GOP has cost US credibility when it comes to promoting freedom and free speech

[jc456]

America has always been an illusion; founded upon "liberty and freedom", along with genocide, slavery, and only wealthy land holding white males with the vote. If you can begin with that, yu can get 'em to buy into anything.

Someone seems butthurt by objective reality. Not to worry, it's reality america now.

not really until Jan 20th. but we're almost there. Don't you worry yourself now.

Looking forward to the first season of reality america, it's gonna be a great show.

I know, it's been enjoyable watching the businesses staying put in america. 25,000 jobs from IBM staying, Ford staying, GM staying Carrier staying price cut on the future AirForce one and on and on and on. wow the winning has been amazing.

 

[2aguy]

America has always been an illusion; founded upon "liberty and freedom", along with genocide, slavery, and only wealthy land holding white males with the vote. If you can begin with that, yu can get 'em to buy into anything.

Not genocide...never happened......slavery was a democrat thing, brought here from Africa and Europe and fought for by the democrat party...........and of course the lie about voting......

The best, and greatest country actually created on the idea that all men....and women, are created equal.....and fighting to make that the reality......

Only fools can't see this.......

Democrat or conservative?

You know, when your kind tries those "democrats created the KKK" threads, I always ask, "Why is the north mostly Democrats and the south mostly Confederate Republican? Did all the Democrats move north and all the Republicans move south? And no one ever, ever answers the most obvious of questions.

how does that remove the history behind the fact that the democrats created the KKK?

But you see...you can't prove that the founders who fought for the Confederacy......you know...the democrats.....had any political connections at all....even though they were military officers in the Confederacy...the democrat side of the Civil War.....and they fought against the Republicans...but of course you can't prove that Confederate officers didn't vote for the party that freed the slaves......so they hide behind this to say you can't show that democrats created the kkk...I know..it is stupid and foolish...but they are left wingers...and stupid and foolish is just what a left winger is....

 

[Skull Pilot]

How can the US promote freedom and free speech around the world when they promote voter suppression here in this country?

You can't elect a president who has said the things Trump has said and expect the world to follow your lead in promoting equality. Look at Bill O'Reilly with his recent statements about Trump protecting white power.

Under a Trump administration, this country is telling the world Russia is a role model and Putin a "good guy" and the kind of leader countries need.

So if the US isn't promoting freedom, peace, free speech and civil rights around the world, then what is the US promoting?

Since when is it our fucking job to promote free speech around the world?

 

[Claudette]

How can the US promote freedom and free speech around the world when they promote voter suppression here in this country?

You can't elect a president who has said the things Trump has said and expect the world to follow your lead in promoting equality. Look at Bill O'Reilly with his recent statements about Trump protecting white power.

Under a Trump administration, this country is telling the world Russia is a role model and Putin a "good guy" and the kind of leader countries need.

So if the US isn't promoting freedom, peace, free speech and civil rights around the world, then what is the US promoting?

Boy...you are really stupid....we have bob craemer and scott foval on video admitting that they worked for both the democrat national committee and the hilary clinton campaign......to incite violence at Trump rallies and engage in massive voter fraud, paid for and given directions by the DNC and the hilary campaign....they are on video admitting to this and laying out exactly how they did it.....and you have democrats fighting every effort to keep the vote free of cheating....

Are you this stupid for real...or do you pretend to be this stupid on the internet.

Oh they really are that stupid and sore losers to boot. LOL

 

[Fenton Lum]

How can the US promote freedom and free speech around the world when they promote voter suppression here in this country?

You can't elect a president who has said the things Trump has said and expect the world to follow your lead in promoting equality. Look at Bill O'Reilly with his recent statements about Trump protecting white power.

Under a Trump administration, this country is telling the world Russia is a role model and Putin a "good guy" and the kind of leader countries need.

So if the US isn't promoting freedom, peace, free speech and civil rights around the world, then what is the US promoting?

Since when is it our fucking job to promote free speech around the world?

Since US corporations figured out how to leverage the ruse into access to global resources and markets. Since US and Israeli arms dealers and private security firms became allies. Since govt contractors figured out how to get at public funding for bomb-rebuild-rebomb schemes. You know, shyte like that.

