Gonzalo Lira Journalist And US Citizen Dies In Ukrainian Custody

[Ringo]

 

[Deadstick]

Maybe he was.

Let's look at what he wrote

https://www.wsj.com/articles/putin-russia-ukraine-war-advisers-11671815184

"Putin, Isolated and Distrustful, Leans on Handful of Hard-Line Advisers"

"Russia’s president built a power structure designed to deliver him the information he wants to hear, feeding into his miscalculations on the Ukraine war
MOSCOW—Russian troops were losing the battle for Lyman, a small city in eastern Ukraine, in late September when a call came in for the commanding officer on the front line, over an encrypted line from Moscow.

It was Vladimir Putin, ordering them not to retreat.

The president seemed to have limited understanding of the reality of the situation, according to current and former U.S. and European officials and a former senior Russian intelligence officer briefed on the exchange. His poorly equipped front-line troops were being encircled by a Ukrainian advance backed by artillery provided by the West. Mr. Putin rebuffed his own generals’ commands and told the troops to hold firm, they said."

Not very flattering of Putin, is it?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-ukraine-kazakhstan-central-asia-11658439761

"Putin’s Unexpected Challenge: Snubs From His Central Asian Allies"

"Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has Kazakhstan and its neighbors rethinking alliances and reaching out to the U.S."

Also people think he might have been arrested to give Russia someone to swap in a prisoner exchange.

The sort of shit that Putin would do.

As for being a spy, any evidence? "Russian officials claimed he was collecting secrets on the "production and repair of military equipment" for the CIA."

Right, and how was he doing that?

Still no answer to why Russia allows SKY and the BBC to run riot all over Russia and we don't let RT or Sputnik to report from our Countries?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Still no answer to why Russia allows SKY and the BBC to run riot all over Russia and we don't let RT or Sputnik to report from our Countries?

Still no evidence that the BBC or Sky do whatever they want in Russia. Just being there doesn't prove anything.

 

[Deadstick]

Still no evidence that the BBC or Sky do whatever they want in Russia. Just being there doesn't prove anything.

Well it does, it proves SKY and the BBC put out their propaganda from Moscow and Russia and are allowed to, here is the SKY news ***** doing just that, and the BBC man talking bollocks from Russia.

steve Rosenberg talking to russian people in moscow - Search Videos

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Putin putting the BBC scumbag Rosenberg in his place he made the point about Yeltsin i have made many times.

Watch BBC's Steve Rosenberg challenge Putin on his 25 years in power in Russia

Russian President Vladimir Putin was speaking at an annual end-of-year press conference.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[frigidweirdo]

Well it does, it proves SKY and the BBC put out their propaganda from Moscow and Russia and are allowed to, here is the SKY news ***** doing just that, and the BBC man talking bollocks from Russia.

steve Rosenberg talking to russian people in moscow - Search Videos

Watch videos instantly on Bing—enjoy direct playback, discover related clips, and dive into trending content all in one place.

www.bing.com

Putin putting the BBC scumbag Rosenberg in his place he made the point about Yeltsin i have made many times.

Watch BBC's Steve Rosenberg challenge Putin on his 25 years in power in Russia

Russian President Vladimir Putin was speaking at an annual end-of-year press conference.

www.bbc.co.uk

Wow, you actually posted something. First time for everything, hey?

Now all you need to do is prove that all Russian reporters and media outlets have been banned from the UK.

 

[Deadstick]

Wow, you actually posted something. First time for everything, hey?

Now all you need to do is prove that all Russian reporters and media outlets have been banned from the UK.

The evidence is there

Wow, you actually posted something. First time for everything, hey?

Now all you need to do is prove that all Russian reporters and media outlets have been banned from the UK.

what are you talking about i posted something for the first time? i just blew your nonsense out of the water by pointing out Western media are still operating in Russia, RT was banned in the UK and many other Countries including the US and many other Russian media outlets, the bottom line is like all fascists they close down any alternative narrative that should be a worry for anyone they could come after you next.

