GOP could care less about jobs!

[naturegirl]

GOP could care less about jobs!

It’s not that the GOP couldn’t care less about jobs pre se, the issue is more of timing: republicans want Americans to go back to work when it’s politically advantageous to them, not Obama.



An intelligent, reasonable, and accurate post – consequently it will be lost on the right.

Citizen legislature...Term limits.

Those already exist: Congress and elections. The mechanics of government work fine, the problem is operator error.

Your response re: term limits/citizen legislature.....typical. Certain types of people are frightened of change because they feel that change will upset their little apple cart.
Yes we can elect challengers. However, we have a problem with incumbency. That goes back to my first point. People are resistant even frightful of change. And even though they are pissed at Congress they will continue to vote for the incumbent because they think if they change representatives or Senators, they will lose something.

BTW we do indeed have access to housing medical care and nutrition. Some of us just look to others to provide it to them.
We are a nation of individuals. Not a collective. We are free to choose our career path, education, etc. Problem is over the years our federal government has gone from helping the helpless to funding poor lifestyle choices. There are many people with full time jobs that have children out of wedlock, children with absentee fathers, have over spent or over extended themselves financially, have purchased homes they had no business buying, use drugs, abuse alcohol etc ad nauseum.....
No one is saying we have to behave perfectly. We all make mistakes. This is not about people taking public money for mistakes. This is about people who deliberately or willfully flout the rules of common sense or believe they are entitled to do as they wish without consequences then run to the government to bail them out of their negligence.
Here's the deal..If think people should be taken care of in the public sector, by all means feel free to take care of them.

Do you blame them?? They voted for CHANGE and look what the heck we ended up with. No, people aren't open to change often, when they take that leap and it all goes to crap do you blame them?? Term limits would do wonders for typical politics as usual.

 

[Oldstyle]

Barry had two years with a super majority and couldn't seem to get his act together.

Not true. Democrats had a super majority in numbers only. Blue Dogs kept it from being a functional super majority.

Gee, a progressive who slips up and actually admits that the Democrats HAD super majorities but couldn't pass legislation BECAUSE OF MEMBERS OF THEIR OWN PARTY! Now you've done it!

I thought it was all the fault of the Republicans? Did you forget the "script" for a second and blurt out the truth? Shame on you.

 

[Conservative]

The Congressional Budget Office

The CBO Rebuts Republican Claims About the Affordable Care Act

That explains it. They could only use approved numbers.

Hysterical. If we dont collect the money up front it will cost us. Even though it will cost twice as much as we predicted.

Notice how, when I showed that the number he claimed came from the CBO wasn't even in the report he claimed it came from, he switched tacks?

Typical liberal. Prove they didn't even bother reading past a headline, and they try to deflect and change the subject, rather than admit their abysmal failure to read their own cited sources.

and the little wanker runs away and hides

 

[taichiliberal]

So on the FIRST DAY that the Congress and Senate come back from vacation, the President wants to schedule a joint session to address them on his new proposed plan for creating jobs in America ASAP.

The President submits the formal request to the Majority Speaker of the House of Representatives....and about 4 hours later is told that ANOTHER time would be more convenient due to "security arrangement" matters and the like.

Since the early 1900's when President's started making actual visits to the House to address them, NO PRESIDENT'S REQUEST HAS EVER BEEN DENIED UNTIL NOW.

Interesting that the very political party that has been wailing for months that they are waiting for the President to present a plan for jobs in America SUDDENLY can't fit the President of the USA in for a quick address.

Now if one is to believe the GOP's favorite pundit Rush Limbaugh, Speaker Boehner rejected the initial request date in order to put Obama "in his place" and not let the President have the upper hand as taking a leadership position....especially since it would coincide with the first scheduled GOP Presidential candidacy debate.

This is just another example to the American people that the GOP is NOT about the general welfare of the people, but about the corporate welfare and secured economic greed of the wealthiest 1 to 3% of the population.

Until now, no President has had this size of deficit. Other than Carte, until now no president has presided over an economy this bad with absolutely no clue how to turn it around. GOP and the Dems BOTH ONLY care about votes. Dems had from 07 to 10 to figure out the deficit problems so enough with the "it's all because of the GOP.