 

[Spare_change]

How can the US promote freedom and free speech around the world when they promote voter suppression here in this country?

You can't elect a president who has said the things Trump has said and expect the world to follow your lead in promoting equality. Look at Bill O'Reilly with his recent statements about Trump protecting white power.

Under a Trump administration, this country is telling the world Russia is a role model and Putin a "good guy" and the kind of leader countries need.

So if the US isn't promoting freedom, peace, free speech and civil rights around the world, then what is the US promoting?

Since when is it our fucking job to promote free speech around the world?

Pretty sure we accepted that responsibility in 1776.

 

[easyt65]

Barry spied on reporters, Americans, and even Congress...was only 1 of 2 US Presidents to ever use the IRS as a weapon against US citizens...sent his US AG to threaten US citizens for exercising their freedom of speech after a terrorist attack...rammed a minority piece of socialist agenda legislation down the throats of the majority of Americans who opposed it...and you are accusing the GOP....

. You can't fix 'Partisan Stupid'.

 

[Skull Pilot]

How can the US promote freedom and free speech around the world when they promote voter suppression here in this country?

You can't elect a president who has said the things Trump has said and expect the world to follow your lead in promoting equality. Look at Bill O'Reilly with his recent statements about Trump protecting white power.

Under a Trump administration, this country is telling the world Russia is a role model and Putin a "good guy" and the kind of leader countries need.

So if the US isn't promoting freedom, peace, free speech and civil rights around the world, then what is the US promoting?

Since when is it our fucking job to promote free speech around the world?

Pretty sure we accepted that responsibility in 1776.

No we were really only concerned about our country

 

[Spare_change]

How can the US promote freedom and free speech around the world when they promote voter suppression here in this country?

You can't elect a president who has said the things Trump has said and expect the world to follow your lead in promoting equality. Look at Bill O'Reilly with his recent statements about Trump protecting white power.

Under a Trump administration, this country is telling the world Russia is a role model and Putin a "good guy" and the kind of leader countries need.

So if the US isn't promoting freedom, peace, free speech and civil rights around the world, then what is the US promoting?

Since when is it our fucking job to promote free speech around the world?

Pretty sure we accepted that responsibility in 1776.

No we were really only concerned about our country

i am continually astounded at the lack of historical knowledge presented by people on this site. Didn't y'all go to school?

 

[Skull Pilot]

How can the US promote freedom and free speech around the world when they promote voter suppression here in this country?

You can't elect a president who has said the things Trump has said and expect the world to follow your lead in promoting equality. Look at Bill O'Reilly with his recent statements about Trump protecting white power.

Under a Trump administration, this country is telling the world Russia is a role model and Putin a "good guy" and the kind of leader countries need.

So if the US isn't promoting freedom, peace, free speech and civil rights around the world, then what is the US promoting?

Since when is it our fucking job to promote free speech around the world?

Pretty sure we accepted that responsibility in 1776.

No we were really only concerned about our country

i am continually astounded at the lack of historical knowledge presented by people on this site. Didn't y'all go to school?

in 1776 we had neither the ability nor the desire to get involved with the political situations in other countries. In fact we were still technically a British colony


I thought everyone knew that

To say we in 1776 took on the responsibility to bring free speech to the world is absolutely ludicrous

 

[Avatar4321]

For the sake of argument, let's accept the extremely ridiculous claim of voter suppression is absolutely true.

What the heck does that have to do with free speech let alone foreign perceptions of America's free speech? Can you cite a single foreignor overseas who knows anything about us party politics let alone about this alleged suppression? Can you cite anyone who can honestly say that our reputation has been damaged by it?

And who the heck are you to whine about free speech? You guys are leading the political correctness movement to shut down speech you don't like. You whine constantly about citizens united which overturned federal law saying the government could fine you for political speech during an election. And you used the IRS to investigate and persecute political enemies the last 8 years.

So if you want credibility on protecting free speech, you should start by cleaning up your own house you self righteous political hack

 

[Spare_change]

How can the US promote freedom and free speech around the world when they promote voter suppression here in this country?

