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Sanders points to Denmark and Norway as successful examples of democratic socialism.

College tuition is free is Denmark and Norway.

Tuition Fees & Scholarships

Tuition-Free Universities in Finland, Norway and Germany in 2020 - MastersPortal.com

They also have socialized medicine in Norway and Denmark.

Healthcare in Norway - Wikipedia

Healthcare in Denmark - Wikipedia
And look what they charge in % their poorest citizens.

Once you agree with this, we are both on the same page. As long as America KNOWS what it is voting for, then I accept your support, and everyone else that supports BERNARD!
I do not support Sanders. At all.

If Sanders is the nominee, Trump will be re-elected. And I hate Trump more than any president in my lifetime.

Then you will be happy to know, that many of us in the GOP are redoing our party affiliation to give you BERNARD!

We figure after the way you treated our lawful President for the last 3 years, it is the LEAST we can do for your side of the aisle-)
 

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Going Galt?
Heh. See my signature for a textbook example of the pseudocon hypocrisy I have been pointing out for over a decade.
While reality SUCKS-------> Nevada and from here forward until BERNARD wins the Dem nomination, 20 to 25% of his primary vote, is GOP-)

Thank us, cause your side DESERVES it!
 

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I hear a lot of talk amongst conservatives of wanting to pull out of the market if Bernie is elected.

Does anyone else hear these things and if they did, what would happen?

Personally I'm not sure I believe them much like I did not believe those who said they would leave the US if Trump was elected, but then again, what future does their money have in a market that is targeted for destruction under socialism?
I will and am at this moment, lowering my positions and moving more towards cash. I would rather lose the decent upswing in funds if Trump gets re-elected, then take the massive losses of leaving my positions on the board should Bernie prevail.

And, the truth is------------>it will be a global downturn dragged by the USA, as the world comes to the realization that the products it used to sell here will drop, because less people will be able to afford them.
By cash I hope you don't mean us dollars because if the commies do somehow manage to take over that won't even make good ass wipe. Look at what they did to their currency in Venezuela. They'll have the printing presses running non stop 24-7 in order to finance their cockamamie bullshit of free shit for everyone.
 

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Sweden also has universal health care: Health care in Sweden - Wikipedia

College tuition is also free in Sweden.


So when it comes to the central planks of Bernie Sanders's platform, Sweden and Denmark and Norway are examples of the success of his policies.

Not Venezuela.
Again, as long as we agree how they tax their POOREST citizens, while actually having LESS taxes on their businesses, we can agree on BERNARDS views of what needs to be done!
Corporate Tax Rate in Norway averaged 33.62 percent from 1981 until 2020, reaching an all time high of 50.80 percent in 1982 and a record low of 22 percent in 2019.
Norway Corporate Tax Rate | 1981-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Calendar

Personal Income Tax Rate in Norway averaged 46.41 percent from 1995 until 2020, reaching an all time high of 55.30 percent in 2003 and a record low of 38.20 percent in 2019.
Norway Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Calendar


As for how Norway taxes their poorest:
For personal income between NOK 254,500 and NOK 639,750, the bracket tax rate is 4.2%. For personal income between NOK 639,750 and NOK 999,550, the bracket tax rate is 13.2%. Personal income exceeding NOK 999,550 is subject to a bracket tax of 16.2%.
Norway - Taxes on personal income




The corporate tax rate in Denmark is 22%, placing Denmark below the average OECD and EU level. Uniquely among the Nordic countries, Denmark has no double taxation for Danish companies with branches abroad.

Taxation in Denmark - below EU and OECD tax levels

Personal Income Tax Rate in Denmark averaged 60.45 percent from 1995 until 2018, reaching an all time high of 65.90 percent in 1997 and a record low of 55.40 percent in 2010.
Denmark Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2018 Data | 2019-2020 Forecast | Calendar

As for how Denmark taxes its poorest:
The state (i.e., national) income tax has two income brackets (bottom and top). In 2019 income above DKK 46,200 is taxed at 12.16% (bottom-bracket rate), and income above DKK 513,400 is taxed an additional 15% (top-bracket rate).
Taxation in Denmark - Wikipedia



