Global warming biggest science scandal ever

[Flash]

Liberals, are so fucking ruined.

It is not science with them it is a religious cult.

You can't be a card carrying Moon Bat Liberal unless you believe in the scam and drink the Kool Aid

 

[orogenicman]

I wonder if Global Warming will be the primary conversation of all 6 million people living in Assachusetts.

Proving yet again that deniers don't know the difference between weather and climate.

 

[Theowl32]

I wonder if Global Warming will be the primary conversation of all 6 million people living in Assachusetts.

Proving yet again that deniers don't know the difference between weather and climate.

Liberals are morons. You are a liberal. That means you are a fucking moron.

 

[Wyld Kard]

The drink of choice of the global-warming nutjob believers everywhere.

 

[elektra]

If the science is on their side, why do they keep cheating?

Indeed.

And, here's one to recall when the Leftist Politifact supports the warmists back in June....

"Fox's Doocy: NASA fudged data to make the case for global warming
Fox News host Steve Doocy gave the doubters some ammunition on June 24, 2014. In a segment on Fox and Friends called "News by the Numbers," Doocy drew viewers’ attention to the year 1934.

Fox s Doocy NASA fudged data to make the case for global warming PunditFact


So.....the warmists and Politifact get four Pinocchios

And yet, NASA was correct in their November Predictions for February. Just because your handlers don't agree with the method, the outcome just might be dead on.

As correct as a Groundhog? I do not recall their forcast of record levels of snow

I wonder if Global Warming will be the primary conversation of all 6 million people living in Assachusetts.

They are wishing for wind mills.

 

[Freewill]

My only question is why?

The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever - Telegraph

two weeks ago, under the headline “How we are being tricked by flawed data on global warming”, I wrote about Paul Homewood, who, on his Notalotofpeopleknowthat blog, had checked the published temperature graphs for three weather stations in Paraguay against the temperatures that had originally been recorded. In each instance, the actual trend of 60 years of data had been dramatically reversed, so that a cooling trend was changed to one that showed a marked warming.

Because these people are socialists and their main goal is attacking capitalism.

Like all leftists, they have to hide their true motives behind a "cause."

That way if you question their motives, they can demagogue you as a bad person who doesn't want to "save the earth." Think Captain Planet.

That's why they call you "deniers." It's a way to demagogue.

The facts are irrelevant, the science is non-existent; they have their marching orders

From whom? And why?

My opinion, the why is to bring America down to the rest of the third world. Through their socialism they can't make countries better so to be fair they must make the great country mundane.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Global Warming comes after the icecaps melt beyond a certain ecological tipping point.

So yeah, we're not 100% accelerated down that path yet.

The correct term for today is "Climate Change". The wild swings between extreme colds and extreme heat is due to the nature of the specific heat of the water molecule as it phase changes from a solid (ice at the poles) to a liquid (rising ocean levels seen everywhere today along lowlying coastal areas).

Due to the water molecule's relatively high specific heat (the amount of energy any substance needs to phase change from solid-liquid-gas-plasma), as ice melts it draws in enormous energy that would be felt as regional cold snaps that are unusual (like the cold fronts coming down and gripping the East more frequently in Winter). It also causes cooler than normal temperatures in normally hot regions (as has been happening more often now in the South and Southwest at odd times during Summers).

Climate Change is what you should fear. By the time actual significant Global Warming arrives on its heels (as the ice caps continue to melt and our atmosphere changes for the worse.), you'll be more concerned about how everyone is dying from starvation and the massive wars resulting from that chaos to be worried about silly things like semantics.

Try an experiment: put an ice cube on your counter to mimic the ice caps at the polls. Put a little fan blowing across it as it melts (it will melt much faster this way too). Notice the temperature of the air even a bit distant from the ice/fan. A bit cooler, isn't it? That's how Global Warming with ice caps melting feels at first...cooler...oddly...alternating with pockets of warmer and warmer air when that nice coolness isn't blowing your way at that minute..

Enjoy. Because that is exactly what's happening to the planet.

In other Moon Bat words since this global warming bullshit didn't work out like was predicted 20 years ago then the scam is being redefined.

No wonder the Republicans want to curtail Science. Since you don't use it, why bother teaching it. The Predictions are correct but the time frame is wrong. But it's a fact that by 2020, all public markings of the Glacier National Part will be gone. You can't get around that. And it's attributed to global warming of the Artic. You can't change the fact that Polar Bears are on the decline. Not because of urban encroachment but because it's further and further between ice drifts and they can't go where the food is. Forget science, go with reality.

