Zone1 God's Holy Gift for God's Holy People

[Meriweather]

“God’s Holy Gift for God’s Holy People” is proclaimed in most Eastern Orthodox Catholic Churches before the distribution of Communion.

In the Western Catholic Church, it is also taught as communion in holy things among God’s holy people. ‘Holy’ is defined as being set apart to glorify God by the works in our own lives.

From the Catechism of the Catholic Church (Paragraphs 955-956):

955 "So it is that the union of the wayfarers with the brethren who sleep in the peace of Christ is in no way interrupted, but on the contrary, according to the constant faith of the Church, this union is reinforced by an exchange of spiritual goods."

956 The intercession of the saints. "Being more closely united to Christ, those who dwell in heaven fix the whole Church more firmly in holiness.... They do not cease to intercede with the Father for us, as they proffer the merits which they acquired on earth through the one mediator between God and men, Christ Jesus.... So by their fraternal concern is our weakness greatly helped."

Do not weep, for I shall be more useful to you after my death and I shall help you then more effectively than during my life. (Saint Dominic)

What say you: Do people tend to shy away from being holy? Do they tend to take being holy for granted?

 

[Woodznutz]

So, Saint Dominic believes he will go to heaven immediately upon his death, even before the Judgment? Did no righteous persons die before it was written that "no man has ascended to heaven, except he who came down from heaven"?

 

[theHawk]

So, Saint Dominic believes he will go to heaven immediately upon his death, even before the Judgment? Did no righteous persons die before it was written that "no man has ascended to heaven, except he who came down from heaven"?

The righteous persons who died before Jesus died could not ascend to heaven when they died. They all went to Sheol, to Abraham’s bosom, because no one had paid for their sins. Once Jesus was crucified and died, he descended down into Sheol and he was able to open the doors to heaven. He was the perfect sacrifice, the Lamb.

Since then, when righteous people die, they can go straight to heaven.

 

[Meriweather]

So, Saint Dominic believes he will go to heaven immediately upon his death, even before the Judgment? Did no righteous persons die before it was written that "no man has ascended to heaven, except he who came down from heaven"?

The Catholic Church teaches there are two judgments: One private (the particular judgment immediately following death); the second one public (Final Judgment) that occurs at the Last Day. A private personal judgment following death can be noted in Luke, Chapter 16; Matthew, Chapter 16; 2 Corinthians 5:8; Philippians 1:23; Hebrews, 9:27 and 12:23.

 

[Crepitus]

the distribution of Communion.

Ritual Cannibalism, you mean.

 

[Meriweather]

Ritual Cannibalism, you mean.

No. Cannibalism is the consumption of the dead. This differs from being given and then partaking in the living life and divinity of Christ.

 

[Crepitus]

Cannibalism is the consumption of the dead.

Nope cannibalism is consumption of the same species, living or dead.

 

[Meriweather]

Nope cannibalism is consumption of the same species, living or dead.

I've looked before and never have found an incidence of cannibalism of eating a living being. By definition, flesh removed from a body is no longer living but dead. But this isn't your point. Your point is to accuse believers of being cannibals. Why do you hate/hold us in such contempt?

 

[Crepitus]

I've looked before and never have found an incidence of cannibalism of eating a living being. By definition, flesh removed from a body is no longer living but dead. But this isn't your point. Your point is to accuse believers of being cannibals. Why do you hate/hold us in such contempt?

Whether you found it or not it's not part of the definition.

As far as why I dislike organized religion it's because I have seen the harm it does.

Leave these childish fantasies and join reality.

 

[0311]

“God’s Holy Gift for God’s Holy People” is proclaimed in most Eastern Orthodox Catholic Churches before the distribution of Communion.

In the Western Catholic Church, it is also taught as communion in holy things among God’s holy people. ‘Holy’ is defined as being set apart to glorify God by the works in our own lives.

From the Catechism of the Catholic Church (Paragraphs 955-956):

955 "So it is that the union of the wayfarers with the brethren who sleep in the peace of Christ is in no way interrupted, but on the contrary, according to the constant faith of the Church, this union is reinforced by an exchange of spiritual goods."

956 The intercession of the saints. "Being more closely united to Christ, those who dwell in heaven fix the whole Church more firmly in holiness.... They do not cease to intercede with the Father for us, as they proffer the merits which they acquired on earth through the one mediator between God and men, Christ Jesus.... So by their fraternal concern is our weakness greatly helped."