The corporate tax rate in Sweden is 22 percent, below the OECD average of 23.9 percent. The tax code also allows companies to be taxed on their average profitability by allowing net operating losses to be carried forward indefinitely.
Sweden is Competitive in Spite of a High Tax Burden | Tax Foundation


Personal Income Tax Rate in Sweden is expected to reach 57.20 percent by the end of 2020, according to Trading Economics global macro models and analysts expectations. In the long-term, the Sweden Personal Income Tax Rate is projected to trend around 57.20 percent in 2021, according to our econometric models.
Sweden Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Calendar

As for how Sweden taxes its poorest:
Sweden has a progressive income tax, the general rates for 2018 are as follows (based on yearly incomes):
...

Income tax



  • 0% from 0 kronor to 20,008 kronor.
  • Circa 32% (ca. ...
  • 32% + 20%: from 468,700 kronor to 675,700 kronor.
  • 32% + 25%: above 675,700 kronor (prior to 2020)
Taxation in Sweden - Wikipedia
 

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I hear a lot of talk amongst conservatives of wanting to pull out of the market if Bernie is elected.

Does anyone else hear these things and if they did, what would happen?

Personally I'm not sure I believe them much like I did not believe those who said they would leave the US if Trump was elected, but then again, what future does their money have in a market that is targeted for destruction under socialism?
I will and am at this moment, lowering my positions and moving more towards cash. I would rather lose the decent upswing in funds if Trump gets re-elected, then take the massive losses of leaving my positions on the board should Bernie prevail.

And, the truth is------------>it will be a global downturn dragged by the USA, as the world comes to the realization that the products it used to sell here will drop, because less people will be able to afford them.
By cash I hope you don't mean us dollars because if the commies do somehow manage to take over that won't even make good ass wipe. Look at what they did to their currency in Venezuela. They'll have the printing presses running non stop 24-7 in order to finance their cockamamie bullshit of free shit for everyone.
No, 35% gold, because if BERNARD gets elected, the worlds reserve currency will be changed, and you know exactly what that means.

Now some will say that 35% is to low, and you are probably correct. But I believe that if BERNARD gets the nomination, Trump is going to hose them pretty well, so converting more would be a net loss.

Hey, I gotta vote the way I believe not only with my ballot, but with my money too!
 

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I hear a lot of talk amongst conservatives of wanting to pull out of the market if Bernie is elected.

Does anyone else hear these things and if they did, what would happen?

Personally I'm not sure I believe them much like I did not believe those who said they would leave the US if Trump was elected, but then again, what future does their money have in a market that is targeted for destruction under socialism?
Regular people having more discretionary income would stimulate the economy more than giving people that already have enough money more money.
Why Bernie could be the stock market's best friend.
LMAO! Where the hell has communism ever resulted in people having more money?
 

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In addition to their corporate and personal income taxes, Sweden, Denmark, and Norway all have the EU's 25% VAT piled on top.
 

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Sweden also has universal health care: Health care in Sweden - Wikipedia

College tuition is also free in Sweden.


So when it comes to the central planks of Bernie Sanders's platform, Sweden and Denmark and Norway are examples of the success of his policies.

Not Venezuela.
Again, as long as we agree how they tax their POOREST citizens, while actually having LESS taxes on their businesses, we can agree on BERNARDS views of what needs to be done!
Corporate Tax Rate in Norway averaged 33.62 percent from 1981 until 2020, reaching an all time high of 50.80 percent in 1982 and a record low of 22 percent in 2019.
Norway Corporate Tax Rate | 1981-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Calendar

Personal Income Tax Rate in Norway averaged 46.41 percent from 1995 until 2020, reaching an all time high of 55.30 percent in 2003 and a record low of 38.20 percent in 2019.
Norway Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Calendar


As for how Norway taxes their poorest:
For personal income between NOK 254,500 and NOK 639,750, the bracket tax rate is 4.2%. For personal income between NOK 639,750 and NOK 999,550, the bracket tax rate is 13.2%. Personal income exceeding NOK 999,550 is subject to a bracket tax of 16.2%.
Norway - Taxes on personal income




The corporate tax rate in Denmark is 22%, placing Denmark below the average OECD and EU level. Uniquely among the Nordic countries, Denmark has no double taxation for Danish companies with branches abroad.

