global warming

[jknowgood]

Extent of surface melt over Greenland’s ice sheet on July 8 (left) and July 12 (right). Measurements from three satellites showed that on July 8, about 40 percent of the ice sheet had undergone thawing at or near the surface. In just a few days, the melting had dramatically accelerated and an estimated 97 percent of the ice sheet surface had thawed by July 12. In the image, the areas classified as “probable melt” (light pink) correspond to those sites where at least one satellite detected surface melting. The areas classified as “melt” (dark pink) correspond to sites where two or three satellites detected surface melting. The satellites are measuring different physical properties at different scales and are passing over Greenland at different times. As a whole, they provide a picture of an extreme melt event about which scientists are very confident. Credit: Nicolo E. DiGirolamo, SSAI/NASA GSFC, and Jesse Allen, NASA Earth Observatory

We are seeing the ice melt in Greenland and the Arctic Ocean. How does that happen without global warming?

You do realize why greenland was called greenland?

 

[BluesLegend]

And their solution to global warming...shocker tax increases. Tune in next week when the left want to raise taxes due to the solar wind.

Well now you have at last faced that there is a problem. Now would you care to link to who is proposing these shocker tax increases, and give the number of the bill in which they are proposed?

Kind of a dumb ****, aren't you there, boy? LOL Maybe someday when you add another decade to your 13 years, you will gain enough sense to post rationally.

Calm yourself lib, don't make me drive my 4x4 truck through Portland spewing V8 greenhouse gases.

I once took a hot rod V8 Mustang Holley double pumper carb through one of Portland's DEQ test centers just for fun, the look on the technician's face was pure seething hatred. Messing with libs, good times

 

[Old Rocks]

No such thing as man-made global warming...

And every Scientific Society states otherwise. Same for National Academies of Science of the various nations, and every major University. Of course an anonymous poster on an internet message board is so much more knowledgeable than all these scientists that have spent decades studying their disciplines. And we all know that these scientists from every nation, culture, and political system are all in on a conspiracy to fool us all. Don't run out of tinfoil for your little hats.

There may be some "warming" in "places" but certainly not man-made. Fact

What they don’t agree on is by how much. This issue is called ‘climate sensitivity’, the amount the temperatures will increase if CO2 is doubled from pre-industrial levels.Climate models have predicted the least temperature rise would be on average 1.65°C (2.97°F) , but upper estimates vary a lot, averaging 5.2°C (9.36°F). Current best estimates are for a rise of around 3°C (5.4°F), with a likely maximum of 4.5°C (8.1°F).

How do we know more CO2 is causing warming?

What Goes Down…
The greenhouse effect works like this: Energy arrives from the sun in the form of visible light and ultraviolet radiation. The Earth then emits some of this energy as infrared radiation. Greenhouse gases in the atmosphere 'capture' some of this heat, then re-emit it in all directions - including back to the Earth's surface.

Through this process, CO2 and other greenhouse gases keep the Earth’s surface 33°Celsius (59.4°F) warmer than it would be without them. We have added 42% moreCO2, and temperatures have gone up. There should be some evidence that links CO2 to the temperature rise.

So far, the average global temperature has gone up by about 0.8 degrees C (1.4°F):

"According to an ongoing temperature analysis conducted by scientists atNASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS)…the average global temperature on Earth has increased by about 0.8°Celsius (1.4°Fahrenheit) since 1880. Two-thirds of the warming has occurred since 1975, at a rate of roughly 0.15-0.20°C per decade."

Seems the scientists state otherwise. And why should I believe your posts that indicate you have about a third grade scientific education over the evidence and observations of scientists with decades of study in their discipline.

 

[jknowgood]

No such thing as man-made global warming...

And every Scientific Society states otherwise. Same for National Academies of Science of the various nations, and every major University. Of course an anonymous poster on an internet message board is so much more knowledgeable than all these scientists that have spent decades studying their disciplines. And we all know that these scientists from every nation, culture, and political system are all in on a conspiracy to fool us all. Don't run out of tinfoil for your little hats.

Your boy obama has exaggerated the truth so much. We know you are full of shit.

