Gaza...

[pbel]

Washington (AFP) - Amid the escalating death toll in Gaza, US officials finally sharpened their tone Wednesday condemning an attack on a UN school as patience with "crazy" Israeli criticism of would-be-peacemaker John Kerry snapped.




Israel is slowly losing its strongest ally!


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"Obviously nothing justifies the killing of innocent civilians seeking shelter in a UN facility," deputy State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf acknowledged, in some of the toughest US comments since the start of the 23-day fighting in the Gaza Strip.

 

[Daniyel]

US slams Gaza strike, 'crazy' Israeli attacks on Kerry -> Accueil | AFP.com ->[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eww7BkkvFdo"] Palestinian Reporters.[/ame]

 

[LAfrique]

History will record the Cowardly Bombings of Gaza as a "Crime against Humanity," and will inspire writers and artists for generations to document the similarities of Gaza to Guernica...

This following passage from a correspondent from Guernica could be describing Gaza with the same exact words...

The Bombing of Guernica, 1937

"...collecting charred bodies that the flames had passed over. Some of the soldiers were sobbing like children. There were flames and-smoke and grit, and the smell of burning human flesh was nauseating. Houses were collapsing into the inferno.

In the Plaza, surrounded almost by a wall of fire, were about a hundred refugees. They were wailing and weeping and rocking to and fro. One middle-aged man spoke English. He told me: 'At four, before the-market closed, many aeroplanes came. They dropped bombs. Some came low and shot bullets into the streets. Father Aroriategui was wonderful. He prayed with the people in the Plaza while the bombs fell.'..

What is happening in Gaza is more than cowardice. I now also believe that the Jews and "Israelis" in Israel are a version of Britain's captain Cook's cargo and Britain's Child Migrants to Australia: These people were mainly propaganda and means to dominate by the ever-wicked British thugs. I say, let Israel or "Jewish Nation" be sent to Great Britain for their Milk and Honey (or Oranges and Sunshine).

Palestine, Israel and God - Palestine, Israel and God - Yahoo Voices - voices.yahoo.com

 

[pbel]

History will record the Cowardly Bombings of Gaza as a "Crime against Humanity," and will inspire writers and artists for generations to document the similarities of Gaza to Guernica...

This following passage from a correspondent from Guernica could be describing Gaza with the same exact words...

The Bombing of Guernica, 1937

"...collecting charred bodies that the flames had passed over. Some of the soldiers were sobbing like children. There were flames and-smoke and grit, and the smell of burning human flesh was nauseating. Houses were collapsing into the inferno.

In the Plaza, surrounded almost by a wall of fire, were about a hundred refugees. They were wailing and weeping and rocking to and fro. One middle-aged man spoke English. He told me: 'At four, before the-market closed, many aeroplanes came. They dropped bombs. Some came low and shot bullets into the streets. Father Aroriategui was wonderful. He prayed with the people in the Plaza while the bombs fell.'..

What is happening in Gaza is more than cowardice. I now also believe that the Jews and "Israelis" in Israel are a version of Britain's captain Cook's cargo and Britain's Child Migrants to Australia: These people were mainly propaganda and means to dominate by the ever-wicked British thugs. I say, let Israel or "Jewish Nation" be sent to Great Britain for their Milk and Honey (or Oranges and Sunshine).

Palestine, Israel and God - Palestine, Israel and God - Yahoo Voices - voices.yahoo.com

I don't think there is any doubt that Israel has committed unspeakable War Crimes!
http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2014/07/31/pillay-israel-hamas-committing-war-crimes


By KARIN LAUB and JOHN HEILPRIN, Associated Press

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — Nearly a month into Israel's fierce assault on Hamas in Gaza, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas is facing mounting domestic pressure to seek war crimes charges against Israel at the International Criminal Court.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

I'm pretty sure I can find a few Jewish dudes on youtube, ranting on about destroying Islam.
What's your point?

My point is that Jewish Rabbis and Christians Priests doesn't incite for war based on religion..

They are inciting the defense of their land and homes of a millennia from European and American invaders...That is their view, Israel was created by UN declarations and by the force of arms of Zionists...It has nothing to do with Religion...

Did you ever read the Hamas Charter?

