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[Ringo]

In Germany, a gardener was fined for putting up a Christmas tree outside a kindergarten

It would seem that what is wrong with a Christmas tree? For any sane person, this tree either evokes associations with the holiday, or does not cause any emotions. However, in Germany they think differently. In Hamburg, a gardener decided to please the kids, and installed a festive tree with gifts in front of the kindergarten. That's only after that he was given a fine of three thousand euros.

According to German media, 53-year-old Florian Schröder is a hereditary gardener, grows fir trees and sells them in an online store. When he learned that one of the kindergartens would not install a Christmas tree, the man, a kind soul, went and brought the children a Christmas tree as a gift. But the reaction of the kindergarten staff was on the verge of hysteria.

It turned out that the kindergarten did not set up the tree for the sake of “religious equality.” Neoliberal European schizophrenia reached such a stage that “progressive Germans” called Schröder's gift an “act of intimidation” and sued the poor gardener. There, by the way, sided with the hysterical leaders of the kindergarten, and obliged Schröder to pay them three thousand euros. He does not admit his guilt, assuring that he just wanted to make a gift to the children, and “did not think to incite a religious war”.

 

[ESay]

Remember the statue of a Russian soldier in Treptower Park. That's a Russian soldier. Remember dead kids tied by a barbed wire to a post? That's what yours did and do. Let the devil burn them twice every night before going to bed.

Oh, Shurik, stop babbling. How many Ukrainians fought in the Red Army and took part in the partisan movement, remember? And the Vlasov Army, Shurik, it is also your part of the history.

 

[Kruska]

Of course you see only one part. You won't believe, but 'my brothers' say the same about your booby trapping toys. Jesus, you are not even cousins, you are twin-brothers.

Hmm... a thousand years and more of separate states, cultural development and external influences - doesn't really stand for twin brothers, does it?
This Ukraine and Russia issue reminds me more of distant cousins - e.g. Those Saxons in England (English) and those Saxons in Germany (Germans). Naturally the conquest and occupation of former Ukraine (Polish-Lithuania & Austria) brought in or back? the Russian language.

What do you think?

 

[AlexanderPK]

Well that would be more like тихо как в могиле
могиле to my understanding simply stands for grave or grave-mount

But anyway - I got your meaning

Word for word that's what it is but stand alone "могила" is more of an idiomatic expression. Just yesterday had a good laugh on hearing it in our famous movie.

 

[Kruska]

In Germany, a gardener was fined for putting up a Christmas tree outside a kindergarten

It would seem that what is wrong with a Christmas tree? For any sane person, this tree either evokes associations with the holiday, or does not cause any emotions. However, in Germany they think differently. In Hamburg, a gardener decided to please the kids, and installed a festive tree with gifts in front of the kindergarten. That's only after that he was given a fine of three thousand euros.

According to German media, 53-year-old Florian Schröder is a hereditary gardener, grows fir trees and sells them in an online store. When he learned that one of the kindergartens would not install a Christmas tree, the man, a kind soul, went and brought the children a Christmas tree as a gift. But the reaction of the kindergarten staff was on the verge of hysteria.

It turned out that the kindergarten did not set up the tree for the sake of “religious equality.” Neoliberal European schizophrenia reached such a stage that “progressive Germans” called Schröder's gift an “act of intimidation” and sued the poor gardener. There, by the way, sided with the hysterical leaders of the kindergarten, and obliged Schröder to pay them three thousand euros. He does not admit his guilt, assuring that he just wanted to make a gift to the children, and “did not think to incite a religious war”.

Fake news.

Gärtner stellt eigenmächtig Weihnachtsbaum in Kita-Gelände auf - Hausfriedensbruch - News4teachers

HAMBURG. Die Story klingt zunächst absurd. Weil ein Gärtner vergangenes Jahr zur Weihnachtszeit einen Weihnachtsbaum auf dem Gelände einer Hamburger Kita

www.news4teachers.de

 

[AlexanderPK]

Oh, Shurik, stop babbling. How many Ukrainians fought in the Red Army and took part in the partisan movement, remember? And the Vlasov Army, Shurik, it is also your part of the history.