 

[Old Rocks]

Well now you have at last faced that there is a problem. Now would you care to link to who is proposing these shocker tax increases, and give the number of the bill in which they are proposed?

Kind of a dumb ****, aren't you there, boy? LOL Maybe someday when you add another decade to your 13 years, you will gain enough sense to post rationally.

Calm yourself lib, don't make me drive my 4x4 truck through Portland spewing V8 greenhouse gases.

I once took a hot rod V8 Mustang Holley double pumper carb through one of Portland's DEQ test centers just for fun, the look on the technician's face was pure seething hatred. Messing with libs, good times

That's all right. Mess too much and you will end up with your rig being used for scrap.

 

[jknowgood]

If you liberals cared, why haven't you demanded Obama to do video conference? I mean you support him polluting the earth to play a round of golf. Can I say hypocrites?

 

[Old Rocks]

No such thing as man-made global warming...

And every Scientific Society states otherwise. Same for National Academies of Science of the various nations, and every major University. Of course an anonymous poster on an internet message board is so much more knowledgeable than all these scientists that have spent decades studying their disciplines. And we all know that these scientists from every nation, culture, and political system are all in on a conspiracy to fool us all. Don't run out of tinfoil for your little hats.

Your boy obama has exaggerated the truth so much. We know you are full of shit.

LOL Can't post any articles from real scientists, now can you?

 

[BluesLegend]

Kind of a dumb ****, aren't you there, boy? LOL Maybe someday when you add another decade to your 13 years, you will gain enough sense to post rationally.

Calm yourself lib, don't make me drive my 4x4 truck through Portland spewing V8 greenhouse gases.

I once took a hot rod V8 Mustang Holley double pumper carb through one of Portland's DEQ test centers just for fun, the look on the technician's face was pure seething hatred. Messing with libs, good times

That's all right. Mess too much and you will end up with your rig being used for scrap.

I live across the river, Oregon can pound sand up their ass.

 

[jknowgood]

No such thing as man-made global warming...

And every Scientific Society states otherwise. Same for National Academies of Science of the various nations, and every major University. Of course an anonymous poster on an internet message board is so much more knowledgeable than all these scientists that have spent decades studying their disciplines. And we all know that these scientists from every nation, culture, and political system are all in on a conspiracy to fool us all. Don't run out of tinfoil for your little hats.

Your boy obama has exaggerated the truth so much. We know you are full of shit.

LOL Can't post any articles from real scientists, now can you?

So you are okay with him taking air force one across the United States to play a game of golf? That is a yes or no question.

 

[Rustic]

No such thing as man-made global warming...

And every Scientific Society states otherwise. Same for National Academies of Science of the various nations, and every major University. Of course an anonymous poster on an internet message board is so much more knowledgeable than all these scientists that have spent decades studying their disciplines. And we all know that these scientists from every nation, culture, and political system are all in on a conspiracy to fool us all. Don't run out of tinfoil for your little hats.

There may be some "warming" in "places" but certainly not man-made. Fact

What they don’t agree on is by how much. This issue is called ‘climate sensitivity’, the amount the temperatures will increase if CO2 is doubled from pre-industrial levels.Climate models have predicted the least temperature rise would be on average 1.65°C (2.97°F) , but upper estimates vary a lot, averaging 5.2°C (9.36°F). Current best estimates are for a rise of around 3°C (5.4°F), with a likely maximum of 4.5°C (8.1°F).

How do we know more CO2 is causing warming?

What Goes Down…
The greenhouse effect works like this: Energy arrives from the sun in the form of visible light and ultraviolet radiation. The Earth then emits some of this energy as infrared radiation. Greenhouse gases in the atmosphere 'capture' some of this heat, then re-emit it in all directions - including back to the Earth's surface.

Through this process, CO2 and other greenhouse gases keep the Earth’s surface 33°Celsius (59.4°F) warmer than it would be without them. We have added 42% moreCO2, and temperatures have gone up. There should be some evidence that links CO2 to the temperature rise.