 

[pbel]

My point is that Jewish Rabbis and Christians Priests doesn't incite for war based on religion..

They are inciting the defense of their land and homes of a millennia from European and American invaders...That is their view, Israel was created by UN declarations and by the force of arms of Zionists...It has nothing to do with Religion...

Did you ever read the Hamas Charter?

Hey, I believe Hamas committed crimes too...Killing Civilians or putting them in jeopardy is a crime... I hope they roundup the criminals on both sides and end this madness!

 

[Indofred]

Madness is not a state of mind, Islam is a place.. they fight each other and everyone who is not Muslim, anywhere and for any reason - on top of that - because the "Convert or Kill"
Because of that, Muslim states doesn't like us anyway.

Get real, the extremists do that, exactly as extremist Jews do.
Come to think of it, extremist Christians and Buddhists have their moments as well.

Your post doesn't fit with reality, unless you refine it to include only extremists, but of all factions.

 

[Daniyel]

Madness is not a state of mind, Islam is a place.. they fight each other and everyone who is not Muslim, anywhere and for any reason - on top of that - because the "Convert or Kill"
Because of that, Muslim states doesn't like us anyway.

Get real, the extremists do that, exactly as extremist Jews do.
Come to think of it, extremist Christians and Buddhists have their moments as well.

Your post doesn't fit with reality, unless you refine it to include only extremists, but of all factions.

Take a look..It pretty much summarize my answer..
[MENTION=38033]Indofred[/MENTION]

The problem with the Palestinians shrink to the size of problems with the radical Muslims among them, or those around us - I don't know if you read the post where I mentioned all the terrorist organizations hostile that are known to Israel when people start "conspiracy" how we in Israel need Hamas to torture Palestinians..Ending Hamas is not only a great relief for Israel, but also major push to the Palestinians to step forward to the 'Arab Spring'..and I didn't said a word about Egypt so far.
matter of fact Palestinians enjoy better rights and life in general in Israel compared to Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan, and Iraq..

 

[toastman]

Madness is not a state of mind, Islam is a place.. they fight each other and everyone who is not Muslim, anywhere and for any reason - on top of that - because the "Convert or Kill"
Because of that, Muslim states doesn't like us anyway.

Get real, the extremists do that, exactly as extremist Jews do.
Come to think of it, extremist Christians and Buddhists have their moments as well.

Your post doesn't fit with reality, unless you refine it to include only extremists, but of all factions.

Actually, his post very much fits with reality. It's true that all religions have extremists, but when it comes to daily mass murder, torture, oppression, treating women like crap, beheading, Islam takes the cake.
Of course not all Muslims are jihadists/terrorists but most terrorists are Muslims.
Islam truly is a cancer of the world, and it's a shame for all the good Muslims there who are peaceful.

 

[pbel]

Madness is not a state of mind, Islam is a place.. they fight each other and everyone who is not Muslim, anywhere and for any reason - on top of that - because the "Convert or Kill"
Because of that, Muslim states doesn't like us anyway.

Get real, the extremists do that, exactly as extremist Jews do.
Come to think of it, extremist Christians and Buddhists have their moments as well.

Your post doesn't fit with reality, unless you refine it to include only extremists, but of all factions.

Actually, his post very much fits with reality. It's true that all religions have extremists, but when it comes to daily mass murder, torture, oppression, treating women like crap, beheading, Islam takes the cake.
Of course not all Muslims are jihadists/terrorists but most terrorists are Muslims.
Islam truly is a cancer of the world, and it's a shame for all the good Muslims there who are peaceful.

From the way Jews have been treated, I would not cast stones!

 

[Indofred]

Madness is not a state of mind, Islam is a place.. they fight each other and everyone who is not Muslim, anywhere and for any reason - on top of that - because the "Convert or Kill"
Because of that, Muslim states doesn't like us anyway.

Get real, the extremists do that, exactly as extremist Jews do.
Come to think of it, extremist Christians and Buddhists have their moments as well.

Your post doesn't fit with reality, unless you refine it to include only extremists, but of all factions.

Take a look..It pretty much summarize my answer.
[MENTION=38033]Indofred[/MENTION]

Nice try, but rubbish.

"The radicals are estimated to be between 15 and 25%".