Funny how you acknowledge the amazing deficit Obama has to deal with, and then you turn right around and claim he has no clue as to how to deal with it. Well, it seems that every time he tried, the GOP filibustered and stone walled....remember from 07 - 10 the Dems DID NOT HAVE THE SWING VOTES IN THE SENATE. It may not be all the GOP's fault, but they sure as hell have a lion's share of the blame.

 

[driveby]

Barry had two years with a super majority and couldn't seem to get his act together.

Not true. Democrats had a super majority in numbers only. Blue Dogs kept it from being a functional super majority.

Jesus Christ.....

 

[taichiliberal]

Does anyone really think that this country will be awash in good paying jobs once Barry finishes reading off the teleprompter?
What is the likelihood of his saying anythng that he hasn't said before that will lead to job creation?
The only think he can say that would spur the economy is:
"I've really screwed up here. I resign. I am sorry, America."

Notice that all the other good little neocon/teabagger toadies, the Rabbi doesn't acknowledge the sheer hypocrisy of Boehners actions, but instead puts forth supposition and conjecture about an address that hasn't happened yet.

******* intellectual coward, our Rabbi.

There is no hypocrisy, Einstein. No one will be helped by Obama's speech. Not one job will be created as a result of it because he will offer nothing new. This is not conjecture. This is based on his past performance and remarks on Labor Day with the union thugs. So what is one day later, or one week or one year. Commandante Zero has had 3 years to work on this problem and he's done nothing substantive other than waste money.

As you can see folks, our intellectual coward the Rabbi STILL avoids the FACTS regarding Boehner's BS, and just gives us a regurgitation of the SOS he spewed earlier that avoids the FACTS I put forth and the logic derived from them. Notice that neocon/teabagger parrots squawk the line about "he's had 3 years and done nothing", while ignoring the FACT that the GOP filibustered and stone walled EVERY SINGLE PROPOSAL BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION EVEN WHEN THEY INCORPORATED GOP IDEAS. A matter or fact and recent history that our toadie the Rabbi just can't deal with. So now the Rabbi will just bluff, bluster and stall by playing dumber than he is with a series of lies, moot points and redundant questions.....or maybe he'll get real clever and just mimic what I write and then insert my name. Let's watch.

******* intellectual coward, the Rabbi is.

 

[taichiliberal]

It's taken nearly 3 years for the President to come up with a jobs plan and yet it's the Republicans who could care less? I suppose they could care less. It's the President who couldn't care less.

Cons ran in 2010 on jobs, jobs, jobs. Yet they haven't introduced a single bill that would create jobs. They introduced a few limiting women's rights, however.

Bullshit. They introduced and passed a resolution repealing Obamacare. That would create more jobs than Obama's stimulus.

The health care reform plan puts THOUSANDS of new clients into the hands of the insurance company. Please explain to us all how repealing this creates jobs? I'll wait....and in the meantime, grow the **** up and deal with the hypocrisy of Boehner breaking nearly a century of protocal and civility by refusing the Presidents initial request for a joint session address on the FIRST day returning from vacation on a subject the GOP SCREAMED for months they needed to hear.

 

[taichiliberal]

You have got to love the TITLE the left has bestowed on the Obama.

Not only is he the President of the United States, but he is THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD

You think they would of spewed that for Bush???

good grief..

Good Grief....you are one amazingly IGNORANT woman, Stephanie. How old are you? I ask this because "leader of the free world" has been an un-official title bestowed to the Office of the President of the USA by the press since the Cold War days. Jeezus Stephanie, get your dopey ass down to the library and LEARN something!

 

[taichiliberal]

Bullshit. They introduced and passed a resolution repealing Obamacare. That would create more jobs than Obama's stimulus.

Why do you feel the need to make things up out of whole cloth?

The health care law a "job killer"? The evidence falls short

http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/rulings%2Ftom-false.gif

Note that the data showing Obamacare killed the recovery is from the Dept. of Labor.

The Heritage Foundation....yet another neocon think tank that has serious myopia when it comes to research.

Someone should clue them in that since only SOME provisions of "Obamacare" didn't go into effect until June and then September 2010, and the bulk of the provisions don't take effect until 2014 the Heritage Foundation's chart is seriously OFF!

Health Care Bill: What Does it Mean For You? Obama to Sign Bill Tuesday - ABC News

 

[taichiliberal]

IF it keeps fuckers like you and the people pictured below. You fuckers hide behind the working class and cause nothing but death and destruction. **** YOU!