So far, the average global temperature has gone up by about 0.8 degrees C (1.4°F):

"According to an ongoing temperature analysis conducted by scientists atNASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS)…the average global temperature on Earth has increased by about 0.8°Celsius (1.4°Fahrenheit) since 1880. Two-thirds of the warming has occurred since 1975, at a rate of roughly 0.15-0.20°C per decade."

Seems the scientists state otherwise. And why should I believe your posts that indicate you have about a third grade scientific education over the evidence and observations of scientists with decades of study in their discipline.

You listen to this dumb **** too much, you do know he knows nothing?

 

[jknowgood]

No such thing as man-made global warming...

And every Scientific Society states otherwise. Same for National Academies of Science of the various nations, and every major University. Of course an anonymous poster on an internet message board is so much more knowledgeable than all these scientists that have spent decades studying their disciplines. And we all know that these scientists from every nation, culture, and political system are all in on a conspiracy to fool us all. Don't run out of tinfoil for your little hats.

Your boy obama has exaggerated the truth so much. We know you are full of shit.

LOL Can't post any articles from real scientists, now can you?

No, but I can say your prediction from the first earth day was completely wrong.

 

[bripat9643]

Extent of surface melt over Greenland’s ice sheet on July 8 (left) and July 12 (right). Measurements from three satellites showed that on July 8, about 40 percent of the ice sheet had undergone thawing at or near the surface. In just a few days, the melting had dramatically accelerated and an estimated 97 percent of the ice sheet surface had thawed by July 12. In the image, the areas classified as “probable melt” (light pink) correspond to those sites where at least one satellite detected surface melting. The areas classified as “melt” (dark pink) correspond to sites where two or three satellites detected surface melting. The satellites are measuring different physical properties at different scales and are passing over Greenland at different times. As a whole, they provide a picture of an extreme melt event about which scientists are very confident. Credit: Nicolo E. DiGirolamo, SSAI/NASA GSFC, and Jesse Allen, NASA Earth Observatory

We are seeing the ice melt in Greenland and the Arctic Ocean. How does that happen without global warming?

Notice the time of year, July. Ice tends to melt in July, even in Greenland.

 

[Old Rocks]

Extent of surface melt over Greenland’s ice sheet on July 8 (left) and July 12 (right). Measurements from three satellites showed that on July 8, about 40 percent of the ice sheet had undergone thawing at or near the surface. In just a few days, the melting had dramatically accelerated and an estimated 97 percent of the ice sheet surface had thawed by July 12. In the image, the areas classified as “probable melt” (light pink) correspond to those sites where at least one satellite detected surface melting. The areas classified as “melt” (dark pink) correspond to sites where two or three satellites detected surface melting. The satellites are measuring different physical properties at different scales and are passing over Greenland at different times. As a whole, they provide a picture of an extreme melt event about which scientists are very confident. Credit: Nicolo E. DiGirolamo, SSAI/NASA GSFC, and Jesse Allen, NASA Earth Observatory

We are seeing the ice melt in Greenland and the Arctic Ocean. How does that happen without global warming?

You do realize why greenland was called greenland?

Yes, as a marketing device to get others to follow Eric the Red.

History of Greenland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Norse settlement[edit]

Summer in the Greenland coast circa year 1000
Jens Erik Carl Rasmussen (1841–1893)
Europeans became aware of Greenland's existence, probably in the early 10th century, whenGunnbjörn Ulfsson, sailing from Norway to Iceland, was blown off course by a storm, and happened to sight some islands off Greenland. During the 980s, explorers led by Erik the Red set out from Icelandand reached the southwest coast of Greenland, found the region uninhabited, and settled there. Eirik named the island Greenland (Grænland in Old Norse and modern Icelandic, Grønland in modernDanish and Norwegian) in effect as a marketing device. Both the Book of Icelanders (Íslendingabók, a medieval account of Icelandic history from the 12th century onward) and the Saga of Eric the Red(Eiríks saga rauða, a medieval account of his life and of the Norse settlement of Greenland) state "He named the land Greenland, saying that people would be eager to go there if it had a good name."[7]

According to the sagas, Erik the Red was exiled from Iceland for three years for committing some murders.[8] He sailed to Greenland, where he explored the coastline and claimed certain regions as his own. He then returned to Iceland to persuade people to join him in establishing a settlement on Greenland. The Icelandic sagas say that 25 ships left Iceland with Erik the Red in 985, and that only 14 of them arrived safely in Greenland.[9] This date has been approximately confirmed by radiocarbon dating of some remains at the first settlement at Brattahlid (now Qassiarsuk), which yielded a date of about 1000. According to the sagas, it was also in the year 1000 that Erik's son, Leif Eirikson, left the settlement to explore the regions around Vinland, which is generally assumed to have been located in what is now Newfoundland.

