Avorysuds
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Amazingly stupid post btw.
If there ever was such a disgusting display of partisanship you nailed it.
French socialist win the their Presidential election on May 6
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Amazingly stupid post btw.
If there ever was such a disgusting display of partisanship you nailed it.
Avorysuds
Gold Member
Heard of the SECOND Pub Great World Depression, shyttehead? Fer chrissake... Pub dupe morons...unbelievable!
If le Pen isn't a conservative, you're a NAZI! LOL
Look up when the Depression happened and who was President during the vast majority of it... Hoover, a progressive liberal who did the new deal, then FDR who voted against the new deal only to expand off it once that horrible human being got into office.
percysunshine
Diamond Member
Heard of the SECOND Pub World Great Depresion, shyttehead? Fer chrissake... Pub dupe morons...unbelievable!
If le Pen isn't a conservative, you're a NAZI! LOL
You are looking at France in a myopic daze. Nancy Pelosi could be the next leader, easily, if she were not Italian.
How is their economy doing anyway?
Dutch Cabinet Collapse Shows Folly of Merkel Fiscal Pact - Bloomberg
I'm more of the mind of this article. I think the reason why the EU is collapsing is because they ended up choking on their excessive austerity measures.
The Netherlands gov't just collapsed and they were in bed with Angela Merkel with the whole idea that they could simply cut public spending and get back to prosperity. Well, the opposite has come true and the Dutch PM resigned and dissolved his gov't.
Francois Hollande, the Socialist from France, could very well win in a couple weeks when France has their run-off election. He is running on a platform to tax corporations and wealthy folks a little bit more, to stay on the road of balancing France's books by 2017, and by making investments in jobs for young people, as well as a nifty move to lower the retirement age by 2 years back to 60 again.
Oh, and Hollande promises to withdraw from Afghanistan this year, and not by 2014 or beyond, as Sarkozy would like.
His plan is to renegotiate the terms of the European bailout, because the one put out by Germany is causing the EU to slide right back into another collapse.
I'm sorry, but Bloomberg's got it right: We have to walk and chew at the same time. Can't just cut our way into prosperity, we must make some key investments as well.
It's this balance that America has adopted that has kept us from going backwards. America has been more judicious and prudent, while the EU went crazy with austerity over the last year or so, and they're faltering while we haven't. If they go down, it won't be because a new person was elected in France, it's because they were already going down with the fix they thought was good that turned out to be wrongheaded.
It's like we're repeating the 20's all over again instead of skipping forward to the part where we realized we needed to invest in ourselves once again. Much better to bring down deficits when you have millions of new people in the workforce rather than cutting everything and having no one contributing to the economy.
I'm more of the mind of this article. I think the reason why the EU is collapsing is because they ended up choking on their excessive austerity measures.
The Netherlands gov't just collapsed and they were in bed with Angela Merkel with the whole idea that they could simply cut public spending and get back to prosperity. Well, the opposite has come true and the Dutch PM resigned and dissolved his gov't.
Francois Hollande, the Socialist from France, could very well win in a couple weeks when France has their run-off election. He is running on a platform to tax corporations and wealthy folks a little bit more, to stay on the road of balancing France's books by 2017, and by making investments in jobs for young people, as well as a nifty move to lower the retirement age by 2 years back to 60 again.
Oh, and Hollande promises to withdraw from Afghanistan this year, and not by 2014 or beyond, as Sarkozy would like.
His plan is to renegotiate the terms of the European bailout, because the one put out by Germany is causing the EU to slide right back into another collapse.
I'm sorry, but Bloomberg's got it right: We have to walk and chew at the same time. Can't just cut our way into prosperity, we must make some key investments as well.
It's this balance that America has adopted that has kept us from going backwards. America has been more judicious and prudent, while the EU went crazy with austerity over the last year or so, and they're faltering while we haven't. If they go down, it won't be because a new person was elected in France, it's because they were already going down with the fix they thought was good that turned out to be wrongheaded.
It's like we're repeating the 20's all over again instead of skipping forward to the part where we realized we needed to invest in ourselves once again. Much better to bring down deficits when you have millions of new people in the workforce rather than cutting everything and having no one contributing to the economy.
Heard of the SECOND Pub World Great Depresion, shyttehead? Fer chrissake... Pub dupe morons...unbelievable!