For being a Moonbat Words, reality is reality. So cut the sciences even further in our Education System since you don't use it anyway. Your Handlers don't allow it.

 

[Flash]

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No wonder the Republicans want to curtail Science. Since you don't use it, why bother teaching it. The Predictions are correct but the time frame is wrong. But it's a fact that by 2020, all public markings of the Glacier National Part will be gone. You can't get around that. And it's attributed to global warming of the Artic. You can't change the fact that Polar Bears are on the decline. Not because of urban encroachment but because it's further and further between ice drifts and they can't go where the food is. Forget science, go with reality.

For being a Moonbat Words, reality is reality. So cut the sciences even further in our Education System since you don't use it anyway. Your Handlers don't allow it.

There is absolutely no credible proof that mankind is changing the climate of the earth through CO2 emission, which is what this scam is based upon.

Scientist first came up with a theory that because burning fossil fuels produces CO2 gasses then the CO2 will produce a greenhouse effect on earth raising temperatures.

That was a valid theory. They even looked at preliminary data that showed a rough correlation between atmospheric CO2 levels and world wide temperatures and it showed a rise in both.

However, then is where the real science began to fall apart and the scam began.

Because the initial correlation showed rise in CO2 levels and temperature there was a lot of money put into research. The research mostly consisted of computer modeling.

The science was distorted in order to provide the computer models with the data to support the theory to continue with the funding sources.

For instance, the data that shows historically that CO2 levels lag temperature was ignored. The lag was both in the increase in temperature and the decrease sides.

Data showing that in the past the CO2 levels were ten times higher but yet the earth was much cooler and data showing that at times the CO2 levels were lower but yet the earth was warmer were mostly ignored in the computer models.

World wide temperature data was manipulated like we saw in Al Gore's hockey stick picture where data was cherry picked. When the scientist used all the data then the picture was different.

Assumptions were made about historical temperatures that were indefensible based upon the sparse data collected. “World wide temperature data” was based upon some very flimsy tree ring and ice samples in just a few locations and temperature measurements, mostly in the universities in Europe and North America, in the last couple of hundred years at best. Southern Hemisphere data was very sparse and large areas like Siberia and Asia were mostly ignored not to mention most of Africa and South America.

The empirical data about how CO2 really chemically reacts in the atmosphere were mostly ignored. CO2 does not react the same in real life that it does in the theoretical computer models. The chemistry in the atmosphere is much more complex than the computer models forecast.

Then there was the Climategate revelations that data was manipulated by the scientists in order to prove what could not be proven with real data. This really blew the whistle on the scam.

This thread referenced the bogus data that is being used by the scam artist to claim that there is warming when in fact there hasn't been any above what would be natural causes.

Then you have the fact that after 30 years of this theory there is no credible evidence that the climate on earth is getting warmer due to man made influence. In fact the climate has been relatively stable for the last 15 years despite counties like China putting out tremendous more amounts of CO2 gasses. There is very credible evidence that the earth may be moving back into another mini ice age like happens every few hundred years. The last one was in medieval times.

AGW is just bad science because it has become a political issue. Too bad it has turned from a valid science discussion into a division between the Left and the Right.

 

[orogenicman]

Does anyone here know why there are so few people who actually understand the science of climate change posting here these days? It is because the forum has been taken over by right wing political pundants who don't even understand the very simple fact that weather and climate are not the same thing. Talking to these people is like talking to a creationist with the exception that at least a creationist can justify their ignorance on religious grounds. And at least creationists for the most part don't use foul and/or insulting language when you converse with them. I can accept that even if I think their denial is irrational. I can accept that because their belief in creationism mostly doesn't hurt anyone but themselves. On the other hand, right wing political pundants who are actively denying the science are hurting everyone because every day nothing is done to mitigate CO2 emissions, because every day their activism against science affects all of us and pushes us further and further away from our former leadership role in the sciences, the more at risk is our future and that of our children, and their children. It really does border on criminal behavior, IMHO. But who the hell wants to have a conversation with some one like theowl32, or Flash, people who obviously have nothing to contribute to the conversation, or even at least one of the moderators, who apparently feels it to be their place to shut down the conversation of anyone who disagrees with them? I certainly see no point to it. But perhaps that was their aim in the first place: To shut down all reasonable discussion and claim, in their eyes at least, some sort of victory. Sorry, folks. Alienating people doesn't make one superior to anyone. And considering the fact that the only ones who appear to be taken to task on the forum rules are those who support climate change science, such behavior certainly isn't contributing to the conversation. So what's the point? Anyone? Why even have an environment forum at all?