Considering the massive number of Muslims in the world, that's a hell of an margin of error.
She then went on to assume the highest estimate was the case, telling the world 75% of Muslims were nice; of course, it could be 85%, but her logic didn't accept that, or even that the wildly varying numbers were probably bullshit anyway.

Many Muslims do feel there is a propaganda war against Muslims, and there is.
We see it so often on this board, and that's before we consider the press.



Your video does make a point, but in my favour.

 

[Daniyel]

[MENTION=38033]Indofred[/MENTION]
For the Israelis it doesn't matter much, even if 1% are radical they outnumber us by millions ..
The statistics can be debatable but its not the point, the peaceful Muslims are irrelevant (not to say 'support by default' other Muslims) - let me introduce you to the numbers in Israel, 40+ hostile terrorist organizations, compared to the number of Palestinians that's..

 

[Indofred]

Actually, his post very much fits with reality. It's true that all religions have extremists, but when it comes to daily mass murder, torture, oppression, treating women like crap, beheading, Islam takes the cake.
Of course not all Muslims are jihadists/terrorists but most terrorists are Muslims.
Islam truly is a cancer of the world, and it's a shame for all the good Muslims there who are peaceful.

I have to disagree.
Many societies treat women like crap, including some Christians in America and some Jews in Israel.
Your post suggests all Muslims are crap to women, and that simply isn't true.

Daily mass murder is being seem in Gaza at the moment. The vast majority of the casualties are civilians, about 1/5 being children.
Other countries have engaged in mass murder of civilians, but carpet bombing Cambodia was a "secret war", not mass murder.
Torture works out well for America.
They executed Japanese troops for torturing Americans by water boarding them, but water boarding was a legitimate form of information gathering for prisoners in America's Cuban base.
We could move on to kidnapping innocents, but we have to call it "extraordinary rendition", even when you get the wrong people.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/14/w...ia-rendition-victim-khaled-el-masri.html?_r=0

BERLIN — A German man who was mistaken for a terrorist and abducted nine years ago won a measure of redress on Thursday when the European Court of Human Rights ruled that his rights had been violated and confirmed his account that he had been seized by Macedonia, handed over to the C.I.A., brutalized and detained for months in Afghanistan.

That wasn't kidnap and torture, it was an error in extraordinary rendition and information gathering.
Treating women like shit, just like these Muslims.

Sorry, they were Jews treating women like shit - am I allowed to mention that?

There is clearly a massive problem with some Muslims, I make no denial or excuse for the bastards of my religion that engage in such rubbish, but we have to realise something; the western press feed us shit, totally ignoring many problems in other groups, but blaming "Muslims" for the problems of some in my religious group.

Unless "Christians"

are all hate filled, anti American bastards.

 

[Indofred]

[MENTION=38033]Indofred[/MENTION]
For the Israelis it doesn't matter much, even if 1% are radical they outnumber us by millions ..
The statistics can be debatable but its not the point, the peaceful Muslims are irrelevant (not to say 'support by default' other Muslims) - let me introduce you to the numbers in Israel, 40+ hostile terrorist organizations, compared to the number of Palestinians that's..

Ah, Muslims outnumber Jews by millions, but you take the murder toll as if they both have equal numbers.

What, 14 million or so Jews in the world, against 1.6 billion Muslims.
"Jews" have killed a little less than 1,500 people this week.

Let me see.
1,600,000,000 divided by 14,000,000 gives us a multiplication factor of about 114.
If 1,500 people have been killed in Gaza, to compare the number to the numbers killed by Muslims this week, we must multiply by 114.

Pro rata, that means "Jews" have killed 159,600 people this week.

The worse, most biased sites on the internet claim Muslims murder 100,000 people per year.
Even if that's true, pro rata, "Jews" have doubled that death toll in a little over a week.

Care to complain about the number of Muslims again?

 

[toastman]

Actually, his post very much fits with reality. It's true that all religions have extremists, but when it comes to daily mass murder, torture, oppression, treating women like crap, beheading, Islam takes the cake.
Of course not all Muslims are jihadists/terrorists but most terrorists are Muslims.
Islam truly is a cancer of the world, and it's a shame for all the good Muslims there who are peaceful.

