Girl found guilty for boyfriend for killing himself

[novasteve]

She's a ****, and deserved to be publically shamed and humiliated, but think of what liberals are doing to do with this. They will eventually extend it to saying anything to someone who later commits suicide. Ie you tell a transgender person that xy=male and they later commit suicide, liberals will want you charged with manslaughter.

 

[RightyTighty]

manslaughter

There are numerous cases in which an omission to act or a failure to perform a duty constitutes criminally negligent manslaughter. The existence of a duty is essential. Since the law does not recognize that an ordinary person has a duty to aid or rescue another in distress, an ensuing death from failure to act would not be manslaughter. On the other hand, an omission in which one has a duty, such as the failure of a lifeguard to attempt to save a drowning person, might constitute the offense.

When the failure to act is reckless or negligent, and not intentional, it is usually manslaughter. If the omission is intentional and death is likely or substantially likely to result, the offense might be murder. When an intent to kill, recklessness, and negligence are present, no offense is committed.

That involves someone killing someone else you dumbass.

"When the failure to act is reckless or negligent"

See what the judge said

"This court has found that Carter's actions and failure to act where it was her self-created duty to Roy since she put him in that toxic environment constituted reckless conduct," the judge said. "The court finds that the conduct caused the death of Mr. Roy."

The court is wrong. This verdict will be overturned. Bet on it.

In what way do you think the judge was wrong? Did she not help plan his death? Could she not have saved him? Did she not have a duty to save him from a situation she helped put him in? Were her actions not reckless?

Basically, if not for her, would he have died that day in that manner?

People understand the emotion, I think. The problem is legality.

Don't yell jump at a jumper or fire in a crowded movie theater.

 

[Mac1958]

She is detestable but not guilty of anything other than being a terrible person.

And, bingo.

Sadly, there are people who are all too willing to punish people for their words. It's a natural impulse for them.

America, 2017: Watch what you say, or we'll get you.
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[RightyTighty]

She is detestable but not guilty of anything other than being a terrible person.

And, bingo.

Sadly, there are people who are all too willing to punish people for their words. It's a natural impulse for them.

America, 2017: Watch what you say, or we'll get you.
.

This isn't new. And what she did deserves more than a good spanking and being grounded for a month.

 

[RightyTighty]

She's a ****, and deserved to be publically shamed and humiliated, but think of what liberals are doing to do with this. They will eventually extend it to saying anything to someone who later commits suicide. Ie you tell a transgender person that xy=male and they later commit suicide, liberals will want you charged with manslaughter.

Nonsense.

 

[TNHarley]

That involves someone killing someone else you dumbass.

"When the failure to act is reckless or negligent"

See what the judge said

"This court has found that Carter's actions and failure to act where it was her self-created duty to Roy since she put him in that toxic environment constituted reckless conduct," the judge said. "The court finds that the conduct caused the death of Mr. Roy."

The court is wrong. This verdict will be overturned. Bet on it.

In what way do you think the judge was wrong? Did she not help plan his death? Could she not have saved him? Did she not have a duty to save him from a situation she helped put him in? Were her actions not reckless?

Basically, if not for her, would he have died that day in that manner?

People understand the emotion, I think. The problem is legality.

Don't yell jump at a jumper or fire in a crowded movie theater.

You can't yell jump at a jumper? Link?

 

[Coyote]

The thing about this case that is so troubling is it sets a slippery slope for how accountable we should be for the effect of our words on another person. What makes it hard to step back from is that she is horrible, truely...she did a terrible thing. She's probably a sociopath.

We have to allow horrible people their right to free speech (such as the Westboro Baptists) even though we don't like them or their message.

We don't like *her* - but that should not influence whether or not she is guilty of manslaughter because of her words.

Very very hard and troubling.

 

[IsaacNewton]

On the surface I also wasn't sure how she was found guilty. However, influencing other people to committ crimes or harm others or themselves has been prosecuted before. John Muhamed influenced Lee Boyd Malvo to assist him in the sniper shootings. Charles Manson didn't himself kill any of those people but he's still in prison for their deaths. There have been many cases where a woman got a man to harm or kill someone and she went to prison for murder, even though she didn't commit the crime.