You can't elect a president who has said the things Trump has said and expect the world to follow your lead in promoting equality. Look at Bill O'Reilly with his recent statements about Trump protecting white power.

Under a Trump administration, this country is telling the world Russia is a role model and Putin a "good guy" and the kind of leader countries need.

So if the US isn't promoting freedom, peace, free speech and civil rights around the world, then what is the US promoting?

Since when is it our fucking job to promote free speech around the world?

Pretty sure we accepted that responsibility in 1776.

No we were really only concerned about our country

i am continually astounded at the lack of historical knowledge presented by people on this site. Didn't y'all go to school?

in 1776 we had neither the ability nor the desire to get involved with the political situations in other countries. In fact we were still technically a British colony


I thought everyone knew that

To say we in 1776 took on the responsibility to bring free speech to the world is absolutely ludicrous

If you like, I will be happy to start your education of American History - it is clearly lacking.

I suggest you start with the Declaration of Independence, with particular emphasis on paragraph 2. However, you must read it in its entirety to understand the intent, and content, of paragraph 2.

When you're done with this, you should move on to the writings of Thomas Jefferson,. Although a review of the Federalist papers, The Federalist Papers Summary | GradeSaver, probably would serve you best prior to delving into Jefferson.

When you're done with all that, I suggest the following:

Why the United States Should Spread Democracy - Harvard - Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, an excellent treatise on spreading democracy from Harvard University, though not time specific.

http://www.choices.edu/about/documents/usrole_futures.pdf, and interesting discussion about the US role in the world.

If you wish to start slow, http://www.c3teachers.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/NewYork_8_American_Expansion.pdf, a NY state guide on social studies for 8th graders about expansionism.

But, please - do not bother me with one sentence pulled out of one reference, without context. Either read them all or just don't read any. In order to have an intelligent discussion, you need to have an adequate foundation.

 

[Avatar4321]

You ever notice that rdean and the Democrats are always whining about GOP voter suppression, but never seem to be able to name someone who can say "the GOP suppressed my vote"?

I don't think that is a coincidence

 

[Dschrute3]

This loony OP at their annual 'Queefers for Hillary' rally...

 

[Skull Pilot]

Since when is it our fucking job to promote free speech around the world?

Pretty sure we accepted that responsibility in 1776.

No we were really only concerned about our country

i am continually astounded at the lack of historical knowledge presented by people on this site. Didn't y'all go to school?

in 1776 we had neither the ability nor the desire to get involved with the political situations in other countries. In fact we were still technically a British colony


I thought everyone knew that

To say we in 1776 took on the responsibility to bring free speech to the world is absolutely ludicrous

If you like, I will be happy to start your education of American History - it is clearly lacking.

I suggest you start with the Declaration of Independence, with particular emphasis on paragraph 2. However, you must read it in its entirety to understand the intent, and content, of paragraph 2.

When you're done with this, you should move on to the writings of Thomas Jefferson,. Although a review of the Federalist papers, The Federalist Papers Summary | GradeSaver, probably would serve you best prior to delving into Jefferson.

When you're done with all that, I suggest the following:

Why the United States Should Spread Democracy - Harvard - Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, an excellent treatise on spreading democracy from Harvard University, though not time specific.

http://www.choices.edu/about/documents/usrole_futures.pdf, and interesting discussion about the US role in the world.

If you wish to start slow, http://www.c3teachers.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/NewYork_8_American_Expansion.pdf, a NY state guide on social studies for 8th graders about expansionism.

But, please - do not bother me with one sentence pulled out of one reference, without context. Either read them all or just don't read any. In order to have an intelligent discussion, you need to have an adequate foundation.

The day I need you to tell me what to read is the day I get a lobotomy

 

[Skull Pilot]

Pretty sure we accepted that responsibility in 1776.

No we were really only concerned about our country

i am continually astounded at the lack of historical knowledge presented by people on this site. Didn't y'all go to school?

in 1776 we had neither the ability nor the desire to get involved with the political situations in other countries. In fact we were still technically a British colony


I thought everyone knew that

To say we in 1776 took on the responsibility to bring free speech to the world is absolutely ludicrous

If you like, I will be happy to start your education of American History - it is clearly lacking.