Why then have you bastards forgotten what you fought for? And Vlasov is not our hero whereas you, faggots, chose to invent your new history and found a scumbag to adore.

 

[Zavulon]

A war between two dysfunctional cousins. Remember that, Yurez.

No one is fully functional. And survive and win those, who are a bit more functional. Like Russians.

 

[Zavulon]

Oh, Shurik, stop babbling. How many Ukrainians fought in the Red Army and took part in the partisan movement, remember? And the Vlasov Army, Shurik, it is also your part of the history.

The difference between Vatniks and Banderlogs is simple - Vatniks (and many "ethnic Ukrainians" are Vatniks, too) don't count Vlasov as hero. We don't think that collaboration with German Nazies was a good idea and we don't think that mass murders because of ethnicity is a good idea. We don't think that being a Russian makes a person saint or that all non-Russians should be discriminated, abused and genocided.

 

[Zavulon]

Hmm... a thousand years and more of separate states, cultural development and external influences - doesn't really stand for twin brothers, does it?
This Ukraine and Russia issue reminds me more of distant cousins - e.g. Those Saxons in England (English) and those Saxons in Germany (Germans). Naturally the conquest and occupation of former Ukraine (Polish-Lithuania & Austria) brought in or back? the Russian language.

What do you think?

Actually, there were no "thousand years of the separated states". Borderlands (Ukraine) never were actually cut off from cultural and linguistic unity with the other parts of Russia (even when they were under Polish, German or Lithuanian occupation). The linguistic differences between Moscow Russian and Lvivska Gvara are much lesser than the differences between different German dialects in Germany. And yes, novadays (with radio, TV, internet) there is no a Ukrainian who doesn't understand Moscow Russian.

 

[AlexanderPK]

And yes, novadays (with radio, TV, internet) there is no a Ukrainian who doesn't understand Moscow Russian.

It doesn't work the other way around though. My head explodes when I'm trying to decipher their bloody moyva.

 

[Zavulon]

It doesn't work the other way around though. My head explodes when I'm trying to decipher their bloody moyva.

It's more about time for getting accustomed to the accent and to some local dialectical words. Yes, it sounds a bit weird, may be as weird as Hindish sounds to an Amglish speaker, but its more or less understandable.
You studied English, but you didn't need to study Ukrainian.

 

[Kruska]

Actually, there were no "thousand years of the separated states". Borderlands (Ukraine) never were actually cut off from cultural and linguistic unity with the other parts of Russia (even when they were under Polish, German or Lithuanian occupation). The linguistic differences between Moscow Russian and Lvivska Gvara are much lesser than the differences between different German dialects in Germany. And yes, novadays (with radio, TV, internet) there is no a Ukrainian who doesn't understand Moscow Russian.

As I had stated already - Russian occupation from 1800 onward - automatically brought back or revived the Russian language and Russia enforced it's policies and culture onto today's Ukraine.
From around 800 to 1800 aka a thousand years - the Ukraine wasn't Russian - and even those Rus never represented any majority amongst the Slav population. Neither in Ukraine nor what was later termed the principality of Moscow nor Czarist Russia.

So what is a today's Ukrainian - Slavic people in majority intermixed with Mongols, Poles, Lithuanians, Byzantine and Turkic people. - Same as a Russian.

I have never been to Ukraine - but what I hear from Ukrainian refugees in Germany, they do not view themselves to be Russians.
Just like a today's Austrian or a Swiss is not viewing himself to be a German. Let aside the Austrian corporal, who also believed that the Germans/Aryans came from Tibet.

 

[Zavulon]

As I had stated already - Russian occupation from 1800 onward - automatically brought back or revived the Russian language and Russia enforced it's policies and culture onto today's Ukraine.
From around 800 to 1800 aka a thousand years - the Ukraine wasn't Russian - and even those Rus never represented any majority amongst the Slav population. Neither in Ukraine nor what was later termed the principality of Moscow nor Czarist Russia.