Taxation in Denmark - below EU and OECD tax levels

Personal Income Tax Rate in Denmark averaged 60.45 percent from 1995 until 2018, reaching an all time high of 65.90 percent in 1997 and a record low of 55.40 percent in 2010.
Denmark Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2018 Data | 2019-2020 Forecast | Calendar

As for how Denmark taxes its poorest:
The state (i.e., national) income tax has two income brackets (bottom and top). In 2019 income above DKK 46,200 is taxed at 12.16% (bottom-bracket rate), and income above DKK 513,400 is taxed an additional 15% (top-bracket rate).
Taxation in Denmark - Wikipedia



The corporate tax rate in Sweden is 22 percent, below the OECD average of 23.9 percent. The tax code also allows companies to be taxed on their average profitability by allowing net operating losses to be carried forward indefinitely.
Sweden is Competitive in Spite of a High Tax Burden | Tax Foundation


Personal Income Tax Rate in Sweden is expected to reach 57.20 percent by the end of 2020, according to Trading Economics global macro models and analysts expectations. In the long-term, the Sweden Personal Income Tax Rate is projected to trend around 57.20 percent in 2021, according to our econometric models.
Sweden Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Calendar

As for how Sweden taxes its poorest:
Sweden has a progressive income tax, the general rates for 2018 are as follows (based on yearly incomes):
...

Income tax






    • 0% from 0 kronor to 20,008 kronor.



    • Circa 32% (ca. ...



    • 32% + 20%: from 468,700 kronor to 675,700 kronor.



    • 32% + 25%: above 675,700 kronor (prior to 2020)
Taxation in Sweden - Wikipedia
Your numbers are all well and good, especially when you consider that to survive, they LOWERED their tax rates. Pretty informative, yes!

But one thing you didn't add in was the VAT-) And the VAT hits consumers the hardest, and has NOTHING to do with the tax rates.

Since I didn't follow your links, maybe they did INCLUDE the VAT, but if they didn't, it kinda skews your tax rate inclusion, doesn't it!
 

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Sanders points to Denmark and Norway as successful examples of democratic socialism.

College tuition is free is Denmark and Norway.

Tuition Fees & Scholarships

Tuition-Free Universities in Finland, Norway and Germany in 2020 - MastersPortal.com

They also have socialized medicine in Norway and Denmark.

Healthcare in Norway - Wikipedia

Healthcare in Denmark - Wikipedia
Neither Denmark or Norway are socialist countries.

OK, tell me, what do you think is the reason that most European countries have government controlled healthcare? Is it because it "better" or because of something else?
 

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Sweden also has universal health care: Health care in Sweden - Wikipedia

College tuition is also free in Sweden.


So when it comes to the central planks of Bernie Sanders's platform, Sweden and Denmark and Norway are examples of the success of his policies.

Not Venezuela.
Again, as long as we agree how they tax their POOREST citizens, while actually having LESS taxes on their businesses, we can agree on BERNARDS views of what needs to be done!
Corporate Tax Rate in Norway averaged 33.62 percent from 1981 until 2020, reaching an all time high of 50.80 percent in 1982 and a record low of 22 percent in 2019.
Norway Corporate Tax Rate | 1981-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Calendar

Personal Income Tax Rate in Norway averaged 46.41 percent from 1995 until 2020, reaching an all time high of 55.30 percent in 2003 and a record low of 38.20 percent in 2019.
Norway Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Calendar


As for how Norway taxes their poorest:
For personal income between NOK 254,500 and NOK 639,750, the bracket tax rate is 4.2%. For personal income between NOK 639,750 and NOK 999,550, the bracket tax rate is 13.2%. Personal income exceeding NOK 999,550 is subject to a bracket tax of 16.2%.
Norway - Taxes on personal income




The corporate tax rate in Denmark is 22%, placing Denmark below the average OECD and EU level. Uniquely among the Nordic countries, Denmark has no double taxation for Danish companies with branches abroad.