I suggest you start with the Declaration of Independence, with particular emphasis on paragraph 2. However, you must read it in its entirety to understand the intent, and content, of paragraph 2.

When you're done with this, you should move on to the writings of Thomas Jefferson,. Although a review of the Federalist papers, The Federalist Papers Summary | GradeSaver, probably would serve you best prior to delving into Jefferson.

When you're done with all that, I suggest the following:

Why the United States Should Spread Democracy - Harvard - Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, an excellent treatise on spreading democracy from Harvard University, though not time specific.

http://www.choices.edu/about/documents/usrole_futures.pdf, and interesting discussion about the US role in the world.

If you wish to start slow, http://www.c3teachers.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/NewYork_8_American_Expansion.pdf, a NY state guide on social studies for 8th graders about expansionism.

But, please - do not bother me with one sentence pulled out of one reference, without context. Either read them all or just don't read any. In order to have an intelligent discussion, you need to have an adequate foundation.

The day I need you to tell me what to read is the day I get a lobotomy

We do not have any obligation nor responsibility to spread democracy anywhere

 

[Spare_change]

Pretty sure we accepted that responsibility in 1776.

No we were really only concerned about our country

i am continually astounded at the lack of historical knowledge presented by people on this site. Didn't y'all go to school?

in 1776 we had neither the ability nor the desire to get involved with the political situations in other countries. In fact we were still technically a British colony


I thought everyone knew that

To say we in 1776 took on the responsibility to bring free speech to the world is absolutely ludicrous

If you like, I will be happy to start your education of American History - it is clearly lacking.

I suggest you start with the Declaration of Independence, with particular emphasis on paragraph 2. However, you must read it in its entirety to understand the intent, and content, of paragraph 2.

When you're done with this, you should move on to the writings of Thomas Jefferson,. Although a review of the Federalist papers, The Federalist Papers Summary | GradeSaver, probably would serve you best prior to delving into Jefferson.

When you're done with all that, I suggest the following:

Why the United States Should Spread Democracy - Harvard - Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, an excellent treatise on spreading democracy from Harvard University, though not time specific.

http://www.choices.edu/about/documents/usrole_futures.pdf, and interesting discussion about the US role in the world.

If you wish to start slow, http://www.c3teachers.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/NewYork_8_American_Expansion.pdf, a NY state guide on social studies for 8th graders about expansionism.

But, please - do not bother me with one sentence pulled out of one reference, without context. Either read them all or just don't read any. In order to have an intelligent discussion, you need to have an adequate foundation.

The day I need you to tell me what to read is the day I get a lobotomy

Instead, you choose to live your life in blissful ignorance, coming here only to make caustic remarks in a failed attempt to revive a flagging ego.

So sad ...

 

[Spare_change]

No we were really only concerned about our country

i am continually astounded at the lack of historical knowledge presented by people on this site. Didn't y'all go to school?

in 1776 we had neither the ability nor the desire to get involved with the political situations in other countries. In fact we were still technically a British colony


I thought everyone knew that

To say we in 1776 took on the responsibility to bring free speech to the world is absolutely ludicrous

If you like, I will be happy to start your education of American History - it is clearly lacking.

I suggest you start with the Declaration of Independence, with particular emphasis on paragraph 2. However, you must read it in its entirety to understand the intent, and content, of paragraph 2.

When you're done with this, you should move on to the writings of Thomas Jefferson,. Although a review of the Federalist papers, The Federalist Papers Summary | GradeSaver, probably would serve you best prior to delving into Jefferson.

When you're done with all that, I suggest the following:

Why the United States Should Spread Democracy - Harvard - Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, an excellent treatise on spreading democracy from Harvard University, though not time specific.

http://www.choices.edu/about/documents/usrole_futures.pdf, and interesting discussion about the US role in the world.

If you wish to start slow, http://www.c3teachers.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/NewYork_8_American_Expansion.pdf, a NY state guide on social studies for 8th graders about expansionism.

But, please - do not bother me with one sentence pulled out of one reference, without context. Either read them all or just don't read any. In order to have an intelligent discussion, you need to have an adequate foundation.