Do not weep, for I shall be more useful to you after my death and I shall help you then more effectively than during my life. (Saint Dominic)

What say you: Do people tend to shy away from being holy? Do they tend to take being holy for granted?

There is no god. Never has been never will be.

 

[Meriweather]

As far as why I dislike organized religion it's because I have seen the harm it does.

You have never seen any of the good it does? Why are you looking only for the harm? We are not a perfect people. Often, even our best work falls short. We are fully aware of this, but it doesn't stop us from throwing in the towel, rather than keep working towards who everyone in this world is meant to be: God's Holy People welcoming God's Holy Gifts to continue to strive to do our best work.

 

[Crepitus]

You have never seen any of the good it does?

far outweighed by the harm

 

[Meriweather]

There is no god. Never has been never will be.

I testify (from experience) that God is, and that He is an amazing source of personal love for all of us. We can only yearn to love as God loves us.

 

[Meriweather]

far outweighed by the harm

All the more reason that for those who are not doing harm to continue sowing seeds and spreading those tiny grains of yeast. We will continue in God's ways or working in tiny whispers. Even when not heard by all, it matters to those who do hear.

 

[0311]

I testify (from experience) that God is, and that He is an amazing source of personal love for all of us. We can only yearn to love as God loves us.

Pay very close attention to what I write.

YOU cannot in anyway testify as the existence of a non-existent Magical/Mystical/Mythical Sky Man. He has never existed. Religion is con. IF you are so weak minded that you are scared to think for yourself that need a non-existent Sky Man that is on you. Me, I learned how to think for myself a long time ago.

 

[Crepitus]

All the more reason that for those who are not doing harm to continue sowing seeds and spreading those tiny grains of yeast. We will continue in God's ways or working in tiny whispers. Even when not heard by all, it matters to those who do hear.

Meanwhile the bigotry, hatred, theft, and child abuse performed by the vast majority will go on while you "sew seeds".

No thanks. Tear the whole thing down.

 

[Meriweather]

Pay very close attention to what I write.

YOU cannot in anyway testify as the existence of a non-existent Magical/Mystical/Mythical Sky Man. He has never existed. Religion is con. IF you are so weak minded that you are scared to think for yourself that need a non-existent Sky Man that is on you. Me, I learned how to think for myself a long time ago.

I can testify to my own experiences...which, of course, you can dismiss out of hand. God is. God loves all. That is what I can testify through my own experience. I cannot testify (although I believe) God created the heavens and earth. I began seeking God at a very young age, so I believe in "Seek and you shall find."

Here is something you might also contemplate: You cannot prove your negative, nor testify to that negative. That still doesn't mean you have to consider my testimony or the testimony of others. But many know, and even more have faith, that God is.

 

[Meriweather]

Meanwhile the bigotry, hatred, theft, and child abuse performed by the vast majority will go on while you "sew seeds".

No thanks. Tear the whole thing down.

Do you imagine "the bigotry, hatred, theft, and child abuse" all stem from people who believe in God? Throughout my life, I've known many believers, yet not one can be accused of anything on your list. Not even theft.

 

[0311]

I can testify to my own experiences...which, of course, you can dismiss out of hand. God is. God loves all. That is what I can testify through my own experience. I cannot testify (although I believe) God created the heavens and earth. I began seeking God at a very young age, so I believe in "Seek and you shall find."

Here is something you might also contemplate: You cannot prove your negative, nor testify to that negative. That still doesn't mean you have to consider my testimony or the testimony of others. But many know, and even more have faith, that God is.

Yes....Yes.....Yes, I know. You refuse to think for yourself. You prefer to led by by nose. No thank you. I was in Viet Nam, there is no god. I saw the aftermath of Charlottesville Virginia, there is no god. I saw the aftermath of Sandy Hook, there is no god. I saw the aftermath of Parkland, there is no god. I saw the aftermath of Uvalde, there is no good.

All you people ever offer up are empty meaningless "Thoughts and Prayers". The number one killer of school age children is gun violence, all you scum ever offer up are empty and meaningless "Thoughts and Prayers."

You are so ******* pro-life you do nothing about school shooting. Take your very non-existent, wholly unreal god and shove it

 

[Meriweather]

You refuse to think for yourself.

It went right over your head that--at a very young age--I decided to find God for myself. No one led me. I was on my own.

Interesting that your conclusion is those who don't believe in God "think for themselves".