Taxation in Denmark - below EU and OECD tax levels

Personal Income Tax Rate in Denmark averaged 60.45 percent from 1995 until 2018, reaching an all time high of 65.90 percent in 1997 and a record low of 55.40 percent in 2010.
Denmark Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2018 Data | 2019-2020 Forecast | Calendar

As for how Denmark taxes its poorest:
The state (i.e., national) income tax has two income brackets (bottom and top). In 2019 income above DKK 46,200 is taxed at 12.16% (bottom-bracket rate), and income above DKK 513,400 is taxed an additional 15% (top-bracket rate).
Taxation in Denmark - Wikipedia



The corporate tax rate in Sweden is 22 percent, below the OECD average of 23.9 percent. The tax code also allows companies to be taxed on their average profitability by allowing net operating losses to be carried forward indefinitely.
Sweden is Competitive in Spite of a High Tax Burden | Tax Foundation


Personal Income Tax Rate in Sweden is expected to reach 57.20 percent by the end of 2020, according to Trading Economics global macro models and analysts expectations. In the long-term, the Sweden Personal Income Tax Rate is projected to trend around 57.20 percent in 2021, according to our econometric models.
Sweden Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Calendar

As for how Sweden taxes its poorest:
Sweden has a progressive income tax, the general rates for 2018 are as follows (based on yearly incomes):
...

Income tax






    • 0% from 0 kronor to 20,008 kronor.



    • Circa 32% (ca. ...



    • 32% + 20%: from 468,700 kronor to 675,700 kronor.



    • 32% + 25%: above 675,700 kronor (prior to 2020)
Taxation in Sweden - Wikipedia
Your numbers are all well and good, especially when you consider that to survive, they LOWERED their tax rates. Pretty informative, yes!

But one thing you didn't add in was the VAT-) And the VAT hits consumers the hardest, and has NOTHING to do with the tax rates.

Since I didn't follow your links, maybe they did INCLUDE the VAT, but if they didn't, it kinda skews your tax rate inclusion, doesn't it!
See post 28. ;)
 

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Sanders points to Denmark and Norway as successful examples of democratic socialism.

College tuition is free is Denmark and Norway.

Tuition Fees & Scholarships

Tuition-Free Universities in Finland, Norway and Germany in 2020 - MastersPortal.com

They also have socialized medicine in Norway and Denmark.

Healthcare in Norway - Wikipedia

Healthcare in Denmark - Wikipedia
Neither Denmark or Norway are socialist countries.
That does not matter. What matters is that they have the policies Sanders wants. Free college, universal healthcare.

And they have not turned into Venezuela.
 

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I hear a lot of talk amongst conservatives of wanting to pull out of the market if Bernie is elected.

Does anyone else hear these things and if they did, what would happen?

Personally I'm not sure I believe them much like I did not believe those who said they would leave the US if Trump was elected, but then again, what future does their money have in a market that is targeted for destruction under socialism?
Regular people having more discretionary income would stimulate the economy more than giving people that already have enough money more money.
Why Bernie could be the stock market's best friend.
Can’t get any better Comradese than that.
 

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Sweden also has universal health care: Health care in Sweden - Wikipedia

College tuition is also free in Sweden.


So when it comes to the central planks of Bernie Sanders's platform, Sweden and Denmark and Norway are examples of the success of his policies.

Not Venezuela.
Again, as long as we agree how they tax their POOREST citizens, while actually having LESS taxes on their businesses, we can agree on BERNARDS views of what needs to be done!
Corporate Tax Rate in Norway averaged 33.62 percent from 1981 until 2020, reaching an all time high of 50.80 percent in 1982 and a record low of 22 percent in 2019.
Norway Corporate Tax Rate | 1981-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Calendar

Personal Income Tax Rate in Norway averaged 46.41 percent from 1995 until 2020, reaching an all time high of 55.30 percent in 2003 and a record low of 38.20 percent in 2019.
Norway Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Calendar


As for how Norway taxes their poorest:
For personal income between NOK 254,500 and NOK 639,750, the bracket tax rate is 4.2%. For personal income between NOK 639,750 and NOK 999,550, the bracket tax rate is 13.2%. Personal income exceeding NOK 999,550 is subject to a bracket tax of 16.2%.
Norway - Taxes on personal income




The corporate tax rate in Denmark is 22%, placing Denmark below the average OECD and EU level. Uniquely among the Nordic countries, Denmark has no double taxation for Danish companies with branches abroad.