No. Russia was united (and Kiev was captured) by Rurik in 852. In XIV century Kiev became a part of the Great Duchy of Lithuania, Jemaya and Russia. In XV century Lithuania was "real Russia" - Russian population in Lithuania was fifteen times larger than Russian population of the Great Duchy of Moscow. And Moscow was closely tighted with Lithuania and Poland. More or less serious attempts to create Ukrainians started in XIX century (in Austrian-controlled Galicia).

So what is a today's Ukrainian - Slavic people in majority intermixed with Mongols, Poles, Lithuanians, Byzantine and Turkic people. - Same as a Russian.

Slavic is linguistics category. Its not about blood, its about language.

I have never been to Ukraine - but what I hear from Ukrainian refugees in Germany, they do not view themselves to be Russians.

Yes. Thats what they tell you in Germany. In Russia they tell to FSB operatives that they all are Russians.

Just like a today's Austrian or a Swiss is not viewing himself to be a German. Let aside the Austrian corporal, who also believed that the Germans/Aryans came from Tibet.

If I understood correctly, zaangalewa is Austrian and she see herself as a German.
But yes, the questions of identity may be really complicated.

 

[zaangalewa]

You and your Nazi brothers are in terrible economic and financial trouble , Bangabangawa , and you should be grateful that other countries are offering you food parcels and low interest loans ,

Throw down your weapons and be gracious to your smarter neighbours in your time of desperate needs .

Vote AFD and encourage others to see that you are learning .

Russian or US-Russian Nazi, Soviet and slave of Putin, slave of Donald Trump, slave of Kim Jong-Un and slave of Elon Murks and whatever other slave holders and possible tyrants in whatever world: I'm tired of you and your masters! Specially tell your master Putin to end his stupid, senseless and criminal war in the Ukraine. Leave the Ukraine with all of your soldiers. Yesterday! Ukraine to the Ukrainians, anti-American!

 

[zaangalewa]

In Germany, a gardener was fined for putting up a Christmas tree outside a kindergarten

It would seem that what is wrong with a Christmas tree? For any sane person, this tree either evokes associations with the holiday, or does not cause any emotions. However, in Germany they think differently. In Hamburg, a gardener decided to please the kids, and installed a festive tree with gifts in front of the kindergarten. That's only after that he was given a fine of three thousand euros.

According to German media, 53-year-old Florian Schröder is a hereditary gardener, grows fir trees and sells them in an online store. When he learned that one of the kindergartens would not install a Christmas tree, the man, a kind soul, went and brought the children a Christmas tree as a gift. But the reaction of the kindergarten staff was on the verge of hysteria.

It turned out that the kindergarten did not set up the tree for the sake of “religious equality.” Neoliberal European schizophrenia reached such a stage that “progressive Germans” called Schröder's gift an “act of intimidation” and sued the poor gardener. There, by the way, sided with the hysterical leaders of the kindergarten, and obliged Schröder to pay them three thousand euros. He does not admit his guilt, assuring that he just wanted to make a gift to the children, and “did not think to incite a religious war”.

No headline is able to be stupid enough. "Germany the country hating Christmas trees!". Has anyone in the world any idea what he tries to speak about? As far as I heard Florian Schröder heard that a kindergarten had no Christmas tree and brought them one. The Christmas tree is by the way not really a religious symbol. It's simply an old custom. Who for heavens sake was able to think that the responsible person/persons for a kindergarten get an ideological heart attach because of a fake-intellectual allergy against Christmas trees? There are weirdos all over the world.

By the way: In Germany exists for people who never reach their goal the expression "auf keinen grünen Zweig kommen" = "not get on a green branch" = "get nowhere green". The background is that "since ever" someone got a green branch who found(ed) a home. Green is the color of hope and the color of "the luck of the Irish" (=or also of the cosiness of the "B-irish" = "Bayerisch" = Bavarians, which is easily comparable also with the hyyge of the Danes or whatever other form of living in joy and peace.)