 

[Silhouette]

Does anyone here know why there are so few people who actually understand the science of climate change posting here these days? It is because the forum has been taken over by right wing political pundants who don't even understand the very simple fact that weather and climate are not the same thing. Talking to these people is like talking to a creationist with the exception that at least a creationist can justify their ignorance on religious grounds...

Climate-change-denial IS a religion...so their objections are justified on religious grounds. Their god is carbon-based profits. Even as snownado swarms mow their own house down and it's 65 degrees in Southern California in July, they're all good with it. "Nothing to see here!"...

 

[orogenicman]

Does anyone here know why there are so few people who actually understand the science of climate change posting here these days? It is because the forum has been taken over by right wing political pundants who don't even understand the very simple fact that weather and climate are not the same thing. Talking to these people is like talking to a creationist with the exception that at least a creationist can justify their ignorance on religious grounds...

Climate-change-denial IS a religion...so their objections are justified on religious grounds. Their god is carbon-based profits. Even as snownado swarms mow their own house down and it's 65 degrees in Southern California in July, they're all good with it. "Nothing to see here!"...

I don't for a moment consider it a religion. However, I do consider it to be the worst kind of ignorance. Even worse, it is ignorance born of greed and hypocrisy. But it is certainly NOT justified on religious grounds.

 

[Kosh]

Does anyone here know why there are so few people who actually understand the science of climate change posting here these days? It is because the forum has been taken over by right wing political pundants who don't even understand the very simple fact that weather and climate are not the same thing. Talking to these people is like talking to a creationist with the exception that at least a creationist can justify their ignorance on religious grounds...

Climate-change-denial IS a religion...so their objections are justified on religious grounds. Their god is carbon-based profits. Even as snownado swarms mow their own house down and it's 65 degrees in Southern California in July, they're all good with it. "Nothing to see here!"...

I don't for a moment consider it a religion. However, I do consider it to be the worst kind of ignorance. Even worse, it is ignorance born of greed and hypocrisy. But it is certainly NOT justified on religious grounds.

Yes we know that applies to the AGW religion!

 

[skookerasbil]

Does anyone here know why there are so few people who actually understand the science of climate change posting here these days? It is because the forum has been taken over by right wing political pundants who don't even understand the very simple fact that weather and climate are not the same thing. Talking to these people is like talking to a creationist with the exception that at least a creationist can justify their ignorance on religious grounds. And at least creationists for the most part don't use foul and/or insulting language when you converse with them. I can accept that even if I think their denial is irrational. I can accept that because their belief in creationism mostly doesn't hurt anyone but themselves. On the other hand, right wing political pundants who are actively denying the science are hurting everyone because every day nothing is done to mitigate CO2 emissions, because every day their activism against science affects all of us and pushes us further and further away from our former leadership role in the sciences, the more at risk is our future and that of our children, and their children. It really does border on criminal behavior, IMHO. But who the hell wants to have a conversation with some one like theowl32, or Flash, people who obviously have nothing to contribute to the conversation, or even at least one of the moderators, who apparently feels it to be their place to shut down the conversation of anyone who disagrees with them? I certainly see no point to it. But perhaps that was their aim in the first place: To shut down all reasonable discussion and claim, in their eyes at least, some sort of victory. Sorry, folks. Alienating people doesn't make one superior to anyone. And considering the fact that the only ones who appear to be taken to task on the forum rules are those who support climate change science, such behavior certainly isn't contributing to the conversation. So what's the point? Anyone? Why even have an environment forum at all?

Translation?

My shit has been humiliated by crystal clear evidence of the data being rigged!!!

The ENVIRONMENT forum in here is dominated by AGW skeptics........because its easy to dominate with the volumes of evidence of AGW bogusness over recent years..........all chronicled HERE ( 372 pages worth) >>>

More Proof the skeptics are WINNING US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum


Oh.....and would love to poll people in Boston this week about AGW!!!!

 

[Theowl32]

The left wingers are still actually saying this is not a scam. It is a trillion DOLLAR INDUSTRY and they still refuse to see it.

Left wingers.

Utter wastes of shit.