I have to disagree.
Many societies treat women like crap, including some Christians in America and some Jews in Israel.
Your post suggests all Muslims are crap to women, and that simply isn't true.

Daily mass murder is being seem in Gaza at the moment. The vast majority of the casualties are civilians, about 1/5 being children.
Other countries have engaged in mass murder of civilians, but carpet bombing Cambodia was a "secret war", not mass murder.
Torture works out well for America.
They executed Japanese troops for torturing Americans by water boarding them, but water boarding was a legitimate form of information gathering for prisoners in America's Cuban base.
We could move on to kidnapping innocents, but we have to call it "extraordinary rendition", even when you get the wrong people.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/14/w...ia-rendition-victim-khaled-el-masri.html?_r=0

BERLIN — A German man who was mistaken for a terrorist and abducted nine years ago won a measure of redress on Thursday when the European Court of Human Rights ruled that his rights had been violated and confirmed his account that he had been seized by Macedonia, handed over to the C.I.A., brutalized and detained for months in Afghanistan.

That wasn't kidnap and torture, it was an error in extraordinary rendition and information gathering.
Treating women like shit, just like these Muslims.

Sorry, they were Jews treating women like shit - am I allowed to mention that?

There is clearly a massive problem with some Muslims, I make no denial or excuse for the bastards of my religion that engage in such rubbish, but we have to realise something; the western press feed us shit, totally ignoring many problems in other groups, but blaming "Muslims" for the problems of some in my religious group.

Unless "Christians"

are all hate filled, anti American bastards.

No other religion treats women as crappy as Muslims do. Women are seen as inferior and as possessions to some Muslim men.

MAN BEATS WIFE FOR INTERRUPTING HIM:

LiveLeak.com - Iranian Kicks the crao out of his Wife for Interrupting Him

 

[toastman]

[MENTION=38033]Indofred[/MENTION]
For the Israelis it doesn't matter much, even if 1% are radical they outnumber us by millions ..
The statistics can be debatable but its not the point, the peaceful Muslims are irrelevant (not to say 'support by default' other Muslims) - let me introduce you to the numbers in Israel, 40+ hostile terrorist organizations, compared to the number of Palestinians that's..

Ah, Muslims outnumber Jews by millions, but you take the murder toll as if they both have equal numbers.

What, 14 million or so Jews in the world, against 1.6 billion Muslims.
"Jews" have killed a little less than 1,500 people this week.

Let me see.
1,600,000,000 divided by 14,000,000 gives us a multiplication factor of about 114.
If 1,500 people have been killed in Gaza, to compare the number to the numbers killed by Muslims this week, we must multiply by 114.

Pro rata, that means "Jews" have killed 159,600 people this week.

The worse, most biased sites on the internet claim Muslims murder 100,000 people per year.
Even if that's true, pro rata, "Jews" have doubled that death toll in a little over a week.

Care to complain about the number of Muslims again?

Wtf kind of logic is that? So because Muslims outnumber Jews by a large amount, we have to just accept that Muslims atrocities are higher?
BTS, what's happening in Gaza is war. Civilians are killed as a result of collateral damage. Considering the thousands of separate attacks Israel has done, the death toll is not that high. Of course it would be great if no civilians died.

There are about two billion Christians in this world. Are you going to try to tell me that they commit as much atrocities as Muslims?

Islam is a cancer to the world. The never ending atrocities that they commit are seen daily, from the Middle East to Africa.

 

[Indofred]

No other religion treats women as crappy as Muslims do. Women are seen as inferior and as possessions to some Muslim men.

MAN BEATS WIFE FOR INTERRUPTING HIM:

LiveLeak.com - Iranian Kicks the crao out of his Wife for Interrupting Him

What about my linked photos of Jews treating women like shit; do you deny "Jews" treat women this way?
You take a few examples and blame "Muslims", but totally ignore Jewish examples.
Sorry, stupidity isn't debate.

 

[Indeependent]

No other religion treats women as crappy as Muslims do. Women are seen as inferior and as possessions to some Muslim men.

MAN BEATS WIFE FOR INTERRUPTING HIM:

LiveLeak.com - Iranian Kicks the crao out of his Wife for Interrupting Him

What about my linked photos of Jews treating women like shit; do you deny "Jews" treat women this way?
You take a few examples and blame "Muslims", but totally ignore Jewish examples.
Sorry, stupidity isn't debate.