Emotional connections between people are taken into consideration in many court cases. If someone were just walking by this man's truck and saw him committing suicide and told him to just do it and he did, would they be guilty? Of something? Certainly callousness but is knowingly urging another person on to take their own life and they do it a crime if say they are your spouse? Or niece. Or perhaps a mentally depressed or distraught business partner?

On the surface I thought it clear cut but it isn't.

 

[TNHarley]

On the surface I also wasn't sure how she was found guilty. However, influencing other people to committ crimes or harm others or themselves has been prosecuted before. John Muhamed influenced Lee Boyd Malvo to assist him in the sniper shootings. Charles Manson didn't himself kill any of those people but he's still in prison for their deaths. There have been many cases where a woman got a man to harm or kill someone and she went to prison for murder, even though she didn't commit the crime.

Emotional connections between people are taken into consideration in many court cases. If someone were just walking by this man's truck and saw him committing suicide and told him to just do it and he did, would they be guilty? Of something? Certainly callousness but is knowingly urging another person on to take their own life and they do it a crime if say they are your spouse? Or niece. Or perhaps a mentally depressed or distraught business partner?

On the surface I thought it clear cut but it isn't.

Very true. But the main thing is, those were all crimes. There was NO crime committed in this case.

 

[rightwinger]

The thing about this case that is so troubling is it sets a slippery slope for how accountable we should be for the effect of our words on another person. What makes it hard to step back from is that she is horrible, truely...she did a terrible thing. She's probably a sociopath.

We have to allow horrible people their right to free speech (such as the Westboro Baptists) even though we don't like them or their message.

We don't like *her* - but that should not influence whether or not she is guilty of manslaughter because of her words.

Very very hard and troubling.

This is not a free speech issue, it is a personal responsibility issue
When someone is trying to kill themselves, you have no responsibility to stop them. But encouraging them to proceed with killing themselves and telling him you will no longer be his girlfriend if he chickens out crosses the line

It was gross negligence leading to death

 

[TNHarley]

Assisting a crime and hiding info is illegal.
Reckless manslaughter is illegal. But manslaughter involves someone killing another.
Suicide isn't illegal. Neither is sociopathy or mean words. Kinda sounds like some of you want to outlaw it though...:/
I understand the emotion in this. I understand she is probably a sociopath. She obviously had some sort of illness, if not that, because she is on a few different meds to control it..
Frankly, if you people would have paid attentiono this, you would have see that her wanting him dead was genuine. As crazy as that sounds.. She cared for the guy. The guy was tired of life. He was miserable. He has failed suicide attempts before..
However, in American society, it comes down to law. Not emotion.
No law was broken. Even the judge couldn't show that.

 

[TNHarley]

The thing about this case that is so troubling is it sets a slippery slope for how accountable we should be for the effect of our words on another person. What makes it hard to step back from is that she is horrible, truely...she did a terrible thing. She's probably a sociopath.

We have to allow horrible people their right to free speech (such as the Westboro Baptists) even though we don't like them or their message.

We don't like *her* - but that should not influence whether or not she is guilty of manslaughter because of her words.

Very very hard and troubling.

This is not a free speech issue, it is a personal responsibility issue
When someone is trying to kill themselves, you have no responsibility to stop them. But encouraging them to proceed with killing themselves and telling him you will no longer be his girlfriend if he chickens out crosses the line

It was gross negligence leading to death

Emotional drivel. Why do you want to Inprison people when they don't break the law?
Did you happen to be born in Germany 90 years ago?

 

[TNHarley]

I'm tired of being upset over this ruling. All I can do is hope it gets reversed.
I damn sure don't want this Pandora's box to drive society farther into perversion and irresponsibility.

 

[MindWars]

I'm tired of being upset over this ruling. All I can do is hope it gets reversed.
I damn sure don't want this Pandora's box to drive society farther into perversion and irresponsibility.

That's just like in Cosby's case, if they were able to prosecute him on let's say those seventies cases that would have been real dangerous.
The trendy's would twist this and say it's fending for Cosby, but no it's the law that needs defended.
Since most trendy's can't think outside the box, the dangers are this, any female could go after any man forty years later and say he raped her .

Trendy liberal radical feminist are freaking nut jobs and are capable of reaching out that far as they're on their man hate missions.

 

[TNHarley]

At least this case shows supporting of unconstitutional acts is bipartisan
Well ANOTHER case anyways.