The day I need you to tell me what to read is the day I get a lobotomy

We do not have any obligation nor responsibility to spread democracy anywhere

How would you KNOW?

Of, is that just what you FEEL?

So sad ...

 

[Skull Pilot]

No we were really only concerned about our country

i am continually astounded at the lack of historical knowledge presented by people on this site. Didn't y'all go to school?

in 1776 we had neither the ability nor the desire to get involved with the political situations in other countries. In fact we were still technically a British colony


I thought everyone knew that

To say we in 1776 took on the responsibility to bring free speech to the world is absolutely ludicrous

If you like, I will be happy to start your education of American History - it is clearly lacking.

I suggest you start with the Declaration of Independence, with particular emphasis on paragraph 2. However, you must read it in its entirety to understand the intent, and content, of paragraph 2.

When you're done with this, you should move on to the writings of Thomas Jefferson,. Although a review of the Federalist papers, The Federalist Papers Summary | GradeSaver, probably would serve you best prior to delving into Jefferson.

When you're done with all that, I suggest the following:

Why the United States Should Spread Democracy - Harvard - Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, an excellent treatise on spreading democracy from Harvard University, though not time specific.

http://www.choices.edu/about/documents/usrole_futures.pdf, and interesting discussion about the US role in the world.

If you wish to start slow, http://www.c3teachers.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/NewYork_8_American_Expansion.pdf, a NY state guide on social studies for 8th graders about expansionism.

But, please - do not bother me with one sentence pulled out of one reference, without context. Either read them all or just don't read any. In order to have an intelligent discussion, you need to have an adequate foundation.

The day I need you to tell me what to read is the day I get a lobotomy

Instead, you choose to live your life in blissful ignorance, coming here only to make caustic remarks in a failed attempt to revive a flagging ego.

So sad ...

SHow me the legislation that says we must spread democracy around the world.

We have no obligation to do so. Just because some people think we "should" means nothing.
Just looking at our track record of how well we spread democracy should be enough to tell you that we shouldn't be doing it

and if you think that lobotomy remark was caustic then you are far too sensitive to be here.

 

[Spare_change]

i am continually astounded at the lack of historical knowledge presented by people on this site. Didn't y'all go to school?

in 1776 we had neither the ability nor the desire to get involved with the political situations in other countries. In fact we were still technically a British colony


I thought everyone knew that

To say we in 1776 took on the responsibility to bring free speech to the world is absolutely ludicrous

If you like, I will be happy to start your education of American History - it is clearly lacking.

I suggest you start with the Declaration of Independence, with particular emphasis on paragraph 2. However, you must read it in its entirety to understand the intent, and content, of paragraph 2.

When you're done with this, you should move on to the writings of Thomas Jefferson,. Although a review of the Federalist papers, The Federalist Papers Summary | GradeSaver, probably would serve you best prior to delving into Jefferson.

When you're done with all that, I suggest the following:

Why the United States Should Spread Democracy - Harvard - Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, an excellent treatise on spreading democracy from Harvard University, though not time specific.

http://www.choices.edu/about/documents/usrole_futures.pdf, and interesting discussion about the US role in the world.

If you wish to start slow, http://www.c3teachers.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/NewYork_8_American_Expansion.pdf, a NY state guide on social studies for 8th graders about expansionism.

But, please - do not bother me with one sentence pulled out of one reference, without context. Either read them all or just don't read any. In order to have an intelligent discussion, you need to have an adequate foundation.

The day I need you to tell me what to read is the day I get a lobotomy

Instead, you choose to live your life in blissful ignorance, coming here only to make caustic remarks in a failed attempt to revive a flagging ego.

So sad ...

SHow me the legislation that says we must spread democracy around the world.

We have no obligation to do so. Just because some people think we "should" means nothing.
Just looking at our track record of how well we spread democracy should be enough to tell you that we shouldn't be doing it

and if you think that lobotomy remark was caustic then you are far too sensitive to be here.

LOL ----

"Show me the legislation, which starts with the letter T, and the fourth word is forth, and it is exactly 1251 words long, that says we must spread democracy around the world, oh, by the way, it can't be written by anybody who has an s in their name."

I win! I win!

Give me a freakin' break.