WE CARE ABOUT FREEDOM AND LIBERTY!!!

Wipe the foam from your mouth and pay attention, genius. The GOP wailed for months that the President doesn't have a job plan that is desperately needed...so the President says hey, I've got one, and I would like to a joint session address to tell it to you guys before you get down to business when you come back from vacation. And in the first time in nearly a century the Speaker of the House REJECTS the Presidents initial request to reschedule.

So evidently, jobs are not that much of a priority with the GOP. Remember bunky, it was Boehner that said if maintaining the Bush tax cuts means screwing off 200,000 federal jobs created, "so be it". His words, not mines or any liberals, Dems. or Progressives.

Deal with reality and grow the **** up, Matthew.

Pure BS. The man hasnt had a plan for almost three years then suddenly he has one when something else was scheduled, like the opposition debate.

You were called out on the BS, but youre still whining like a little girl. Obama is a little ***** just like you.

Maybe this neocon/teabagger toadie was asleep during all those filibusters and stone walling tactics by the GOP for the last 3 years?

And since when does a ******* debate for candidacy (one of many) is SO much more important than a President presenting an economic plan to a joint session of Congress in the midst of a near depression state?

People like Full-Auto are shooting blanks mentally (as ususal). Boehner's bullshit further demonstrates he and his party don't give a damn about this country beyond the corporations and the 1-3% wealthy....but fools like Full-Auto just drape themselves over the nearest armchair and beg for another. Sad.

 

[taichiliberal]

Why do you feel the need to make things up out of whole cloth?

The health care law a "job killer"? The evidence falls short

http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/rulings/tom-false.gif

Note that the data showing Obamacare killed the recovery is from the Dept. of Labor.

Yes, they did. The only conclusion is that the entire movement that elected Obama is the culprit that could care less about jobs--not the GOP.

This entire thread is an exercise in projection, that is the political tool the left most often uses to take its primary fault and ascribe it to a bystander, in this case their rival, the GOP, who definitely does care about generating jobs in this country that pay for themselves, not government guaranteed jobs given to party supporters who often care so little about the people they take salaries from they let them stand in line all day for basic government services, such as paying taxes.

It's a national scandal.

What's a scandal is how neocon think tanks like the Heritage Foundation skew information to fit their narrative. However, ALL the information available shows their "projections" to be based on incorrect timelines. Observe and learn, Becki...maybe it's stop you from repeating dumb ass mantras like your last paragraph.

Health Care Bill: What Does it Mean For You? Obama to Sign Bill Tuesday - ABC News

 

[The Rabbi]

Notice that all the other good little neocon/teabagger toadies, the Rabbi doesn't acknowledge the sheer hypocrisy of Boehners actions, but instead puts forth supposition and conjecture about an address that hasn't happened yet.

******* intellectual coward, our Rabbi.

There is no hypocrisy, Einstein. No one will be helped by Obama's speech. Not one job will be created as a result of it because he will offer nothing new. This is not conjecture. This is based on his past performance and remarks on Labor Day with the union thugs. So what is one day later, or one week or one year. Commandante Zero has had 3 years to work on this problem and he's done nothing substantive other than waste money.

As you can see folks, our intellectual coward the Rabbi STILL avoids the FACTS regarding Boehner's BS, and just gives us a regurgitation of the SOS he spewed earlier that avoids the FACTS I put forth and the logic derived from them. Notice that neocon/teabagger parrots squawk the line about "he's had 3 years and done nothing", while ignoring the FACT that the GOP filibustered and stone walled EVERY SINGLE PROPOSAL BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION EVEN WHEN THEY INCORPORATED GOP IDEAS. A matter or fact and recent history that our toadie the Rabbi just can't deal with. So now the Rabbi will just bluff, bluster and stall by playing dumber than he is with a series of lies, moot points and redundant questions.....or maybe he'll get real clever and just mimic what I write and then insert my name. Let's watch.

******* intellectual coward, the Rabbi is.

TooshYLiberal, there is no hypocrisy. Obama's speech will not create a single job. Obama's programs have not created jobs. How do we know? Zero job creation.
The GOP could sit and hold its breath until it turned blue and the Dums could pass every single piece of legislation they wanted for 2 years. And they still have never dealt with the deficit, except to increase it. This FACT seems to elude you.
The FACT is that the Dums had supermajorities for 2 years and control of Congress for more than that and failed to pass legislation to avoid this downturn and failed to pass any legislation that would effectively end it and failed to pass any legislation that wasn't a sop to someone like their union thug buddies.
Those are teh FACTS, Tooshyliberal.
Obama is Commandante Zero: Zero jobs, Zero ideas.

