Good Guys With Guns

[Leo123]

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

God Bless America... our founders and the second amendment... anyone that wants to take away Americans guns hates America and Americans.

 

[JoeB131]

So you find 7 cases...

Compared to the 20,000 gun homicides, 70,000 gun injuries, 43,000 gun suicides and 400,000 gun crimes every year.

 

[Hollie]

So you find 7 cases...

Compared to the 20,000 gun homicides, 70,000 gun injuries, 43,000 gun suicides and 400,000 gun crimes every year.

Sales of firearms were setting records because leftists were enabling violent criminals while trying to crush the rights of law-abiding citizens.

Kinda' reads like leftism is its own worst enemy.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Demcorats want to make it as hard as possible for the law abiding to get guns, so as to prevent shootings like this.
Need to protect their base, see...

 

[JoeB131]

Sales of firearms were setting records because leftists were enabling violent criminals while trying to crush the rights of law-abiding citizens.

Kinda' reads like leftism is its own worst enemy.

You mean the gun industry unethically told people "Biden is going to take your guns".

Right after "Obama's gonna take your guns."

Right after "Clinton is going to take your guns".

And like most RW lies, you keep falling for it.

 

[Hollie]

You mean the gun industry unethically told people "Biden is going to take your guns".

Right after "Obama's gonna take your guns."

Right after "Clinton is going to take your guns".

And like most RW lies, you keep falling for it.

You mean right after threats from leftist hacks who told us about ''assault weapons'' bans, bans on ammunition magazines that would make thousands of commonly owned types of Firearms illegal or right after Beto O'rourke types threatened to confiscate Firearms?

That idea didn't get much traction when leftist hacks decided to support and enable violent criminals, when leftist hacks refused to prosecute criminals and when leftist hacks thought that letting career criminals loose to kill and maim the public was a good idea.

Gun sales: Best May ever, 2021 set to crush record, public ‘afraid of violence, tyranny’ - Washington Examiner

As Democrats and President Joe Biden continue to promote gun control instead of targeting those who commit violent acts, people in May continued to flood gun stores, giving the month the record for FBI background checks.The latest FBI data suggest that 2021 will be another record year for...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[Leo123]

So you find 7 cases...

Compared to the 20,000 gun homicides, 70,000 gun injuries, 43,000 gun suicides and 400,000 gun crimes every year.

It's just a sample. Besides would you rather those 7 examples resulted in the victims' deaths?

 

[2aguy]

So you find 7 cases...

Compared to the 20,000 gun homicides, 70,000 gun injuries, 43,000 gun suicides and 400,000 gun crimes every year.

The majority of gun murder victims are criminals. The majority of the remainder of gun murder victims are the family and associates of criminals.

Meanwhile, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies, murders, beatings, stabbings, mass public shootings according to the Centers for Disease Control..... and serve to keep the government from murdering us...the way the european governments murdered 15 million innocent men, women and children between 1939 and 1945...after they banned and confiscated civilian guns.

 

[JoeB131]

You mean right after threats from leftist hacks who told us about ''assault weapons'' bans, bans on ammunition magazines that would make thousands of commonly owned types of Firearms illegal or right after Beto O'rourke types threatened to confiscate Firearms?

That idea didn't get much traction when leftist hacks decided to support and enable violent criminals, when leftist hacks refused to prosecute criminals and when leftist hacks thought that letting career criminals loose to kill and maim the public was a good idea.

The idea doesn't get much traction because even though most Americans support tougher gun laws, they aren't willing to fight for them. We all get shocked when a Lanza shoots up a preschool, but then we don't follow up with actual legislation.

It's just a sample. Besides would you rather those 7 examples resulted in the victims' deaths?

A lot of those cases the person involved life wasn't in danger. The ones that were only were in danger because bad guys can get guns so easily.

But you balance the very few DGU's against the thousand of gun crimes, and it just doesn't add up.

 

[JoeB131]

The majority of gun murder victims are criminals. The majority of the remainder of gun murder victims are the family and associates of criminals.

Then you should have no problem with laws that make it a LOT harder for criminals to get guns.

Oh, wait, you do.

Background checks. - Against them.
Suing negligent gun sellers - against it.
Red flag laws - Against it.

Meanwhile, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies, murders, beatings, stabbings, mass public shootings according to the Centers for Disease Control..... and serve to keep the government from murdering us...the way the european governments murdered 15 million innocent men, women and children between 1939 and 1945...after they banned and confiscated civilian guns.