 

[beagle9]

Because these people are socialists and their main goal is attacking capitalism.

Like all leftists, they have to hide their true motives behind a "cause."...

Not at all. Enjoy your capitalism to your heart's content. Go to Congress, talk to your buddies about monopolizing green energy just as you got monopolies on the smudgy power industry back in the last century. Enjoy higher profits while the sun shines by building tandem solar thermal steam generators next to your coal and oil ones.

Nobody says capitalism should go away. Quite the contrary. There's money to be made on green energy! Do it and quit whining.

Meanwhile if you like to make money, it should interest you to know that a destablized world from climate change is one where there's not a lot of people with money and resources to consume the product you're selling. Chaos is a terrible time to be a capitalist. Therefore, your long term investment portfolio should include serious endeavors to help 1. Recognize what happens when ice caps begin melting (the specific heat of water drawing in huge heat energy as it phase changes from solid ice to liquid ocean waters) and the weird warm/cold snaps resulting and 2. Take steps to try to correct the problem; assuming we aren't already beyond a crucial tipping point.

I had made suggestions to this effect. Some are here: Trees in the Desert I Have a Dream.. Page 4 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
Imagine if as a capitalist, you got involved in a project reclaiming desert regions as habitable? Crops could be profited off of, real estate, other types of commerce. Here's a projection tip: as the population swells, food is going to be the next gold; food and fresh water and a place to live. Get busy capitalists! Fix the planet you wrecked last century and secure your future!

Gonna be lots of green in your future and in your wallet too.. Unless you think horse and buggy is still the way to go come hell or high water?...(literally)...

How about maybe controlling the rates of population growth, and then doing it in an humanitarian manor ? Now wouldn't that help more than anything ? Right now we have a government who creates wide spread population growth within the population, and they do this by creating incentives for dependency afterwards. Hey more and more people right, so just build more and more apartment complexes, and create more and more free programs for them until everything is broken or flat broke in the process. What is with the idea behind population booms that are irresponsible in nature, and then are being promoted by a government that should have better sense than this ? It's the democrats and the slave masters steady fighting for either voters or slave laborers to either vote or to work for nothing is what it is all about. No one cares what happens o the ones who don't make it (die in poverty or aborted by the hundreds of thousands), because there will be plenty more soon to take the place of those who got grounded up in the meat grinder. If a nation would institute policies that made growth incentives more responsible in nature, than more irresponsible in nature, then we wouldn't be having the problems that we are having in all of this. Other nations do ridiculous growth for standing armies and such, but we have seen that such concepts are also idiotic in today's times or in times gone by (just more people to die quickly is all). The nuclear age changed a lot of concepts, but why do people ignore what has been learned in all of these years ?

 

[orogenicman]

Because these people are socialists and their main goal is attacking capitalism.

Like all leftists, they have to hide their true motives behind a "cause."...

Not at all. Enjoy your capitalism to your heart's content. Go to Congress, talk to your buddies about monopolizing green energy just as you got monopolies on the smudgy power industry back in the last century. Enjoy higher profits while the sun shines by building tandem solar thermal steam generators next to your coal and oil ones.

Nobody says capitalism should go away. Quite the contrary. There's money to be made on green energy! Do it and quit whining.

Meanwhile if you like to make money, it should interest you to know that a destablized world from climate change is one where there's not a lot of people with money and resources to consume the product you're selling. Chaos is a terrible time to be a capitalist. Therefore, your long term investment portfolio should include serious endeavors to help 1. Recognize what happens when ice caps begin melting (the specific heat of water drawing in huge heat energy as it phase changes from solid ice to liquid ocean waters) and the weird warm/cold snaps resulting and 2. Take steps to try to correct the problem; assuming we aren't already beyond a crucial tipping point.

I had made suggestions to this effect. Some are here: Trees in the Desert I Have a Dream.. Page 4 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
Imagine if as a capitalist, you got involved in a project reclaiming desert regions as habitable? Crops could be profited off of, real estate, other types of commerce. Here's a projection tip: as the population swells, food is going to be the next gold; food and fresh water and a place to live. Get busy capitalists! Fix the planet you wrecked last century and secure your future!

Gonna be lots of green in your future and in your wallet too.. Unless you think horse and buggy is still the way to go come hell or high water?...(literally)...