 

[Oldstyle]

Notice that all the other good little neocon/teabagger toadies, the Rabbi doesn't acknowledge the sheer hypocrisy of Boehners actions, but instead puts forth supposition and conjecture about an address that hasn't happened yet.

******* intellectual coward, our Rabbi.

There is no hypocrisy, Einstein. No one will be helped by Obama's speech. Not one job will be created as a result of it because he will offer nothing new. This is not conjecture. This is based on his past performance and remarks on Labor Day with the union thugs. So what is one day later, or one week or one year. Commandante Zero has had 3 years to work on this problem and he's done nothing substantive other than waste money.

As you can see folks, our intellectual coward the Rabbi STILL avoids the FACTS regarding Boehner's BS, and just gives us a regurgitation of the SOS he spewed earlier that avoids the FACTS I put forth and the logic derived from them. Notice that neocon/teabagger parrots squawk the line about "he's had 3 years and done nothing", while ignoring the FACT that the GOP filibustered and stone walled EVERY SINGLE PROPOSAL BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION EVEN WHEN THEY INCORPORATED GOP IDEAS. A matter or fact and recent history that our toadie the Rabbi just can't deal with. So now the Rabbi will just bluff, bluster and stall by playing dumber than he is with a series of lies, moot points and redundant questions.....or maybe he'll get real clever and just mimic what I write and then insert my name. Let's watch.

******* intellectual coward, the Rabbi is.

I'm amazed that you're STILL trying to pretend that Barack Obama and the Democrats had huge majorities in the House and Senate plus control of the Oval Office...were able to pass something as partisan as Obama Care...yet SOMEHOW the Republicans blocked all of Obama's proposals on everything else. With all due respect, Tai? You guys are the victims of your own success in 2008. You won SO big that you have no leg to stand on when you try and blame Republicans for what didn't get done by this Administration.

I don't think anyone's buying it...

 

[Oldstyle]

Note that the data showing Obamacare killed the recovery is from the Dept. of Labor.

Yes, they did. The only conclusion is that the entire movement that elected Obama is the culprit that could care less about jobs--not the GOP.

This entire thread is an exercise in projection, that is the political tool the left most often uses to take its primary fault and ascribe it to a bystander, in this case their rival, the GOP, who definitely does care about generating jobs in this country that pay for themselves, not government guaranteed jobs given to party supporters who often care so little about the people they take salaries from they let them stand in line all day for basic government services, such as paying taxes.

It's a national scandal.

What's a scandal is how neocon think tanks like the Heritage Foundation skew information to fit their narrative. However, ALL the information available shows their "projections" to be based on incorrect timelines. Observe and learn, Becki...maybe it's stop you from repeating dumb ass mantras like your last paragraph.

Health Care Bill: What Does it Mean For You? Obama to Sign Bill Tuesday - ABC News

As for what the health care bill "means" for America? One year later health care premiums have shot up substantially and the number of uninsured people has increased dramatically. And that's before the real costs of this monstrosity of a bill kick in.

 

[Seawytch]

As for what the health care bill "means" for America? One year later health care premiums have shot up substantially and the number of uninsured people has increased dramatically. And that's before the real costs of this monstrosity of a bill kick in.

Got any links to support your claim?

As federal health reforms take effect, Aetna proposes rate cuts

 

[The Rabbi]

As for what the health care bill "means" for America? One year later health care premiums have shot up substantially and the number of uninsured people has increased dramatically. And that's before the real costs of this monstrosity of a bill kick in.

Got any links to support your claim?

As federal health reforms take effect, Aetna proposes rate cuts

You're kidding, right? The rise of premiums as a result of the mandates in Obamacare is all over the ******* news. I've seen it in my own premiums.
And if you had bothered to read your own link you would see they are talking about CT exclusively.

 

[taichiliberal]

I wish.

Their asses are seriously covered from that eventuality, I suspect.

As long as our resident partisans truly believe that it makes a difference whether COKE or PEPSI wins, then the indpendents will continue to decide based on their two essantially meaningless choices.

