Germany IS Emulating the French

[Annie]

I guess I've been wrong, links, a call to action, and pics:

http://medienkritik.typepad.com/blog/2005/02/america_you_jus.html

America You Just Don’t Get It…
Despite Germany’s Fascist past, despite the fact that Germany wants to export weapons to Communist China, despite the fact that Germany has turned a blind eye to atrocities in Chechnya, despite the fact that Germany openly allows housing discrimination, despite the fact that German police openly and legally racially profile, despite the fact that Germany has virtually no minority representatives in its national government, despite the fact that Germany has been dependent on the US since World War II for its defense and reunification, despite the fact that Germany has a massive, chronic unemployment problem…over five million out of work and climbing, despite a hopelessly complicated tax system, a declining educational system, despite the fact that Germany has a national ID card and a national registration system far more intrusive on private rights than anything in the Patriot Act, despite the fact that German state television continues to present the situation in Iraq twice as negatively as it was under Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship and barely draws a distinction between democracy and dictatorship, despite the fact that Germany continues to trade with the world’s most vicious dictators…


Despite those facts…


Now this: Extreme right-wing parties have won election to two state parliaments and are growing in numbers by the day. Life has become so “wonderful” under the Socialist-Green German government that hundreds of Germans are turning to neo-Fascist, neo-Nazi parties for answers. Neo-Nazi and hard right parties are experiencing a rebirth and all that the “mainstream” parties can do about it is argue and hold symbolic marches. How about they put their brains together and do something real to solve Germany’s problems? How about the German media stop bashing America and the liberation of 50 million oppressed Muslims so much and focus a little bit more on Germany’s problems? That’s right, focus more on your own country, what a novel idea!

Carnival Float in Mainz, Germany Two Weeks Before the President's Visit There.

Historic Note: Seventy years ago, a different group was often the target of German carnival "humor."


BUT guess WHAT America! It doesn’t matter how bad things get in Germany! It doesn’t matter if the neo-Nazis are on the march. Despite all of that, Germans and the German media are morally superior to the United States and the evil, religious fanatic cowboy George W. Bush. Never forget: Germany is a moderate, tolerant and open-minded society you cowboy morons! That is why George W. Bush’s approval ratings here are about as low as the Führer’s approval ratings were high! It is a proud German tradition, when we love you, we really love you and when we hate you, we really hate you…and your media image is always the key! So wake up! It’s not Germany that has the problem, it is America. Why can’t America just be more like Germany?…

UPDATE: HEY USA! This is what the city of Mainz, Germany (the city that will host President Bush in two weeks) thinks of you. CLICK HERE.


Davids Medienkritik encourages all Americans to email, call and write their elected representatives with a link or reference to this article:


http://medienkritik.typepad.com/blog/2005/02/america_you_jus.html

If you would like to contact the city of Mainz, Germany with your opinion, email the Mainz Office for Public Relations at: [email protected]

HERE is a webpage with further contact info for Mainz, Germany.

 

[onedomino]

Four years ago, I went to school in Munchen, among the German "intellectual" elite. The word "cowboy" was not yet in vogue, but anti-Americanism certainly was. I had many conversations about international relations with young Germans, and some older professors. There is a definite awareness in Germans of the domestic and international atrocities committed 60 years ago. But I also noticed a willingness to believe that such atrocities were exaggerated and that Germany was barbarically bombed by the allies. In other words, young Germans feel oppressed and maligned regarding the past. They say, “that was not us.” Moreover, they feel that their chief oppressor is the "Jewish controlled" United States (quotes are from my conversations with Germans). They believe that America and Israel often focus on unjustly reminding Germany of its past. I believe that many in Germany are ashamed of the past, but it relieves their mass psychology of historical guilt and angst to see America having a difficult time in Iraq. Certainly there are many Germans who hope that America fails in Iraq. Germans could not care less about Iraqis; but they do believe that "Jewish controlled" America is getting what it deserves. Perhaps "nosarcasm" will disagree. But I was startled by the fact that I met more people hostile to America in my first week of living in Germany, than I did in two years of living in Shanghai.

 

[Annie]

Four years ago, I went to school in Munchen, among the German "intellectual" elite. The word "cowboy" was not yet in vogue, but anti-Americanism certainly was. I had many conversations about international relations with young Germans, and some older professors. There is a definite awareness in Germans of the domestic and international atrocities committed 60 years ago. But I also noticed a willingness to believe that such atrocities were exaggerated and that Germany was barbarically bombed by the allies. In other words, young Germans feel oppressed and maligned regarding the past. They say, “that was not us.” Moreover, they feel that their chief oppressor is the "Jewish controlled" United States (quotes are from my conversations with Germans). They believe that America and Israel often focus on unjustly reminding Germany of its past. I believe that many in Germany are ashamed of the past, but it relieves their mass psychology of historical guilt and angst to see America having a difficult time in Iraq. Certainly there are many Germans who hope that America fails in Iraq. Germans could not care less about Iraqis; but they do believe that "Jewish controlled" America is getting what it deserves. Perhaps "nosarcasm" will disagree. But I was startled by the fact that I met more people hostile to America in my first week of living in Germany, than I did in two years of living in Shanghai.