How about maybe controlling the rates of population growth, and then doing it in an humanitarian manor ? Now wouldn't that help more than anything ? Right now we have a government who creates wide spread population growth within the population, and they do this by creating incentives for dependency afterwards. Hey more and more people right, so just build more and more apartment complexes, and create more and more free programs for them until everything is broken or flat broke in the process. What is with the idea behind population booms that are irresponsible in nature, and then are being promoted by a government that should have better sense than this ? It's the democrats and the slave masters steady fighting for either voters or slave laborers to either vote or to work for nothing is what it is all about. No one cares what happens o the ones who don't make it (die in poverty or aborted by the hundreds of thousands), because there will be plenty more soon to take the place of those who got grounded up in the meat grinder. If a nation would institute policies that made growth incentives more responsible in nature, than more irresponsible in nature, then we wouldn't be having the problems that we are having in all of this. Other nations do ridiculous growth for standing armies and such, but we have seen that such concepts are also idiotic in today's times or in times gone by (just more people to die quickly is all). The nuclear age changed a lot of concepts, but why do people ignore what has been learned in all of these years ?

The problem with your claim is that the population growth of the U.S. is actually rather low compared to many other nations.

 

[Flash]

Does anyone here know why there are so few people who actually understand the science of climate change posting here these days? It is because the forum has been taken over by right wing political pundants who don't even understand the very simple fact that weather and climate are not the same thing. Talking to these people is like talking to a creationist with the exception that at least a creationist can justify their ignorance on religious grounds. And at least creationists for the most part don't use foul and/or insulting language when you converse with them. I can accept that even if I think their denial is irrational. I can accept that because their belief in creationism mostly doesn't hurt anyone but themselves. On the other hand, right wing political pundants who are actively denying the science are hurting everyone because every day nothing is done to mitigate CO2 emissions, because every day their activism against science affects all of us and pushes us further and further away from our former leadership role in the sciences, the more at risk is our future and that of our children, and their children. It really does border on criminal behavior, IMHO. But who the hell wants to have a conversation with some one like theowl32, or Flash, people who obviously have nothing to contribute to the conversation, or even at least one of the moderators, who apparently feels it to be their place to shut down the conversation of anyone who disagrees with them? I certainly see no point to it. But perhaps that was their aim in the first place: To shut down all reasonable discussion and claim, in their eyes at least, some sort of victory. Sorry, folks. Alienating people doesn't make one superior to anyone. And considering the fact that the only ones who appear to be taken to task on the forum rules are those who support climate change science, such behavior certainly isn't contributing to the conversation. So what's the point? Anyone? Why even have an environment forum at all?

There is no science when data is manipulated to get results. Climategate I and II provided the direct evidence of the manipulation. Did you bother even to read the article posted by the OP about the temperature fudge factors being used? What kind of science is that?

Talk about about children this Left Wing religious like belief in something that has absolutely no credible scientific basis is really comical.

Arguing with these Environmental wacko nutcases about AGW is like discussing Islamic religion with Muslim terrorists. They refuse to believe the facts and they make up shit.

 

[orogenicman]

Does anyone here know why there are so few people who actually understand the science of climate change posting here these days? It is because the forum has been taken over by right wing political pundants who don't even understand the very simple fact that weather and climate are not the same thing. Talking to these people is like talking to a creationist with the exception that at least a creationist can justify their ignorance on religious grounds. And at least creationists for the most part don't use foul and/or insulting language when you converse with them. I can accept that even if I think their denial is irrational. I can accept that because their belief in creationism mostly doesn't hurt anyone but themselves. On the other hand, right wing political pundants who are actively denying the science are hurting everyone because every day nothing is done to mitigate CO2 emissions, because every day their activism against science affects all of us and pushes us further and further away from our former leadership role in the sciences, the more at risk is our future and that of our children, and their children. It really does border on criminal behavior, IMHO. But who the hell wants to have a conversation with some one like theowl32, or Flash, people who obviously have nothing to contribute to the conversation, or even at least one of the moderators, who apparently feels it to be their place to shut down the conversation of anyone who disagrees with them? I certainly see no point to it. But perhaps that was their aim in the first place: To shut down all reasonable discussion and claim, in their eyes at least, some sort of victory. Sorry, folks. Alienating people doesn't make one superior to anyone. And considering the fact that the only ones who appear to be taken to task on the forum rules are those who support climate change science, such behavior certainly isn't contributing to the conversation. So what's the point? Anyone? Why even have an environment forum at all?