Forget third parties, our gerrymandered by both parties FOR BOTH PARTIES legislative process virtually insures no third party candidates can ever attain enough momentum to change CONGRESS where the changes really count.

We are captured in the political equivalent of a Kafka novel.

And the roaches in the Kafka novel are entirely too cocky, too.

I really wish that someone could get a movement started aimed at registered independents to get them to vote for the independent candidates on the ballots instead of the Rs or Ds. There are more than enough independents to get third party candidates elected.

Agreed....but that's only half the job, because remember how the Dem & GOP conspired to keep Ralph Nader from the national debates.

 

[taichiliberal]

So on the FIRST DAY that the Congress and Senate come back from vacation, the President wants to schedule a joint session to address them on his new proposed plan for creating jobs in America ASAP.

The President submits the formal request to the Majority Speaker of the House of Representatives....and about 4 hours later is told that ANOTHER time would be more convenient due to "security arrangement" matters and the like.

Since the early 1900's when President's started making actual visits to the House to address them, NO PRESIDENT'S REQUEST HAS EVER BEEN DENIED UNTIL NOW.

Interesting that the very political party that has been wailing for months that they are waiting for the President to present a plan for jobs in America SUDDENLY can't fit the President of the USA in for a quick address.

Now if one is to believe the GOP's favorite pundit Rush Limbaugh, Speaker Boehner rejected the initial request date in order to put Obama "in his place" and not let the President have the upper hand as taking a leadership position....especially since it would coincide with the first scheduled GOP Presidential candidacy debate.

This is just another example to the American people that the GOP is NOT about the general welfare of the people, but about the corporate welfare and secured economic greed of the wealthiest 1 to 3% of the population.

This President has experienced more unprecedented actions by the opposition party than any in history. More cloture's, more filibusters, more blocked appointments and more just plain douchiness than any other. No President had a member of Congress call him a liar on the floor while he was addressing them. No President has ever had the debt ceiling held hostage to ideological demands...and on and on and on.

Not even Bill Clinton, who I thought the right hated with the heat of a thousand white hot suns, had to put up with the kind of crap President Obama has had to put up with.

What is it about this President I wonder?

Yeah ok cupcake. There is an underground racial component. You exposed it!! You get a Pulitzer!
Are your excuse coffers so empty that you must roll out the race thing?
Yeah yeah yeah....I know youe "not saying".,...You're "just saying"....
Please.
Obama is being challenged/criticized because 60% of the country thinks he's doing a shitty job.
Go find something substantive to discuss.

Why don't you just go back to the maudlin exchanges among your fellow neocon/teabagger parrots and toadies? Because all you've done is IGNORE ALL THE FACTS, repeat Fox News lies and keep trying to pass off supposition and conjecture as fact.

The GOP has blocked, filibustered and stone walled EVERYTHING Obama has tried to do, then ***** about nothing is getting done. Hypocrits! They wail, "when are we going to hear a jobs plan from the President?" and when the man wants to present one, they say, "Oh sorry, it's not a convenient time as we've got candidacy debates going?"

The current GOP has held this country hostage for the Bush tax cuts and their obsession in making Obama an ineffective one term President......they don't care about YOU, and yet you gladly let them screw you over to satisfy some irrational hatred of Obama, liberals and anything you perceive as change to the establishment. Yeah, racism is just part of it....classism is the other, and you're too damned stupid and proud to deal with it.

 

[Stephanie]

You have got to love the TITLE the left has bestowed on the Obama.

Not only is he the President of the United States, but he is THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD

You think they would of spewed that for Bush???

good grief..

Good Grief....you are one amazingly IGNORANT woman, Stephanie. How old are you? I ask this because "leader of the free world" has been an un-official title bestowed to the Office of the President of the USA by the press since the Cold War days. Jeezus Stephanie, get your dopey ass down to the library and LEARN something!

Listen you little Obamabot twerp. I know the title, but it is HARDLY used when just talking ABOUT A President..What happened to WE WON GET OVER IT? Oh now the poor Obama doesn't have that super majority so he can't just WALK over the Republicans and us citizens...Now you are just a sniveling whiny bot

 

[taichiliberal]

Nearly half the people in this country are nuts. They think that 9 percent unemployment with the worst economy in the past 70 years is A thing to reelect a president on. WOW!

And beyond your worthless opinion and what the bullhorns from Fox News and neocon talk radio feed you, what PROOF do you have to support your statement here?