Taxation in Denmark - below EU and OECD tax levels

Personal Income Tax Rate in Denmark averaged 60.45 percent from 1995 until 2018, reaching an all time high of 65.90 percent in 1997 and a record low of 55.40 percent in 2010.
Denmark Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2018 Data | 2019-2020 Forecast | Calendar

As for how Denmark taxes its poorest:
The state (i.e., national) income tax has two income brackets (bottom and top). In 2019 income above DKK 46,200 is taxed at 12.16% (bottom-bracket rate), and income above DKK 513,400 is taxed an additional 15% (top-bracket rate).
Taxation in Denmark - Wikipedia



The corporate tax rate in Sweden is 22 percent, below the OECD average of 23.9 percent. The tax code also allows companies to be taxed on their average profitability by allowing net operating losses to be carried forward indefinitely.
Sweden is Competitive in Spite of a High Tax Burden | Tax Foundation


Personal Income Tax Rate in Sweden is expected to reach 57.20 percent by the end of 2020, according to Trading Economics global macro models and analysts expectations. In the long-term, the Sweden Personal Income Tax Rate is projected to trend around 57.20 percent in 2021, according to our econometric models.
Sweden Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Calendar

As for how Sweden taxes its poorest:
Sweden has a progressive income tax, the general rates for 2018 are as follows (based on yearly incomes):
...

Income tax






    • 0% from 0 kronor to 20,008 kronor.



    • Circa 32% (ca. ...



    • 32% + 20%: from 468,700 kronor to 675,700 kronor.



    • 32% + 25%: above 675,700 kronor (prior to 2020)
Taxation in Sweden - Wikipedia
Your numbers are all well and good, especially when you consider that to survive, they LOWERED their tax rates. Pretty informative, yes!

But one thing you didn't add in was the VAT-) And the VAT hits consumers the hardest, and has NOTHING to do with the tax rates.

Since I didn't follow your links, maybe they did INCLUDE the VAT, but if they didn't, it kinda skews your tax rate inclusion, doesn't it!
See post 28. ;)
OK, so there you have it, plain and simple. In fact, so simple, that even a BERNARD supporter can understand it, and realize why Hokie Poky took a dump in the polls.

Now the pertinent question, besides the fact that the poorest people are actually taxed the most in %----------->take that amount out of the private economy of the USA, and what kind of HIT does that cause in growth, and unemployment?

We must add the supposed GOOD, then subtract the obvious BAD!

If poorer people want to pay more when they pay nothing now, that is THEIR choice! But it is ALL of our jobs as Americans to educate them on what the REAL choices are, not the fabricated political ones.
 

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Sweden also has universal health care: Health care in Sweden - Wikipedia

College tuition is also free in Sweden.


So when it comes to the central planks of Bernie Sanders's platform, Sweden and Denmark and Norway are examples of the success of his policies.

Not Venezuela.
Again, as long as we agree how they tax their POOREST citizens, while actually having LESS taxes on their businesses, we can agree on BERNARDS views of what needs to be done!
Corporate Tax Rate in Norway averaged 33.62 percent from 1981 until 2020, reaching an all time high of 50.80 percent in 1982 and a record low of 22 percent in 2019.
Norway Corporate Tax Rate | 1981-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Calendar

Personal Income Tax Rate in Norway averaged 46.41 percent from 1995 until 2020, reaching an all time high of 55.30 percent in 2003 and a record low of 38.20 percent in 2019.
Norway Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Calendar


As for how Norway taxes their poorest:
For personal income between NOK 254,500 and NOK 639,750, the bracket tax rate is 4.2%. For personal income between NOK 639,750 and NOK 999,550, the bracket tax rate is 13.2%. Personal income exceeding NOK 999,550 is subject to a bracket tax of 16.2%.
Norway - Taxes on personal income




The corporate tax rate in Denmark is 22%, placing Denmark below the average OECD and EU level. Uniquely among the Nordic countries, Denmark has no double taxation for Danish companies with branches abroad.