RT UK - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[frigidweirdo]

The evidence is there

what are you talking about i posted something for the first time? i just blew your nonsense out of the water by pointing out Western media are still operating in Russia, RT was banned in the UK and many other Countries including the US and many other Russian media outlets, the bottom line is like all fascists they close down any alternative narrative that should be a worry for anyone they could come after you next.

RT UK - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If you think you're blowing anything out of the water.... you might want to reconsider. What you think you're doing, and what is actually happening, are two very different things.

 

[Deadstick]

If you think you're blowing anything out of the water.... you might want to reconsider. What you think you're doing, and what is actually happening, are two very different things.

I don't think so, you are one of those who say Russia invaded Donbass in 2014 i am saying that is bollocks and i proved it and i proved Western Media have free run in Russia those vids prove it.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I don't think so, you are one of those who say Russia invaded Donbass in 2014 i am saying that is bollocks and i proved it and i proved Western Media have free run in Russia those vids prove it.

Your definition of "proved" seems to be "I said it". You've posted few, to almost zero pieces of evidence on here. It's not your style. You can't prove anything without evidence.

 

[Deadstick]

Your definition of "proved" seems to be "I said it". You've posted few, to almost zero pieces of evidence on here. It's not your style. You can't prove anything without evidence.

The facts will never be enough for those in denial, i posted vids from two big battles at the time no Russians involved.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The facts will never be enough for those in denial, i posted vids from two big battles at the time no Russians involved.

Oh please. You posted videos. I'm thinking you don't understand how to make an argument.

 

[Deadstick]

Oh please. You posted videos. I'm thinking you don't understand how to make an argument.

What was the content of those vids ? also you can't prove Russian troops invaded Donbass in 2014 because that is the bullshit you Ukrainian apologists have been spinning since then, one vid i posted was when Russia went into Georgia in 2008, that is what an invasion looks like, have you seen that with Ukraine in 2014?

 

[frigidweirdo]

What was the content of those vids ? also you can't prove Russian troops invaded Donbass in 2014 because that is the bullshit you Ukrainian apologists have been spinning since then, one vid i posted was when Russia went into Georgia in 2008, that is what an invasion looks like, have you seen that with Ukraine in 2014?

It doesn't matter what the content of those videos was. A video is not going to be that good evidence to build a case for anything. I'm sorry you don't know how to make a decent argument.

 

[Deadstick]

It doesn't matter what the content of those videos was. A video is not going to be that good evidence to build a case for anything. I'm sorry you don't know how to make a decent argument.

Of course it does, those vids were of the fighting in 2014/15 and the MSM have been telling us for years those guys were part of a Russian invasion of Donbass in 2014 which was a lie, most were local guys who were from there, these Ukrainian Fascsists were unlucky enough to be taken prisoner and live after what they had done shelling civilians in Donetsk, they were captured by Donbass Militia not regular Russian troops.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Of course it does, those vids were of the fighting in 2014/15 and the MSM have been telling us for years those guys were part of a Russian invasion of Donbass in 2014 which was a lie, most were local guys who were from there, these Ukrainian Fascsists were unlucky enough to be taken prisoner and live after what they had done shelling civilians in Donetsk, they were captured by Donbass Militia not regular Russian troops.

Nope. This isn't a discussion. This is me telling you that this is not how you make an argument. You don't have to listen. You can go around this forum pretending that you're making a good argument and everyone ignoring you because A) your argument sucks or B) because they're idiots who can't read more than three words in a row without getting headaches or a heart attack. That's fine.

But I'm not going to keep banging my head against the wall seeing you make shit arguments that aren't interesting.

s'up to you.

 

[Ringo]

 

[Deadstick]

The

Ukrainian gestapo murdered that US Citizen and Genocide Joe did nothing about it.