 

[jknowgood]

Extent of surface melt over Greenland’s ice sheet on July 8 (left) and July 12 (right). Measurements from three satellites showed that on July 8, about 40 percent of the ice sheet had undergone thawing at or near the surface. In just a few days, the melting had dramatically accelerated and an estimated 97 percent of the ice sheet surface had thawed by July 12. In the image, the areas classified as “probable melt” (light pink) correspond to those sites where at least one satellite detected surface melting. The areas classified as “melt” (dark pink) correspond to sites where two or three satellites detected surface melting. The satellites are measuring different physical properties at different scales and are passing over Greenland at different times. As a whole, they provide a picture of an extreme melt event about which scientists are very confident. Credit: Nicolo E. DiGirolamo, SSAI/NASA GSFC, and Jesse Allen, NASA Earth Observatory

We are seeing the ice melt in Greenland and the Arctic Ocean. How does that happen without global warming?

You do realize why greenland was called greenland?

Yes, as a marketing device to get others to follow Eric the Red.

History of Greenland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Norse settlement[edit]

Summer in the Greenland coast circa year 1000
Jens Erik Carl Rasmussen (1841–1893)
Europeans became aware of Greenland's existence, probably in the early 10th century, whenGunnbjörn Ulfsson, sailing from Norway to Iceland, was blown off course by a storm, and happened to sight some islands off Greenland. During the 980s, explorers led by Erik the Red set out from Icelandand reached the southwest coast of Greenland, found the region uninhabited, and settled there. Eirik named the island Greenland (Grænland in Old Norse and modern Icelandic, Grønland in modernDanish and Norwegian) in effect as a marketing device. Both the Book of Icelanders (Íslendingabók, a medieval account of Icelandic history from the 12th century onward) and the Saga of Eric the Red(Eiríks saga rauða, a medieval account of his life and of the Norse settlement of Greenland) state "He named the land Greenland, saying that people would be eager to go there if it had a good name."[7]

According to the sagas, Erik the Red was exiled from Iceland for three years for committing some murders.[8] He sailed to Greenland, where he explored the coastline and claimed certain regions as his own. He then returned to Iceland to persuade people to join him in establishing a settlement on Greenland. The Icelandic sagas say that 25 ships left Iceland with Erik the Red in 985, and that only 14 of them arrived safely in Greenland.[9] This date has been approximately confirmed by radiocarbon dating of some remains at the first settlement at Brattahlid (now Qassiarsuk), which yielded a date of about 1000. According to the sagas, it was also in the year 1000 that Erik's son, Leif Eirikson, left the settlement to explore the regions around Vinland, which is generally assumed to have been located in what is now Newfoundland.

It was green, before fossil fuels. So what's your point ?

 

[Old Rocks]

Extent of surface melt over Greenland’s ice sheet on July 8 (left) and July 12 (right). Measurements from three satellites showed that on July 8, about 40 percent of the ice sheet had undergone thawing at or near the surface. In just a few days, the melting had dramatically accelerated and an estimated 97 percent of the ice sheet surface had thawed by July 12. In the image, the areas classified as “probable melt” (light pink) correspond to those sites where at least one satellite detected surface melting. The areas classified as “melt” (dark pink) correspond to sites where two or three satellites detected surface melting. The satellites are measuring different physical properties at different scales and are passing over Greenland at different times. As a whole, they provide a picture of an extreme melt event about which scientists are very confident. Credit: Nicolo E. DiGirolamo, SSAI/NASA GSFC, and Jesse Allen, NASA Earth Observatory

We are seeing the ice melt in Greenland and the Arctic Ocean. How does that happen without global warming?