Uh, yeah, War sucks.. Not sure what your point is. People with guns didn't prevent that war, and there were plenty of guns in Europe before the war.

There are nowhere near 1.1 million DGU's.

 

[Hollie]

The idea doesn't get much traction because even though most Americans support tougher gun laws, they aren't willing to fight for them. We all get shocked when a Lanza shoots up a preschool, but then we don't follow up with actual legislation.





A lot of those cases the person involved life wasn't in danger. The ones that were only were in danger because bad guys can get guns so easily.

But you balance the very few DGU's against the thousand of gun crimes, and it just doesn't add up.

The idea doesn't get much traction here because people generally see the dangers associated with leftists / socialists who want to strip away Constitutional rights.

People see the dangers of leftists / socialists enabling criminals and turning those criminals loose on the public while those leftists / socialists have decided that the public deserves to be brutalized.

 

[2aguy]

Then you should have no problem with laws that make it a LOT harder for criminals to get guns.

Oh, wait, you do.

Background checks. - Against them.
Suing negligent gun sellers - against it.
Red flag laws - Against it.




Uh, yeah, War sucks.. Not sure what your point is. People with guns didn't prevent that war, and there were plenty of guns in Europe before the war.

There are nowhere near 1.1 million DGU's.

Background checks don't stop criminals, they make it harder for normal people to get guns.

Suing people who committed no crime? Really?

Red flag laws that you will use to target normal gun owners while actual criminals roam free?

Sell that crap to biden voters.

 

[2aguy]

Then you should have no problem with laws that make it a LOT harder for criminals to get guns.

Oh, wait, you do.

Background checks. - Against them.
Suing negligent gun sellers - against it.
Red flag laws - Against it.




Uh, yeah, War sucks.. Not sure what your point is. People with guns didn't prevent that war, and there were plenty of guns in Europe before the war.

There are nowhere near 1.1 million DGU's.

The 15 million were not killed in war activities, they were rounded up and murdered, by the governments of Europe under socialist occupation.

 

[JoeB131]

The idea doesn't get much traction here because people generally see the dangers associated with leftists / socialists who want to strip away Constitutional rights.

People see the dangers of leftists / socialists enabling criminals and turning those criminals loose on the public while those leftists / socialists have decided that the public deserves to be brutalized.

Most Americans want tougher gun laws. That number would be higher if Americans realized how lax our gun laws are.

AP-NORC poll: Most in US say they want stricter gun laws

Most U.S. adults want to see gun laws made stricter and think gun violence is increasing nationwide.

apnews.com

The poll by the University of Chicago Harris School of Public Policy and The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research shows 71% of Americans say gun laws should be stricter, including about half of Republicans, the vast majority of Democrats and a majority of those in gun-owning households.

The poll was conducted between July 28 and Aug. 1, after a string of deadly mass shootings — from a New York grocery store to a school in Texas and a July 4 parade in Illinois — and a 2020 spike in gun killings that have increased attention on the issue of gun violence. Overall, 8 in 10 Americans perceive that gun violence is increasing around the country, and about two-thirds say it’s increasing in their state, though less than half believe it’s increasing in their community, the poll shows.

Background checks don't stop criminals, they make it harder for normal people to get guns.

Hard core ammosexuals like you aren't "normal". Normal people would have no problem with background checks because they'd come up clean.

I compare the $11.00 application for a FOID Card compared to the practical economic colonoscopy I got when I applied for a mortgage on my Condo.

Understandable. The banks lost a lot of money when the housing market collapsed in 2008, and they want to make sure I was good for the loan.

The gun industry isn't interested in only "normal" people getting guns... Because once you take out the fear of crime, most people sensibly wouldn't want one in their house.

So the gun industry has a vested interest in bad guys getting guns.

Suing people who committed no crime? Really?

Civil liability is separate from crime, dude. You can be sued civilly for negligence without having committed a crime.

Red flag laws that you will use to target normal gun owners while actual criminals roam free?

No, it's protect victims of domestic violence... like this lady.

Days after getting restraining order, woman shot dead by her child's father in Avondale: JPSO

Ronnika Richburg went to court and obtained a restraining order last week in an attempt to protect herself from the father of her child, records show.

www.nola.com

and this lady...

