From Joe Wilson "You lie!" to Al Green "You do not have a mandate!" The responses

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Green has been censured. Look at the vote. First up, the ten who sided with the GOP led censure:

The Ten:
  • Bera, Ami California 6th D Yes
  • Case, Ed Hawaii 1st D Yes
  • Costa, Jim California 21st D Yes
  • Gillen, Laura New York 4th D Yes
  • Himes, James A. Connecticut 4th D Yes
  • Houlahan, Chrissy Pennsylvania 6th D Yes
  • Kaptur, Marcy Ohio 9th D Yes
  • Moskowitz, Jared Florida 23rd D Yes
  • Perez, Marie Gluesenkamp Washington 3rd D Yes
  • Suozzi, Thomas R. New York 3rd D Yes


We had Joe Wilson setting a precedent for the current age, the modern antics in the House chamber during Presidential Speeches.

Wilson did ultimately apologize. He was censured.

"I am not going to apologize again," the South Carolina Republican said on "FOX News Sunday" when asked about pending disciplinary steps against him by the Democratic-controlled House of Representatives.
Wilson said he already apologized to Obama and that the president accepted it. However, he insisted that Obama "was misstating the facts," and that Democratic leaders in the House were "playing politics" by continuing to focus on the issue.
House Democrats plan to censure Wilson if he refuses to apologize on the House floor this week.

What is most interesting is that before the precedent was played out again and again, we had comments by members who I believe had a more serious view of the House and how it should be run. Institutionalists I've long admired.

As expected, the House voted this evening to censure Rep. Joe (You Lie!) Wilson (R-S.C.) for interrupting President Obama's speech to Congress last week. The vote was 240-179, breaking down largely along party lines. Yet there were a few notable splits:
12 Democrats voted against the resolution, including two of the party's most liberal members: Reps. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio and Jim McDermott of Washington.
"It does not further the process of civility in the House," McDermott told NEWSWEEK after the vote. "He apologized to the president, and the apology was accepted. That's all there needs to be."
Five other Dems voted "present" during the vote, including Rep. Barney Frank, who told reporters earlier Wednesday that he didn't support the resolution. "I think it's bad precedent to put us in charge of deciding whether people act like jerks," Frank said. "I don't have time to monitor everyone's civility."
Still, seven Republicans crossed party lines to support the Wilson censure, including Rep. Tom Petri of Wisconsin. "The resolution stated that the House doesn't approve of Mr. Wilson's actions on the floor, and Mr. Petri doesn't approve of those actions," Niel Wright, Petri's spokesman, told NEWSWEEK. "He didn't want to be on the record approving of it, which would have been a nay vote, so he voted yea." Er, OK. A full list of Democrats and Republicans who crossed party lines on the Wilson vote.

While many Americans cheer on antics, I have become one who has had a change of mind. I cheer on Rep. Al Green, because of reasons I won't go into in a thread OP.
 
Al plays stupid games and he gets stupid prizes.
Not sure what he expected.....a new cane?
Trump plays stupid games and he gets stupid prizes.
Not sure what he expects.....he never got over 50% of a popular vote

people don't like him
 
Trump plays stupid games and he gets stupid prizes.
Not sure what he expects.....he never got over 50% of a popular vote

people don't like him
I thought this was about Al Green getting censored. WTF???
Can't you keep on topic in the first 3 posts??? :laughing0301:
 
Trump has a two-seat mandate (for now) in the House.

He did get the Budget out there with a one-seat majority.

Now it has run into a road block in the Senate that may well shut down the country.
 
Trump says a lot of inflammatory things, but this is politics. To claim that you are defending a "moral" position is ridiculous. He is a buffoon and I'm sure his constituents are thrilled with the attention he got. They knew whom they were voting for. Maybe it's time to take the cameras out of the room.
 
Trump has a two-seat mandate (for now) in the House.

He did get the Budget out there with a one-seat majority.

Now it has run into a road block in the Senate that may well shut down the country.
that's not actually a mandate

a bit less than 50% of the popular vote?

may as well have won with a plurality

Chile's Allende found out what a fake mandate can bring
 
that's not actually a mandate

a bit less than 50% of the popular vote?

may as well have won with a plurality

Chile's Allende found out what a fake mandate can bring
I am being snarky, because the Magadons think it is mandate. They truly are political dweebs.
 
While many Americans cheer on antics, I have become one who has had a change of mind. I cheer on Rep. Al Green, because of reasons I won't go into in a thread OP.
Green has been censored and correctly so.
 
Trump says a lot of inflammatory things, but this is politics. To claim that you are defending a "moral" position is ridiculous. He is a buffoon and I'm sure his constituents are thrilled with the attention he got. They knew whom they were voting for. Maybe it's time to take the cameras out of the room.

Trump has been known as a Buffoon even before he became a politician. Attention? That's all he ever seeks with his constant insults, trolling people and pushing people aside on stage so he can be front and center.

The cameras? They helped you people gain voters going as far back as Newt. You have Jimmie Gym Jordan and others....

give me a break
 
Yes, Big Al was censured today.
It is now considered a Badge of Honor


santos gobble 2.webp

remember this guy and hose defending him for so long?
 
Trump plays stupid games and he gets stupid prizes.
Not sure what he expects.....he never got over 50% of a popular vote

people don't like him
Green is not liked. Even the Congress censored him. But more, Green was hauled out in shame of the full meeting of the Congress.
 
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