Notice the time of year, July. Ice tends to melt in July, even in Greenland.

Greenland ice loss 40 trillion pounds bigger than thought

WASHINGTON (AP) - Greenland is losing about 40 trillion pounds more ice a year than scientists had thought, according to a new study that used GPS to help estimate how much is melting.


So instead of losing on average 550 trillion pounds of ice each year between 2003 and 2013, Greenland lost about 590 trillion pounds , said co-author Michael Bevis of Ohio State University in a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances . That's about a 7.6 percent difference.

The Empire State Building weighs 730 million pounds, so 40 trillion pounds a year is the equivalent to more than 50,000 Empire State Buildings.


"If you look at the last 15 years since we've been having these measurements, it's clearly getting worse, the ice loss," Bevis said. "It is pretty scary."

Very large amount of ice to be melting in just one month.

 

[Old Rocks]

Extent of surface melt over Greenland’s ice sheet on July 8 (left) and July 12 (right). Measurements from three satellites showed that on July 8, about 40 percent of the ice sheet had undergone thawing at or near the surface. In just a few days, the melting had dramatically accelerated and an estimated 97 percent of the ice sheet surface had thawed by July 12. In the image, the areas classified as “probable melt” (light pink) correspond to those sites where at least one satellite detected surface melting. The areas classified as “melt” (dark pink) correspond to sites where two or three satellites detected surface melting. The satellites are measuring different physical properties at different scales and are passing over Greenland at different times. As a whole, they provide a picture of an extreme melt event about which scientists are very confident. Credit: Nicolo E. DiGirolamo, SSAI/NASA GSFC, and Jesse Allen, NASA Earth Observatory

We are seeing the ice melt in Greenland and the Arctic Ocean. How does that happen without global warming?

You do realize why greenland was called greenland?

Yes, as a marketing device to get others to follow Eric the Red.

History of Greenland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Norse settlement[edit]

Summer in the Greenland coast circa year 1000
Jens Erik Carl Rasmussen (1841–1893)
Europeans became aware of Greenland's existence, probably in the early 10th century, whenGunnbjörn Ulfsson, sailing from Norway to Iceland, was blown off course by a storm, and happened to sight some islands off Greenland. During the 980s, explorers led by Erik the Red set out from Icelandand reached the southwest coast of Greenland, found the region uninhabited, and settled there. Eirik named the island Greenland (Grænland in Old Norse and modern Icelandic, Grønland in modernDanish and Norwegian) in effect as a marketing device. Both the Book of Icelanders (Íslendingabók, a medieval account of Icelandic history from the 12th century onward) and the Saga of Eric the Red(Eiríks saga rauða, a medieval account of his life and of the Norse settlement of Greenland) state "He named the land Greenland, saying that people would be eager to go there if it had a good name."[7]

According to the sagas, Erik the Red was exiled from Iceland for three years for committing some murders.[8] He sailed to Greenland, where he explored the coastline and claimed certain regions as his own. He then returned to Iceland to persuade people to join him in establishing a settlement on Greenland. The Icelandic sagas say that 25 ships left Iceland with Erik the Red in 985, and that only 14 of them arrived safely in Greenland.[9] This date has been approximately confirmed by radiocarbon dating of some remains at the first settlement at Brattahlid (now Qassiarsuk), which yielded a date of about 1000. According to the sagas, it was also in the year 1000 that Erik's son, Leif Eirikson, left the settlement to explore the regions around Vinland, which is generally assumed to have been located in what is now Newfoundland.

It was green, before fossil fuels. So what's your point ?

Really? Read Jared Diamond's " Collapse". You will find that the area was never more than marginal, at best, and that a slight cooling doomed the Greenland colony.