Very depressing and brings to mind the quotation:

"Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. In the first stage of life the mind is frivolous and easily distracted, it misses progress by failing in consecutiveness and persistence. This is the condition of children and barbarians, in which instinct has learned nothing from experience."
George Santayana (1863 - 1952), The Life of Reason, Volume 1, 1905

 

[nosarcasm]

Four years ago, I went to school in Munchen, among the German "intellectual" elite. The word "cowboy" was not yet in vogue, but anti-Americanism certainly was. I had many conversations about international relations with young Germans, and some older professors. There is a definite awareness in Germans of the domestic and international atrocities committed 60 years ago. But I also noticed a willingness to believe that such atrocities were exaggerated and that Germany was barbarically bombed by the allies. In other words, young Germans feel oppressed and maligned regarding the past. They say, “that was not us.” Moreover, they feel that their chief oppressor is the "Jewish controlled" United States (quotes are from my conversations with Germans). They believe that America and Israel often focus on unjustly reminding Germany of its past. I believe that many in Germany are ashamed of the past, but it relieves their mass psychology of historical guilt and angst to see America having a difficult time in Iraq. Certainly there are many Germans who hope that America fails in Iraq. Germans could not care less about Iraqis; but they do believe that "Jewish controlled" America is getting what it deserves. Perhaps "nosarcasm" will disagree. But I was startled by the fact that I met more people hostile to America in my first week of living in Germany, than I did in two years of living in Shanghai.

since the beginning of the Iraq war I d think that is a very accurate
desciption of the college kids attitudes. While the left (that also dominates
the educational system in Germany) has always been anti- American to a degree the new mix is conservative/nationalist that are sick of hearing
about the holocaust and having to prove that are not "Nazis".
Combined with the bad press for Bush and his neoconservatives there
is a large anti American movement in Germany representing the 80% or so that are against the war in Iraq.

The Neo Nazi partys always have made it occasionally into the state parliament. Usually after 4 years they do not get reelected. But
only they are the ones that openly compare terror bombings with the
holocaust. (which caused quite some stir).

 

[Zebra]

How?

 

[Ringo]

"A group of French lawmakers have warned Macron that Paris is being pushed out of Africa by other world powers, including Russia, China and the United States."

Until the Europeans get their heads in the Game that they are being destroyed economically, the Euro decline will continue .Their salvation is to get as far away from Washington as possible

 

[luiza]

"A group of French lawmakers have warned Macron that Paris is being pushed out of Africa by other world powers, including Russia, China and the United States."

It has me giggling like some demented old crow, but I love seeing the US suffer from having to take the medicine it has handed out for so long . But the Chinese and Russians go about their business so much more intelligently and pragmatically .If only this dying race of Americans would take time- out , shut their big mouths and listen and learn .

 

[zaangalewa]

Four years ago, I went to school in Munchen, among the German "intellectual" elite. The word "cowboy" was not yet in vogue, but anti-Americanism certainly was. I had many conversations about international relations with young Germans, and some older professors. There is a definite awareness in Germans of the domestic and international atrocities committed 60 years ago. But I also noticed a willingness to believe that such atrocities were exaggerated and that Germany was barbarically bombed by the allies. In other words, young Germans feel oppressed and maligned regarding the past. They say, that was not us. Moreover, they feel that their chief oppressor is the "Jewish controlled" United States (quotes are from my conversations with Germans). ....

Germany on Arcturus IV, Russian?

It was by the way a heavy titanic war crime what the allies did do when they bombed Germany in world war 2. In other words: It was a heavy titanic war crime what the allies of world war 2 did do when they bombed Germany in world war 2. And it was also a very heavy war crime when the alllies of world war 2 displaced in masses Germans and wiped out complete German nations. To say so makes no one to a Nazi. And when someone speaks about the "Jewish controlled" USA then he is an unreal idiot and anti-Semite - that's all - and not an "intellectual".

 

[zaangalewa]

... I believe that many in Germany are ashamed of the past ...

Why should any German be ashamed about any past which is not his own past?

 

[zaangalewa]

... to see America having a difficult time in Iraq. ...

The war of the USA on the Iraq hurted international laws. In the end this totally stupid war was used as an excuse from Russia since 2008 to attack also foreign countries.

 

[zaangalewa]

... But I was startled by the fact that I met more people hostile to America in my first week of living in Germany, than I did in two years of living in Shanghai. ...

But less people who were "hostile" to US-America than you met on one day in the USA.

 

[zaangalewa]

since the beginning of the Iraq war I d think that is a very accurate
desciption of the college kids attitudes. While the left (that also dominates
the educational system in Germany) has always been anti- American to a degree the new mix is conservative/nationalist that are sick of hearing
about the holocaust and having to prove that are not "Nazis".
Combined with the bad press for Bush and his neoconservatives there
is a large anti American movement in Germany representing the 80% or so that are against the war in Iraq.

The Neo Nazi partys always have made it occasionally into the state parliament. Usually after 4 years they do not get reelected. But
only they are the ones that openly compare terror bombings with the
holocaust. (which caused quite some stir).

Okay. It is really Germany on Arcturus IV what you try to speak about here.