You are SERIOUSLY equating a separate entrance with wife beating and burning?
Are you ******* retarded?

 

[Indofred]

[MENTION=38033]Indofred[/MENTION]
For the Israelis it doesn't matter much, even if 1% are radical they outnumber us by millions ..
The statistics can be debatable but its not the point, the peaceful Muslims are irrelevant (not to say 'support by default' other Muslims) - let me introduce you to the numbers in Israel, 40+ hostile terrorist organizations, compared to the number of Palestinians that's..

Ah, Muslims outnumber Jews by millions, but you take the murder toll as if they both have equal numbers.

What, 14 million or so Jews in the world, against 1.6 billion Muslims.
"Jews" have killed a little less than 1,500 people this week.

Let me see.
1,600,000,000 divided by 14,000,000 gives us a multiplication factor of about 114.
If 1,500 people have been killed in Gaza, to compare the number to the numbers killed by Muslims this week, we must multiply by 114.

Pro rata, that means "Jews" have killed 159,600 people this week.

The worse, most biased sites on the internet claim Muslims murder 100,000 people per year.
Even if that's true, pro rata, "Jews" have doubled that death toll in a little over a week.

Care to complain about the number of Muslims again?

Wtf kind of logic is that? So because Muslims outnumber Jews by a large amount, we have to just accept that Muslims atrocities are higher?
BTS, what's happening in Gaza is war. Civilians are killed as a result of collateral damage. Considering the thousands of separate attacks Israel has done, the death toll is not that high. Of course it would be great if no civilians died.

There are about two billion Christians in this world. Are you going to try to tell me that they commit as much atrocities as Muslims?

Islam is a cancer to the world. The never ending atrocities that they commit are seen daily, from the Middle East to Africa.

Not at all.
If you wish to compare murder rate, you can hardly claim Jews are better because they commit less, but ignore there are 114 times more Muslims.

You have to level the playing field, as I did.

Head for head, "Jews" have killed more people in a couple of weeks, that "Muslims" managed in a year, assuming the most anti Muslim sites on the net don't lie about the numbers.

Live with it.

 

[toastman]

Ah, Muslims outnumber Jews by millions, but you take the murder toll as if they both have equal numbers.

What, 14 million or so Jews in the world, against 1.6 billion Muslims.
"Jews" have killed a little less than 1,500 people this week.

Let me see.
1,600,000,000 divided by 14,000,000 gives us a multiplication factor of about 114.
If 1,500 people have been killed in Gaza, to compare the number to the numbers killed by Muslims this week, we must multiply by 114.

Pro rata, that means "Jews" have killed 159,600 people this week.

The worse, most biased sites on the internet claim Muslims murder 100,000 people per year.
Even if that's true, pro rata, "Jews" have doubled that death toll in a little over a week.

Care to complain about the number of Muslims again?

Wtf kind of logic is that? So because Muslims outnumber Jews by a large amount, we have to just accept that Muslims atrocities are higher?
BTS, what's happening in Gaza is war. Civilians are killed as a result of collateral damage. Considering the thousands of separate attacks Israel has done, the death toll is not that high. Of course it would be great if no civilians died.

There are about two billion Christians in this world. Are you going to try to tell me that they commit as much atrocities as Muslims?

Islam is a cancer to the world. The never ending atrocities that they commit are seen daily, from the Middle East to Africa.

Not at all.
If you wish to compare murder rate, you can hardly claim Jews are better because they commit less, but ignore there are 114 times more Muslims.

You have to level the playing field, as I did.

Head for head, "Jews" have killed more people in a couple of weeks, that "Muslims" managed in a year, assuming the most anti Muslim sites on the net don't lie about the numbers.

Live with it.

That's the dumbest thing I ever read . Muslims are the kings or mass murder. Everyone knows that. And war casualties aren't considered murder victims. Are you saying that whenever there is a war, then the civilians killed are always murder victims?

Another point I want to make is that not only do Muslims excel at mass murder, but they do it to their own people. Also, a lot of the killing they do is because of the fact that they are Muslim. So many killings in the name of allah.

Islam is a cancer to the world.