GOP view of economy disconnected from reality

[Harpy Eagle]

Do you ever take or explain your own position instead of just commenting like a jackass?

I am fiscally on the right and socially on the left. I support smaller government and a live and let live view on life.

As there is not a side that supports either one of these things, I find myself on the outside looking in at both sides

 

[Blaster]

I am fiscally on the right and socially on the left. I support smaller government and a live and let live view on life.

LIAR.

 

[martybegan]

I am fiscally on the right and socially on the left. I support smaller government and a live and let live view on life.

As there is not a side that supports either one of these things, I find myself on the outside looking in at both sides

Theodin twit stands alone.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

We still need to consume, but people have to buy on credit or limit their consumption now because of runaway prices. You can't convince a mother of 3 that her paycheck is stretching farther now than it was when Trump was in office. Under that economic plan people even had savings accounts. Unless your name is Zelensky, you're getting the Bidenomic shaft...

Consumer spending decreases during actual bad economic times.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

yea lots of peoples experience......take your head out of your ass starsky you might see that....

Which changes nothing I posted. Most of those folks, like yourself, don’t understand the first thing about the economy.
All of the key economic indicators are strong. That means the economy is strong. What you pay at any given store is irrelevant to that fact.

“Low everyday prices” is not a constitutionally protected right.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Seriously, Hutch? Is there a bigger "indicator" of how an economy is doing than whether people can afford to buy groceries? If so, I'd LOVE to hear what that is!

See post above.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

You can’t buy groceries? Get a better job.

They can buy groceries. Just not the ones they would like to buy.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Which changes nothing I posted. Most of those folks, like yourself, don’t understand the first thing about the economy.
All of the key economic indicators are strong. That means the economy is strong. What you pay at any given store is irrelevant to that fact.

“Low everyday prices” is not a constitutionally protected right.

and of course you are the expert right?....you sound like typical dipshit.....

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The point is statistics can be used to paint a false picture by the mal-intended.

Only if you don’t know how to interpret them.

 

[skews13]

Lets see, Mortgage rates are near 8%. Gas is twice what it was when Trump was President. Food costs are up. Geeeeez!

Someone is living in La La Land!

Lets see. Trump economy, right?

• The economy lost 2.9 million jobs.
• The unemployment rate increased by 1.6 percentage points to 6.3%.
• The number of people lacking health insurance rose by 3 million.
• The federal debt held by the public went up, from $14.4 trillion to $21.6 trillion.
• Home prices rose 27.5%, and the homeownership rate increased 2.1 percentage points to 65.8%.

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[Hutch Starskey]

and of course you are the expert right?....you sound like typical dipshit.....

There is a system in place for measuring the overall economy and its constituent parts. I’m not an expert by any measure but have been trained in reading and understanding how and why it is measured the way it is and what the changes can potentially mean. That is the system by which we evaluate the state of the economic health in this country.
Not with feelings or experiences while shopping.

I agree that prices at the grocery store are ridiculous for some items but that is more of an indication that grocery chains are taking advantage rather than that the overall economy is weak.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/errolschweizer/2022/05/10/how-windfall-profits-have-supercharged-food-inflation/?sh=1382bdd66672

 

[Harry Dresden]

There is a system in place for measuring the overall economy and its constituent parts. I’m not an expert by any measure but have been trained in reading and understanding how and why it is measured the way it is and what the changes can potentially mean. That is the system by which we evaluate the state of the economic health in this country.
Not with feelings or experiences while shopping.

I agree that prices at the grocery store are ridiculous for some items but that is more of indication that grocery chains are taking advantage than that the overall economy is weak.

yea the system is whoever is president his backers will claim the economy is doing great......sorry the real measure is how the population is doing financially....if people are struggling to get by.....the economy in spite of what you are saying aint that good...

 

[Hutch Starskey]

yea the system is whoever is president his backers will claim the economy is doing great......sorry the real measure is how the population is doing financially....if people are struggling to get by.....the economy in spite of what you are saying aint that good...

It’s not. That is not true in any way.
I would bet that many of those folks on the ground doing the daily work are career folks and have served under many presidential administrations.

 

[Harry Dresden]

It’s not. That is not true in any way.
I would bet that many of those folks on the ground doing the daily work are career folks and have served under many presidential administrations.

so what?.....does that mean they are all doing great just because you say they should be?...

 

[Hutch Starskey]

so what?.....does that mean they are all doing great just because you say they should be?...

So what you are saying is that there’s no real way to know what the actual state of the economy is because no one can be trusted and they’re all probably lying?

So you just judge the state of the world by your firsthand experiences in your tiny slice of it?

 

[martybegan]

Only if you don’t know how to interpret them.

Or you present them to match your narrative, which is what the left does all the time.

 

[Harry Dresden]

So what you are saying is that there’s no real way to know what the actual state of the economy is because no one can be trusted and they’re all probably lying?

So you just judge the state of the world by your firsthand experiences in your tiny slice of it?

my tiny slice and hearing about other peoples experience in their tiny slices around the country...if we are all mostly saying the same thing ill believe the people over what the parties are saying......

 

[Oldestyle]

Which changes nothing I posted. Most of those folks, like yourself, don’t understand the first thing about the economy.
All of the key economic indicators are strong. That means the economy is strong. What you pay at any given store is irrelevant to that fact.

“Low everyday prices” is not a constitutionally protected right.

So the fact that groceries cost 20% more now than before Biden took office is "irrelevant", Hutch? Good luck selling that to the rather large percentage of the American population that lives pay check to pay check! Joe Biden and the Democrats deserve to lose in 2024 because they could care less about poor and middle class Americans. The Democrats have become the Party that cares about elites and illegals. Everyone else? They don't care about you and haven't for years!

 

[Oldestyle]

They can buy groceries. Just not the ones they would like to buy.

They just need to buy dog food and shut the hell up, right Hutch! Damn whiners! Thinking they deserve better? The nerve of them! (eye roll)

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Oh here we go, more fun with statistics. Have you ever heard the phrase "There are lies, there are damn lies, and then then there are statistics?" Do you know what that means?

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