 

[rightwinger]

The thing about this case that is so troubling is it sets a slippery slope for how accountable we should be for the effect of our words on another person. What makes it hard to step back from is that she is horrible, truely...she did a terrible thing. She's probably a sociopath.

We have to allow horrible people their right to free speech (such as the Westboro Baptists) even though we don't like them or their message.

We don't like *her* - but that should not influence whether or not she is guilty of manslaughter because of her words.

Very very hard and troubling.

This is not a free speech issue, it is a personal responsibility issue
When someone is trying to kill themselves, you have no responsibility to stop them. But encouraging them to proceed with killing themselves and telling him you will no longer be his girlfriend if he chickens out crosses the line

It was gross negligence leading to death

Emotional drivel. Why do you want to Inprison people when they don't break the law?
Did you happen to be born in Germany 90 years ago?

Far from it

The judge ruled it to be reckless behavior that resulted in someone elses death. It met the criteria for manslaughter

 

[Rocko]

I agree with the verdict. She even confirmed in a text to her friend that he wouldn't have done it if she didn't command him to do it. There's a special place in hell for someone who does what she did to a person so vulnerable

 

[Rocko]

The thing about this case that is so troubling is it sets a slippery slope for how accountable we should be for the effect of our words on another person. What makes it hard to step back from is that she is horrible, truely...she did a terrible thing. She's probably a sociopath.

We have to allow horrible people their right to free speech (such as the Westboro Baptists) even though we don't like them or their message.

We don't like *her* - but that should not influence whether or not she is guilty of manslaughter because of her words.

Very very hard and troubling.

This is not a free speech issue, it is a personal responsibility issue
When someone is trying to kill themselves, you have no responsibility to stop them. But encouraging them to proceed with killing themselves and telling him you will no longer be his girlfriend if he chickens out crosses the line

It was gross negligence leading to death

Emotional drivel. Why do you want to Inprison people when they don't break the law?
Did you happen to be born in Germany 90 years ago?

Far from it

The judge ruled it to be reckless behavior that resulted in someone elses death. It met the criteria for manslaughter

She gave him specific instructions on how to kill himself. Talk about an evil *****. I have no sympathy for someone like that

 

[TNHarley]

The thing about this case that is so troubling is it sets a slippery slope for how accountable we should be for the effect of our words on another person. What makes it hard to step back from is that she is horrible, truely...she did a terrible thing. She's probably a sociopath.

We have to allow horrible people their right to free speech (such as the Westboro Baptists) even though we don't like them or their message.

We don't like *her* - but that should not influence whether or not she is guilty of manslaughter because of her words.

Very very hard and troubling.

This is not a free speech issue, it is a personal responsibility issue
When someone is trying to kill themselves, you have no responsibility to stop them. But encouraging them to proceed with killing themselves and telling him you will no longer be his girlfriend if he chickens out crosses the line

It was gross negligence leading to death

Emotional drivel. Why do you want to Inprison people when they don't break the law?
Did you happen to be born in Germany 90 years ago?

Far from it

The judge ruled it to be reckless behavior that resulted in someone elses death. It met the criteria for manslaughter

By the very definition f the word, it must be criminal recklessness.
Suicide isn't legal!!

 

[TNHarley]

The thing about this case that is so troubling is it sets a slippery slope for how accountable we should be for the effect of our words on another person. What makes it hard to step back from is that she is horrible, truely...she did a terrible thing. She's probably a sociopath.

We have to allow horrible people their right to free speech (such as the Westboro Baptists) even though we don't like them or their message.

We don't like *her* - but that should not influence whether or not she is guilty of manslaughter because of her words.

Very very hard and troubling.

This is not a free speech issue, it is a personal responsibility issue
When someone is trying to kill themselves, you have no responsibility to stop them. But encouraging them to proceed with killing themselves and telling him you will no longer be his girlfriend if he chickens out crosses the line

It was gross negligence leading to death

Emotional drivel. Why do you want to Inprison people when they don't break the law?
Did you happen to be born in Germany 90 years ago?

Far from it

The judge ruled it to be reckless behavior that resulted in someone elses death. It met the criteria for manslaughter

She gave him specific instructions on how to kill himself. Talk about an evil *****. I have no sympathy for someone like that

I don't either. But this is about the law.