 

[flacaltenn]

Extent of surface melt over Greenland’s ice sheet on July 8 (left) and July 12 (right). Measurements from three satellites showed that on July 8, about 40 percent of the ice sheet had undergone thawing at or near the surface. In just a few days, the melting had dramatically accelerated and an estimated 97 percent of the ice sheet surface had thawed by July 12. In the image, the areas classified as “probable melt” (light pink) correspond to those sites where at least one satellite detected surface melting. The areas classified as “melt” (dark pink) correspond to sites where two or three satellites detected surface melting. The satellites are measuring different physical properties at different scales and are passing over Greenland at different times. As a whole, they provide a picture of an extreme melt event about which scientists are very confident. Credit: Nicolo E. DiGirolamo, SSAI/NASA GSFC, and Jesse Allen, NASA Earth Observatory

We are seeing the ice melt in Greenland and the Arctic Ocean. How does that happen without global warming?

And the vast majority of that "melt" -- refroze in place a few days later. And the point?

 

[bripat9643]

Extent of surface melt over Greenland’s ice sheet on July 8 (left) and July 12 (right). Measurements from three satellites showed that on July 8, about 40 percent of the ice sheet had undergone thawing at or near the surface. In just a few days, the melting had dramatically accelerated and an estimated 97 percent of the ice sheet surface had thawed by July 12. In the image, the areas classified as “probable melt” (light pink) correspond to those sites where at least one satellite detected surface melting. The areas classified as “melt” (dark pink) correspond to sites where two or three satellites detected surface melting. The satellites are measuring different physical properties at different scales and are passing over Greenland at different times. As a whole, they provide a picture of an extreme melt event about which scientists are very confident. Credit: Nicolo E. DiGirolamo, SSAI/NASA GSFC, and Jesse Allen, NASA Earth Observatory

We are seeing the ice melt in Greenland and the Arctic Ocean. How does that happen without global warming?

You do realize why greenland was called greenland?

Yes, as a marketing device to get others to follow Eric the Red.

History of Greenland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Norse settlement[edit]

Summer in the Greenland coast circa year 1000
Jens Erik Carl Rasmussen (1841–1893)
Europeans became aware of Greenland's existence, probably in the early 10th century, whenGunnbjörn Ulfsson, sailing from Norway to Iceland, was blown off course by a storm, and happened to sight some islands off Greenland. During the 980s, explorers led by Erik the Red set out from Icelandand reached the southwest coast of Greenland, found the region uninhabited, and settled there. Eirik named the island Greenland (Grænland in Old Norse and modern Icelandic, Grønland in modernDanish and Norwegian) in effect as a marketing device. Both the Book of Icelanders (Íslendingabók, a medieval account of Icelandic history from the 12th century onward) and the Saga of Eric the Red(Eiríks saga rauða, a medieval account of his life and of the Norse settlement of Greenland) state "He named the land Greenland, saying that people would be eager to go there if it had a good name."[7]

According to the sagas, Erik the Red was exiled from Iceland for three years for committing some murders.[8] He sailed to Greenland, where he explored the coastline and claimed certain regions as his own. He then returned to Iceland to persuade people to join him in establishing a settlement on Greenland. The Icelandic sagas say that 25 ships left Iceland with Erik the Red in 985, and that only 14 of them arrived safely in Greenland.[9] This date has been approximately confirmed by radiocarbon dating of some remains at the first settlement at Brattahlid (now Qassiarsuk), which yielded a date of about 1000. According to the sagas, it was also in the year 1000 that Erik's son, Leif Eirikson, left the settlement to explore the regions around Vinland, which is generally assumed to have been located in what is now Newfoundland.

It was green, before fossil fuels. So what's your point ?

Really? Read Jared Diamond's " Collapse". You will find that the area was never more than marginal, at best, and that a slight cooling doomed the Greenland colony.

They didn't call it "the Little Ice Age" because it was a slight cooling.

 

[jknowgood]

Extent of surface melt over Greenland’s ice sheet on July 8 (left) and July 12 (right). Measurements from three satellites showed that on July 8, about 40 percent of the ice sheet had undergone thawing at or near the surface. In just a few days, the melting had dramatically accelerated and an estimated 97 percent of the ice sheet surface had thawed by July 12. In the image, the areas classified as “probable melt” (light pink) correspond to those sites where at least one satellite detected surface melting. The areas classified as “melt” (dark pink) correspond to sites where two or three satellites detected surface melting. The satellites are measuring different physical properties at different scales and are passing over Greenland at different times. As a whole, they provide a picture of an extreme melt event about which scientists are very confident. Credit: Nicolo E. DiGirolamo, SSAI/NASA GSFC, and Jesse Allen, NASA Earth Observatory

We are seeing the ice melt in Greenland and the Arctic Ocean. How does that happen without global warming?