Taxation in Denmark - below EU and OECD tax levels

Personal Income Tax Rate in Denmark averaged 60.45 percent from 1995 until 2018, reaching an all time high of 65.90 percent in 1997 and a record low of 55.40 percent in 2010.
Denmark Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2018 Data | 2019-2020 Forecast | Calendar

As for how Denmark taxes its poorest:
The state (i.e., national) income tax has two income brackets (bottom and top). In 2019 income above DKK 46,200 is taxed at 12.16% (bottom-bracket rate), and income above DKK 513,400 is taxed an additional 15% (top-bracket rate).
Taxation in Denmark - Wikipedia



The corporate tax rate in Sweden is 22 percent, below the OECD average of 23.9 percent. The tax code also allows companies to be taxed on their average profitability by allowing net operating losses to be carried forward indefinitely.
Sweden is Competitive in Spite of a High Tax Burden | Tax Foundation


Personal Income Tax Rate in Sweden is expected to reach 57.20 percent by the end of 2020, according to Trading Economics global macro models and analysts expectations. In the long-term, the Sweden Personal Income Tax Rate is projected to trend around 57.20 percent in 2021, according to our econometric models.
Sweden Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Calendar

As for how Sweden taxes its poorest:
Sweden has a progressive income tax, the general rates for 2018 are as follows (based on yearly incomes):
...

Income tax






    • 0% from 0 kronor to 20,008 kronor.



    • Circa 32% (ca. ...



    • 32% + 20%: from 468,700 kronor to 675,700 kronor.



    • 32% + 25%: above 675,700 kronor (prior to 2020)
Taxation in Sweden - Wikipedia
Your numbers are all well and good, especially when you consider that to survive, they LOWERED their tax rates. Pretty informative, yes!

But one thing you didn't add in was the VAT-) And the VAT hits consumers the hardest, and has NOTHING to do with the tax rates.

Since I didn't follow your links, maybe they did INCLUDE the VAT, but if they didn't, it kinda skews your tax rate inclusion, doesn't it!
See post 28. ;)
OK, so there you have it, plain and simple. In fact, so simple, that even a BERNARD supporter can understand it, and realize why Hokie Poky took a dump in the polls.

Now the pertinent question, besides the fact that the poorest people are actually taxed the most in %----------->take that amount out of the private economy of the USA, and what kind of HIT does that cause in growth, and unemployment?

We must add the supposed GOOD, then subtract the obvious BAD!

If poorer people want to pay more when they pay nothing now, that is THEIR choice!
How much does Trump's trillion dollar deficits take out of the private economy?

How hard will the unborn be hit when they have to pay all this debt back?

When the total health care costs of America exceed $5 trillion dollars a year in a few years, how much will that suck out of the productivity of our economy?

What is the Republican plan to reform health care?

What's that? They don't have one!?!?!

Hmmmm...

No wonder Bernie is looking so attractive to so many people.

Any fuckwit can attack someone else's plan. It takes real guts to actualy come up with a plan, and the GOP has demonstrated they are the biggest lying cowards in the whole country.
 

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I hear the GOP and the parroting lickspittle minions attacking and attacking other people's plans.

But they have yet to offer fuck-all themselves.

They are nothing but spineless, retarded cowards.

They have made UHC inevitable.
 

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I hear a lot of talk amongst conservatives of wanting to pull out of the market if Bernie is elected.

Does anyone else hear these things and if they did, what would happen?

Personally I'm not sure I believe them much like I did not believe those who said they would leave the US if Trump was elected, but then again, what future does their money have in a market that is targeted for destruction under socialism?
Regular people having more discretionary income would stimulate the economy more than giving people that already have enough money more money.
Why Bernie could be the stock market's best friend.
 

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The Republicans whine that Bernie's plan will cost $40 trillion in a ten year period.

Well, guess what. Total health care spending in America is very shortly going to exceed $50 trillion per decade.

So chew on that a while, and then ask yourself why the FUCK the Republicans don't have an answer to that problem.
 

