share of budget reductions.
The CBO has zero credibility. Every single prediction they have made has been wrong. Their entire methodology is flawed.
The CBO is generally fine. They make predictions based on trends and it's not their job to take into account wild deviations..like the Bush Tax cuts.

They are not soothsayers.
 

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Here’s what conservative politicians said about the 1993 deficit reduction legislation that raised taxes on the top 1.2% of our wealthiest citizens:



"Clearly, this is a job-killer in the short-run. The impact on job creation is going to be devastating."
—Rep. Dick Armey, (Republican, Texas)
"The tax increase will…lead to a recession…and will actually increase the deficit."

—Rep. Newt Gingrich (Republican, Georgia)
"I will make you this bet. I am willing to risk the mortgage on it…the deficit will be up; unemployment will be up; in my judgment, inflation will be up."

—Sen. Robert Packwood (Republican, Oregon)
"The deficit four years from today will be higher than it is today, not lower."

—Sen. Phil Gramm (Republican, Texas)
"The President promised a middle-class tax cut, yet he and his party imposed the largest tax increase in American history. We hope his higher taxes will not cut short the economic recovery and declining interest rates he inherited… Instead of stifling growth through higher taxes and increased government regulations, Republicans would take America in a different direction."
The results were proof of the pudding.

They were dead wrong and the republicans are dead wrong now.
You have a valid point, the Republicans were wrong in their projections. However, President Clinton was wrong also. He flatly rejected Bob Dole's prediction that the economy could grow 15-20% in 1997-2001. Clinton also declared "the era of big government is over." Apparently not.

Why are you bringing up the 1990s and Clinton? Clinton isn't President, there is no dot-com boom, and Clinton's success was not built on expanding the government's role in the economy. There was no stimulus under Clinton, no proposal of a second stimulus, no nationalizing of industries and private companies, and no favored companies getting special deals at the expense of the investors.

I suspect it's because of the top marginal tax rates under Clinton. If that's the case, show me how higher tax rates back then created the economic success.
 

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The CBO credited the 1993 budget redcution act with the lions share of budget deficit reductions.

The 1993 budget reduction act recieved NOT ONE republican vote and Gore as VP had to come to congress and vote to get it passed.

The republican party then campaigned on the law was going to distroy America.

They were DEAD wrong and did everything they could to try and kill the bill that gave us the lions share of budget reductions.
The CBO has zero credibility. Every single prediction they have made has been wrong. Their entire methodology is flawed.
The CBO is generally fine. They make predictions based on trends and it's not their job to take into account wild deviations..like the Bush Tax cuts.

They are not soothsayers.
EVERY prediction they have made has been wrong! They are not "generally fine," they are useless. One doesn't have to be a soothsayer to be marginally effective, but one has to at least be as correct as a broken clock to have any relevance.
 

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Fed chairman gets letter from GOP leaders: No stimulus - Sep. 21, 2011

Yup, their goal is to stiffle any economic growth before the 2012 elections. Another excellent example of their platform of "Party over Country"
Are you saying a second stimulus would improve the economy? It didn't under the first one.
Prove it didn't. This is one more example of a parrot offering a 'truth' without any proof or supporting evidence.

Define "improve"; remember, we were on the brink of collapse in January 2009 when President Obama took the oath of office. Prove, or at least make an argument sans cliches and talking points, that the UE rate would not be 15% or more if he had not passed the stimulus act?
 

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They did not stifle the economy did they?

The tax cuts did the opposite of that.

The world saw we were serious about deficit reduction and we boomed.

What the right is proposing is yet more of what Bush gave us which turned out exactly How for the country?


Its tax policy that proves your team dead wrong on their predictions of what a tax hike on these people would produce.

It proved the left dead on in what they woudl produce.

NOT once in history has tax cuts and deregulation done what the right claims it will do.

NOT ONCE!
 

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