Disclaimer 1: This isn't a troll account, I'm actually a Trotskyist.
Disclaimer 2: I'm not anti-religious, a proponent of the concept of "white privilege," or a member of the regressive left. Please don't claim I'm any of the above without knowing what I stand for.
With that out of the way, it's a pleasure to meet everyone here. I'm a college pre-medical/music student that's probably retarded so you can take my opinion with a grain of salt I suppose. But I'm here to provide a case for Marxism and discuss politics in my spare time without fear of ruining unrelated conversations. Seems like it should be fun; it's great to have a place where talking about politics isn't shoved off to the side like an unwanted guest.
Also to meet my anti-capitalist propaganda quota for the day: corporate America sucks, stick it to the man. Or something.
Disclaimer 1: This isn't a troll account, I'm actually a Trotskyist.
Disclaimer 2: I'm not anti-religious, a proponent of the concept of "white privilege," or a member of the regressive left. Please don't claim I'm any of the above without knowing what I stand for.
With that out of the way, it's a pleasure to meet everyone here. I'm a college pre-medical/music student that's probably retarded so you can take my opinion with a grain of salt I suppose. But I'm here to provide a case for Marxism and discuss politics in my spare time without fear of ruining unrelated conversations. Seems like it should be fun; it's great to have a place where talking about politics isn't shoved off to the side like an unwanted guest.
Also to meet my anti-capitalist propaganda quota for the day: corporate America sucks, stick it to the man. Or something.
Welcome to the forum. Sorry I've been out of touch for a couple weeks.
From a Libertarian to a Marxist:
Libertarians believe in freedom of government control. We stand just one step in front of anarchy.
Marxist's believe in strong government control and government dictated distribution of wealth; Correct?
Let me pick on us first. We will start with Liberty under a functional Republic: The United States was formed as a Republic, not a democracy. A quote from Benjamin Franklin after being asked by a local citizen; What kind of a country have you given us Mr. Franklin? Franklin said; "a Republic, if you can keep it."
So fast forward to today - we didn't keep it. We got lazy. We resisted the personal responsibility and hard work that comes with Liberty within a Republic. Things like Honesty, Integrity, Diligence, Self Discipline, Self governance, Service to Society, and obeying the 10 Commandment's of the Bible.
For a moment, take religion out of the picture, the Ten Commandment's are based in undisputable truth's. The rule book for humanity is simple to comprehend but difficult to attain. The Founders of America knew this but also knew to avoid oppression and slavery of government, it was the only path. We were rulers of ourselves in times when most people looked out for each other, helped each other, shared wealth with each other, worshiped together, and a handshake was a contract. I'm old enough to have seen the twilight of this behavior. We let it go.
Corruption of unregulated commerce soon reared the ugly head of greed on steroids. Greed lead to crime, brutality, slavery, and even genocide. We let
ourselves down. We became indifferent to corruption.
So in a nutshell, there are some of us who wish to return to a Libertarian Republic as opposed to a Democracy. The thought of having a kind, truthful, self governing society is compelling. No BIG BROTHER! Unfortunately we can't trust our elected officials to be honest and forthright. Corruption, or anti-commandment behavior ruins the original concept of America. America was suppose to remain "Good and Kind" among the nations of the world.
Now the problem with Communism and Marxism:
They control the populous and maintain order. Order creates a sense of security. Ok. Typically the societal evolution of communism starts out well. Everybody gets an equal cut - except government officials or industry operators who get more. Then corruption sets in. Officials soon find out that a controlled society is easy to manipulate and deceive. Then comes fascism. Heavy handed control soon leads to a modern form of slavery. You get what you get, when they say, and you get only how much they allow. Working harder or being smarter gets you nowhere unless you give your rights to success - to the government!
Having said that I will state that in some places the strictness of my overview is not comprehensive. My narrative is to paint a historical set of facts. History repeats itself.
Again, corruption ruins a workable system. I postulate that Communism could work if there were an absolute void of corruption. If Communist leaders were
reverent and willfully shared, evenly, among society and took only an equal amount for themselves. It would be utopian. This is what they lead the populous to beleive; Protection, Equality, and all that is available in Sustenance and Wealth. It's a pretty big promise. Are you getting all that? Did the Millions of murdered Russians, Pol's, Ukrainians, and Jews get all that?
Yours and My governments are so similar in todays world that it's crazy to have the argument. My argument is that - IF THE HUMAN RACE WERE TO OBEY THE 10 SIMPLE RULES OF HOW HUMANITY IS TO BEHAVE - we would have a utopian hybrid society. A peaceful communal or tribal self governing system that would still allow for individuals to become more successful in life due to intelligence, talent, or hard work. Those who excel would be committed and compelled to share their wealth with the sick and unable people in their local community. The best part - NO NEED FOR BIG GVERNMENT!
The argument is not for Governments.
It's for humanity itself!
So, welcome fellow human whom I will protect and support but I will not cease to persist in getting you to understand my point. Leave government to devour itself and become a part of righteous humanity! It may come to be that the only thing left is you and me helping each other survive.
God Bless