 

[zaangalewa]

Ringo

This had happened in 2023:

Über die Homepage des Trägers dementierte die Kita die Vorwürfe und erklärte damals: „Auch in diesem Jahr gibt es in allen Finkenau Einrichtungen (auch in der Kita Mobi) wieder viele weihnachtliche Bräuche wie Adventskalender, Adventskränze, Weihnachtsbäume und in einigen Kitas sind sogar Wichtel eingezogen. Zudem gibt es Dekoration wie Tannenzweige, Kugeln und Lichterketten. Dies sind nur einige Beispiele dafür, wie unsere Einrichtungen die schöne Vorweihnachtszeit für die Kinder erlebbar machen. Wie bei uns seit über 47 Jahren üblich, entschieden die Teams (gemeinsam mit den Kindern), wie sie die Einrichtung schmücken wollen. In der Kita Mobi, die seit 10 Jahren besteht, habe es seither mindestens dreimal einen Weihnachtsbaum gegeben“ – vergangenes Jahr nur eben nicht.
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The daycare center denied the allegations via the provider's website and explained at the time: “This year, all Finkenau facilities (including the Mobi daycare center) once again have many Christmas traditions such as Advent calendars, Advent wreaths, Christmas trees and some daycare centers even have elves. There are also decorations such as fir branches, baubles and fairy lights. These are just a few examples of how our facilities bring the beautiful pre-Christmas period to life for the children. As has been our custom for over 47 years, the teams (together with the children) decide how they want to decorate the facility. In the Mobi daycare center, which has been in existence for 10 years, there has been a Christmas tree at least three times since then” - but not last year.

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The real background: A pro-American newspaper made an absurde article that the kindergarten attacked the freedom of religion with a ban of Christmas trees. So Florian Schröder decided to help the children there because he thought they will have no joy at Christmas and installed a Christmas tree there outside in the garden. But meanwhile because of this stupid article many parents and teachers had been verbally attacked and they drove nervous so they informed the police. The only interesting question in this context had been: Was it trespassing because he had entered the property of the kindergarten without permission or was it - since the gate was open - actually only comparable to throwing in advertising? Whatever. The poor guy had to pay €500. No idea who got the money.

 

[ESay]

Hmm... a thousand years and more of separate states, cultural development and external influences - doesn't really stand for twin brothers, does it?
This Ukraine and Russia issue reminds me more of distant cousins - e.g. Those Saxons in England (English) and those Saxons in Germany (Germans). Naturally the conquest and occupation of former Ukraine (Polish-Lithuania & Austria) brought in or back? the Russian language.

What do you think?

Ukrainian and Russian nationalists are close in their idiocy as twin brothers. That is what I meant.

Not sure if I understand your question properly about the language. The Old Rus language became dividing on regional branches when the united Rus state became finally disintegrating. This old language also had local dialects, and this language isn't Russian or Ukrainian in contemporary meaning. Even the Church Slavic is a modernised version of that language.

These regional branches were developing through centuries, experiencing influence from other language groups and from each other. Russian idiot-nationalists like to repeat that Ukrainian is an artificial language invented by the Austrians. Though, these idiots can't even grasp that the modern Ukrainian is based on so called Poltava dialect, which never was part of the Austrian empire.

 

[ESay]

Why then have you bastards forgotten what you fought for? And Vlasov is not our hero whereas you, faggots, chose to invent your new history and found a scumbag to adore.

Here, I have to agree. The nationalistic groups in the WWII became a vital part of the Ukrainian state ideology now. I don't know whether there will be a return to normalcy. I personally don't support that. But you can't bitch about that. Your idiotic regime was among those ones who took part in creating such a state.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

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[AlexanderPK]

Here, I have to agree. The nationalistic groups in the WWII became a vital part of the Ukrainian state ideology now. I don't know whether there will be a return to normalcy. I personally don't support that. But you can't bitch about that. Your idiotic regime was among those ones who took part in creating such a state.

Our idiotic regime was as yours as it was ours but the next day they signed that stupid treaty you, lo and behold, look at us poor bastards, were hindsightedly singled out and oppressed and then starved to death by the Bolsheviks while we stole all the spoils. Now with the Soviet electricity almost gone and the West tired of feeding you freeloaders might be the time for you to see what starved may mean. Cousin my ass, Mykola the poor.