There is no science when data is manipulated to get results. Climategate I and II provided the direct evidence of the manipulation. Did you bother even to read the article posted by the OP about the temperature fudge factors being used? What kind of science is that?

Talk about about children this Left Wing religious like belief in something that has absolutely no credible scientific basis is really comical.

Arguing with these Environmental wacko nutcases about AGW is like discussing Islamic religion with Muslim terrorists. They refuse to believe the facts and they make up shit.

"Climategate I and II were farces played out by people who don't have the public interest at heart, and are doing everything they can do to discredit science and the people who conduct it. No one was charged with any wrongdoing. In fact, the only people who should have been charged with wrongdoing (the individuals who violated national and international law by hacking into a secure government server and disseminating confidential communications over the internet without the authority to do so) have never been identified. But we do know who used that stolen information, and why. And it had nothing to do with protecting the public.

By the way, taking a page from the creationist play book by calling climate science a religion doesn't actually help your argument. It only makes you look desperate.

And finally, as I've already pointed out, Christopher Booker is not a scientist (he is a creationist who happens to also be a journalist - and not a very good one), and has no credibility whatsoever within the scientific community. Next.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Because these people are socialists and their main goal is attacking capitalism.

Like all leftists, they have to hide their true motives behind a "cause."...

Not at all. Enjoy your capitalism to your heart's content. Go to Congress, talk to your buddies about monopolizing green energy just as you got monopolies on the smudgy power industry back in the last century. Enjoy higher profits while the sun shines by building tandem solar thermal steam generators next to your coal and oil ones.

Nobody says capitalism should go away. Quite the contrary. There's money to be made on green energy! Do it and quit whining.

Meanwhile if you like to make money, it should interest you to know that a destablized world from climate change is one where there's not a lot of people with money and resources to consume the product you're selling. Chaos is a terrible time to be a capitalist. Therefore, your long term investment portfolio should include serious endeavors to help 1. Recognize what happens when ice caps begin melting (the specific heat of water drawing in huge heat energy as it phase changes from solid ice to liquid ocean waters) and the weird warm/cold snaps resulting and 2. Take steps to try to correct the problem; assuming we aren't already beyond a crucial tipping point.

I had made suggestions to this effect. Some are here: Trees in the Desert I Have a Dream.. Page 4 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
Imagine if as a capitalist, you got involved in a project reclaiming desert regions as habitable? Crops could be profited off of, real estate, other types of commerce. Here's a projection tip: as the population swells, food is going to be the next gold; food and fresh water and a place to live. Get busy capitalists! Fix the planet you wrecked last century and secure your future!

Gonna be lots of green in your future and in your wallet too.. Unless you think horse and buggy is still the way to go come hell or high water?...(literally)...

How about maybe controlling the rates of population growth, and then doing it in an humanitarian manor ? Now wouldn't that help more than anything ? Right now we have a government who creates wide spread population growth within the population, and they do this by creating incentives for dependency afterwards. Hey more and more people right, so just build more and more apartment complexes, and create more and more free programs for them until everything is broken or flat broke in the process. What is with the idea behind population booms that are irresponsible in nature, and then are being promoted by a government that should have better sense than this ? It's the democrats and the slave masters steady fighting for either voters or slave laborers to either vote or to work for nothing is what it is all about. No one cares what happens o the ones who don't make it (die in poverty or aborted by the hundreds of thousands), because there will be plenty more soon to take the place of those who got grounded up in the meat grinder. If a nation would institute policies that made growth incentives more responsible in nature, than more irresponsible in nature, then we wouldn't be having the problems that we are having in all of this. Other nations do ridiculous growth for standing armies and such, but we have seen that such concepts are also idiotic in today's times or in times gone by (just more people to die quickly is all). The nuclear age changed a lot of concepts, but why do people ignore what has been learned in all of these years ?

Oh PUHLEASE! Are we going to go back to that old saw?

I'm 53. I remember all that crap. And the population explosion NEVER HAPPENED!!!!

Notice all these leftist causes are about CONTROL????

Liberals claim they want conservatives "out of the bedroom" but liberals want to make sure you don't have any kids or damn few! How INTO THE BEDROOM CAN YOU GET?

Give it a rest libs. No one buys this crap, either.

 

[teapartysamurai]

I wonder if Global Warming will be the primary conversation of all 6 million people living in Assachusetts.

Why, from what I can see, it's winter as usual.

Even if it's winter as usual, that's the key, AS USUAL.

Bottom line: No warming.