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Again, as long as we agree how they tax their POOREST citizens, while actually having LESS taxes on their businesses, we can agree on BERNARDS views of what needs to be done!
Corporate Tax Rate in Norway averaged 33.62 percent from 1981 until 2020, reaching an all time high of 50.80 percent in 1982 and a record low of 22 percent in 2019.
Norway Corporate Tax Rate | 1981-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Calendar

Personal Income Tax Rate in Norway averaged 46.41 percent from 1995 until 2020, reaching an all time high of 55.30 percent in 2003 and a record low of 38.20 percent in 2019.
Norway Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Calendar


As for how Norway taxes their poorest:
For personal income between NOK 254,500 and NOK 639,750, the bracket tax rate is 4.2%. For personal income between NOK 639,750 and NOK 999,550, the bracket tax rate is 13.2%. Personal income exceeding NOK 999,550 is subject to a bracket tax of 16.2%.
Norway - Taxes on personal income




The corporate tax rate in Denmark is 22%, placing Denmark below the average OECD and EU level. Uniquely among the Nordic countries, Denmark has no double taxation for Danish companies with branches abroad.

Taxation in Denmark - below EU and OECD tax levels

Personal Income Tax Rate in Denmark averaged 60.45 percent from 1995 until 2018, reaching an all time high of 65.90 percent in 1997 and a record low of 55.40 percent in 2010.
Denmark Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2018 Data | 2019-2020 Forecast | Calendar

As for how Denmark taxes its poorest:
The state (i.e., national) income tax has two income brackets (bottom and top). In 2019 income above DKK 46,200 is taxed at 12.16% (bottom-bracket rate), and income above DKK 513,400 is taxed an additional 15% (top-bracket rate).
Taxation in Denmark - Wikipedia



The corporate tax rate in Sweden is 22 percent, below the OECD average of 23.9 percent. The tax code also allows companies to be taxed on their average profitability by allowing net operating losses to be carried forward indefinitely.
Sweden is Competitive in Spite of a High Tax Burden | Tax Foundation


Personal Income Tax Rate in Sweden is expected to reach 57.20 percent by the end of 2020, according to Trading Economics global macro models and analysts expectations. In the long-term, the Sweden Personal Income Tax Rate is projected to trend around 57.20 percent in 2021, according to our econometric models.
Sweden Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Calendar

As for how Sweden taxes its poorest:
Sweden has a progressive income tax, the general rates for 2018 are as follows (based on yearly incomes):
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Income tax






    • 0% from 0 kronor to 20,008 kronor.



    • Circa 32% (ca. ...



    • 32% + 20%: from 468,700 kronor to 675,700 kronor.



    • 32% + 25%: above 675,700 kronor (prior to 2020)
Taxation in Sweden - Wikipedia
Your numbers are all well and good, especially when you consider that to survive, they LOWERED their tax rates. Pretty informative, yes!

But one thing you didn't add in was the VAT-) And the VAT hits consumers the hardest, and has NOTHING to do with the tax rates.

Since I didn't follow your links, maybe they did INCLUDE the VAT, but if they didn't, it kinda skews your tax rate inclusion, doesn't it!
See post 28. ;)
OK, so there you have it, plain and simple. In fact, so simple, that even a BERNARD supporter can understand it, and realize why Hokie Poky took a dump in the polls.

Now the pertinent question, besides the fact that the poorest people are actually taxed the most in %----------->take that amount out of the private economy of the USA, and what kind of HIT does that cause in growth, and unemployment?

We must add the supposed GOOD, then subtract the obvious BAD!

If poorer people want to pay more when they pay nothing now, that is THEIR choice!
How much does Trump's trillion dollar deficits take out of the private economy?

How hard will the unborn be hit when they have to pay all this debt back?

When the total health care costs of America exceed $5 trillion dollars a year in a few years, how much will that suck out of the productivity of our economy?

What is the Republican plan to reform health care?

What's that? They don't have one!?!?!

Hmmmm...

No wonder Bernie is looking so attractive to so many people.

Any fuckwit can attack someone else's plan. It takes real guts to actualy come up with a plan, and the GOP has demonstrated they are the biggest lying cowards in the whole country.
Hey, you can complain, you have that right, and in some instances I agree.

Just as long as you ADMIT what the hell is actually going on with the other sides supposed plan, I have no problem with where you stand!

If charging into pitchforks, bayonets, and cannon fire is the BEST plan because the other side has not yet put forth a plan is the best idea, then I suppose you have a good point!

Forgive me if I take the position, that I will just wait and see if a better idea comes up-)
 

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