You do realize why greenland was called greenland?

Yes, as a marketing device to get others to follow Eric the Red.

History of Greenland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Norse settlement[edit]

Summer in the Greenland coast circa year 1000
Jens Erik Carl Rasmussen (1841–1893)
Europeans became aware of Greenland's existence, probably in the early 10th century, whenGunnbjörn Ulfsson, sailing from Norway to Iceland, was blown off course by a storm, and happened to sight some islands off Greenland. During the 980s, explorers led by Erik the Red set out from Icelandand reached the southwest coast of Greenland, found the region uninhabited, and settled there. Eirik named the island Greenland (Grænland in Old Norse and modern Icelandic, Grønland in modernDanish and Norwegian) in effect as a marketing device. Both the Book of Icelanders (Íslendingabók, a medieval account of Icelandic history from the 12th century onward) and the Saga of Eric the Red(Eiríks saga rauða, a medieval account of his life and of the Norse settlement of Greenland) state "He named the land Greenland, saying that people would be eager to go there if it had a good name."[7]

According to the sagas, Erik the Red was exiled from Iceland for three years for committing some murders.[8] He sailed to Greenland, where he explored the coastline and claimed certain regions as his own. He then returned to Iceland to persuade people to join him in establishing a settlement on Greenland. The Icelandic sagas say that 25 ships left Iceland with Erik the Red in 985, and that only 14 of them arrived safely in Greenland.[9] This date has been approximately confirmed by radiocarbon dating of some remains at the first settlement at Brattahlid (now Qassiarsuk), which yielded a date of about 1000. According to the sagas, it was also in the year 1000 that Erik's son, Leif Eirikson, left the settlement to explore the regions around Vinland, which is generally assumed to have been located in what is now Newfoundland.

It was green, before fossil fuels. So what's your point ?

Really? Read Jared Diamond's " Collapse". You will find that the area was never more than marginal, at best, and that a slight cooling doomed the Greenland colony.

You're a dumbass, read history for once.

 

[Rustic]

Extent of surface melt over Greenland’s ice sheet on July 8 (left) and July 12 (right). Measurements from three satellites showed that on July 8, about 40 percent of the ice sheet had undergone thawing at or near the surface. In just a few days, the melting had dramatically accelerated and an estimated 97 percent of the ice sheet surface had thawed by July 12. In the image, the areas classified as “probable melt” (light pink) correspond to those sites where at least one satellite detected surface melting. The areas classified as “melt” (dark pink) correspond to sites where two or three satellites detected surface melting. The satellites are measuring different physical properties at different scales and are passing over Greenland at different times. As a whole, they provide a picture of an extreme melt event about which scientists are very confident. Credit: Nicolo E. DiGirolamo, SSAI/NASA GSFC, and Jesse Allen, NASA Earth Observatory

We are seeing the ice melt in Greenland and the Arctic Ocean. How does that happen without global warming?

Notice the time of year, July. Ice tends to melt in July, even in Greenland.

Greenland ice loss 40 trillion pounds bigger than thought

WASHINGTON (AP) - Greenland is losing about 40 trillion pounds more ice a year than scientists had thought, according to a new study that used GPS to help estimate how much is melting.


So instead of losing on average 550 trillion pounds of ice each year between 2003 and 2013, Greenland lost about 590 trillion pounds , said co-author Michael Bevis of Ohio State University in a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances . That's about a 7.6 percent difference.

The Empire State Building weighs 730 million pounds, so 40 trillion pounds a year is the equivalent to more than 50,000 Empire State Buildings.


"If you look at the last 15 years since we've been having these measurements, it's clearly getting worse, the ice loss," Bevis said. "It is pretty scary."

Very large amount of ice to be melting in just one month.

You're talking out of your ass, Al gore would be proud of you. LOL