Victim asked twice for protection orders against man accused of killing her, her daughter

Lindsay Daum tried to ban Javier Acevedo from having a gun. A court in Larimer County denied a permanent protection order twice.

www.9news.com

 

[JoeB131]

The 15 million were not killed in war activities, they were rounded up and murdered, by the governments of Europe under socialist occupation.

Which wouldn't have happened if there wasn't a war.

 

[beautress]

So you find 7 cases...

Compared to the 20,000 gun homicides, 70,000 gun injuries, 43,000 gun suicides and 400,000 gun crimes every year.

The fentynal peddlers who are gaily abusing the open border are murdering 120,000 of people per annum, ages prebirth - 49.
That would end if we re-elect President Trump only this time sans mules and sans bad voting policies based on favoritism.
Do youthful people born in America matter? Because thrice the thousands more die of fentanyl poisoning than gun suicides.

 

[JoeB131]

The fentynal peddlers who are gaily abusing the open border are murdering 120,000 of people per annum, ages prebirth - 49.
That would end if we re-elect President Trump only this time sans mules and sans bad voting policies based on favoritism.
Do youthful people born in America matter? Because thrice the thousands more die of fentanyl poisoning than gun suicides.

Hey, we should apply the same rules to fentanyl that we do to guns...
Nobody dies of fentanyl unless they openly choose to take fentanyl... sounds like a personal problem to me.

 

[Hollie]

Most Americans want tougher gun laws. That number would be higher if Americans realized how lax our gun laws are.

AP-NORC poll: Most in US say they want stricter gun laws

Most U.S. adults want to see gun laws made stricter and think gun violence is increasing nationwide.

apnews.com

The poll by the University of Chicago Harris School of Public Policy and The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research shows 71% of Americans say gun laws should be stricter, including about half of Republicans, the vast majority of Democrats and a majority of those in gun-owning households.

The poll was conducted between July 28 and Aug. 1, after a string of deadly mass shootings — from a New York grocery store to a school in Texas and a July 4 parade in Illinois — and a 2020 spike in gun killings that have increased attention on the issue of gun violence. Overall, 8 in 10 Americans perceive that gun violence is increasing around the country, and about two-thirds say it’s increasing in their state, though less than half believe it’s increasing in their community, the poll shows.



Hard core ammosexuals like you aren't "normal". Normal people would have no problem with background checks because they'd come up clean.

I compare the $11.00 application for a FOID Card compared to the practical economic colonoscopy I got when I applied for a mortgage on my Condo.

Understandable. The banks lost a lot of money when the housing market collapsed in 2008, and they want to make sure I was good for the loan.

The gun industry isn't interested in only "normal" people getting guns... Because once you take out the fear of crime, most people sensibly wouldn't want one in their house.

So the gun industry has a vested interest in bad guys getting guns.



Civil liability is separate from crime, dude. You can be sued civilly for negligence without having committed a crime.



No, it's protect victims of domestic violence... like this lady.

Days after getting restraining order, woman shot dead by her child's father in Avondale: JPSO

Ronnika Richburg went to court and obtained a restraining order last week in an attempt to protect herself from the father of her child, records show.

www.nola.com

and this lady...

Victim asked twice for protection orders against man accused of killing her, her daughter

Lindsay Daum tried to ban Javier Acevedo from having a gun. A court in Larimer County denied a permanent protection order twice.

www.9news.com

Strange, that. Amidst the leftist defund the police, enable the criminals and promote crime policies, Americans have been buying guns at record setting rates due to the leftisexual fascination with promoting crime.

More gun laws are useless when leftists don't enforce laws. That, of course, is the leftist agenda. They want a disarmed population in furtherance of the socialist / communist regimes of the 20th century and the damage those regimes brought to their populations.

Leftist gun laws are intended to crush the law abiding population. Leftists aren't stopping the weekly killings taking place in the Lori Lightfoot dystopia, for just one example. Criminals with Firearms are a leftisexual fetish.

 

[beautress]

Hey, we should apply the same rules to fentanyl that we do to guns...
Nobody dies of fentanyl unless they openly choose to take fentanyl... sounds like a personal problem to me.

When the number rises because Great Pretender Biden gets paid back by the Drug Cartels through the foreign aid department of the Corrupt House that takes from the taxpayers and gives to the filthy greedy rich who work for China and pretend they are "normal." <barf>

I do have a problem with corruption that creeps brag on and hand out "I destroyed Trump" gold pens for lying their naughty butts off.