If le Pen isn't a conservative, you're a NAZI! LOL
You are looking at France in a myopic daze. Nancy Pelosi could be the next leader, easily, if she were not Italian.
How is their economy doing anyway?
The people are upset. Unemployment is up in France, they've got serious Afghanistan fatigue, but Sarkozy wants to stay another 2 years or more and the lefty running against him wants to come home by the end of this year.
Like nearly everywhere in Europe, France thought that budget cuts would bring them out of it, but it's not the case.
I'd have to say that "far right" in Euro-speak would be more like Mitt Romney from 5 years ago.
percysunshine
Diamond Member
Holy Shit!
The Netherlands went under?
Europe is screwed.
The Netherlands went under?
Europe is screwed.
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The First World War sapped France of an entire generation of their manhood. They weren'tSurrender Monkeys then. A small population to begin with.
Since then have not wanted to fight - ala their meek surrenders in WW2 and their defeat to a rag-tag army in Vietnamin 1954 ....................
francoHFW
Diamond Member
French are doing as well as us- holding up Greece, Ireland, Italy, and Spain doesnt help. All this stuff is the Pub's fault ferchrissake. Couldn't be more obvious, dupes. And I'll bet most experts would like some more spending in the end. Pub and RW loudmouths usually dominate the early returns LOL!
My French Aunt is a MONARCHIST- is she a socialist too? LOL Pub dupes are clueless!
My French Aunt is a MONARCHIST- is she a socialist too? LOL Pub dupes are clueless!
thereisnospoon
Gold Member
Interesting theory.
French voters most likely fear the tumult in Greece and therefore want to solidify their socialist system by electing a socialist.
Ok. That might be the politically expedient thing to do, but when the money runs out to pay for the infamous social safety nets and there's no one left to tax, the system collapses and it does not care who is in office.
percysunshine
Diamond Member
I worked for the Dutch in the 90's
If their finances go down....we are next.
If their finances go down....we are next.
thereisnospoon
Gold Member
Which plans are those( MItt Romney's)? Please elaborate.
francoHFW
Diamond Member
A) True WWI
b) Lost to new strategy, tons of bad luck. Not "meek", sometimes you just lose. The Brits lost too for 2 years, Russians, US. They don't have a channel, an Atlantic, 1500 miles of mud, just 100 miles of sweet land.
BTW, we would have lost to the exact same battle plan in the Battle of the Bulge, except we had 5 times as many men, and they ran out of gas. Etc etc. You'll never guess what Franco stands for LOL.
The other great republic, and our best friend for 240 years...we get the English language version...
francoHFW
Diamond Member
SOME of them didn't want to fight much. The RWers who thought Hitler wasn't so bad (he hadn't been revealed so much then, and RWers hated Leon Blum and the Popular Front- like my Aunt's family....but STILL they were just BEATEN...GD fanatic dictatorships can do that to ya, kids.
francoHFW
Diamond Member
The Ryan/Booosh Plan LOL Cut taxes on the rich, cronyism,explode the deficit, and destroy Medicare, and Health care totally out of control...BRILLIANT!!
francoHFW
Diamond Member
Again, they knocked down the austerity supporters. May not be a bad thing...you know how Germans can be...
francoHFW
Diamond Member
Heard of the SECOND Pub Great World Depression, shyttehead? Fer chrissake... Pub dupe morons...unbelievable!
If le Pen isn't a conservative, you're a NAZI! LOL
Look up when the Depression happened and who was President during the vast majority of it... Hoover, a progressive liberal who did the new deal, then FDR who voted against the new deal only to expand off it once that horrible human being got into office.
Holy Pubcrappe, what BS- Hoover got to hold the bag for Pub BS of the 20's, by the time FDR got in, there was no economy to stimulate. Great job, Pubs and cronies...
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After Hollande wins the French election on May 6 - and the economies of the worldgo into a 2nd Great Depression - the Obama smear-machine and left wing media will go into full mode to smear Rommney.
Will make dog=gate outto look like a picnic.
Will make dog=gate outto look like a picnic.
francoHFW
Diamond Member
Not happening, restez tranquile mon vieux...this may very well help things- austerity isn't working...there or here.
francoHFW
Diamond Member
Romney smears himself, and the Ryan plan suqs and is suicidal. Remain calm LOL
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