French reform of pensions is less drastic than expected

[Bleipriester]

France pensions system is actually a whole bunch of pensions system. There are 42 pensions systems, each for another occupation. With the reform, a unified system comes into existence and that means that special treatments for some occupations like train drivers will be history. This doesn´t apply for people born prior to 1975.
The retirement age of 65 will not be changed. And people can still retire with 62 - 64 but there will be abatements.
The pensions reform was a campaign promise of Macron. The protests may have helped to soften the reform, however, several trade unions announced to continue the protests unless the government drops the reform completely.

Verschärfte Streiks trotz Zugeständnissen bei Rentenreform in Frankreich

 

[Dalia]

It was the best retirement in the world but Macron destroys everything that he touch and the unions are not happy with this reform the strike will continue until Christmas and the French are more than fed up

 

[DGS49]

Governments have FINITE resources. France already taxes everyone's balls off.

All over the world, people who are already sucking at the government's teats demand not to have the flow of milk slowed or delayed.

They get no sympathy from those who actually work for a living and take responsibility for their own wellbeing.

 

[ESay]

Governments have FINITE resources. France already taxes everyone's balls off.

All over the world, people who are already sucking at the government's teats demand not to have the flow of milk slowed or delayed.

They get no sympathy from those who actually work for a living and take responsibility for their own wellbeing.

It is the best answer which can be given about this issue. The West Europeans should already wake up and understand that things have already changed since the mid-20th century and most countries can't afford the model of 'social state' any more.

 

[Dalia]

Governments have FINITE resources. France already taxes everyone's balls off.

All over the world, people who are already sucking at the government's teats demand not to have the flow of milk slowed or delayed.

They get no sympathy from those who actually work for a living and take responsibility for their own wellbeing.

It is the best answer which can be given about this issue. The West Europeans should already wake up and understand that things have already changed since the mid-20th century and most countries can't afford the model of 'social state' any more.

The French do not agree, we are the most taxed country in the world and Macron hits the French more and more ... the French revolution he quickly forgot

 

[Bleipriester]

Governments have FINITE resources. France already taxes everyone's balls off.

All over the world, people who are already sucking at the government's teats demand not to have the flow of milk slowed or delayed.

They get no sympathy from those who actually work for a living and take responsibility for their own wellbeing.

It is the best answer which can be given about this issue. The West Europeans should already wake up and understand that things have already changed since the mid-20th century and most countries can't afford the model of 'social state' any more.

We can, no problem. All we need is fair taxation and stop inviting the world to our welfare programs.

 

[Dalia]

The French have a shitty future, this reform does not affect me but I feel concerned by what is happening in France

 

[there4eyeM]

The rich need the money more than the rest of the population, or at least that is the impression we get from governments.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Governments have FINITE resources. France already taxes everyone's balls off.

All over the world, people who are already sucking at the government's teats demand not to have the flow of milk slowed or delayed.

They get no sympathy from those who actually work for a living and take responsibility for their own wellbeing.

It is the best answer which can be given about this issue. The West Europeans should already wake up and understand that things have already changed since the mid-20th century and most countries can't afford the model of 'social state' any more.

We can't afford a Libertardian state either.
A ton of manufacturing jobs left, and a ton of third world beggars encroached into West Europe, USA, Canada, and Australia to their demise.

The pure irony, is that the typical Western European is completely oblivious to their decay, and demise.

Western Europeans seem to not grasp a heck of a lot, a bunch of savages, and drones.

 

[Dalia]

After a year of yellow vest the government bring a layer with this reform of pension and the strikes are very hard for the Merchant in this Christmas time

 

[ESay]

Governments have FINITE resources. France already taxes everyone's balls off.

All over the world, people who are already sucking at the government's teats demand not to have the flow of milk slowed or delayed.

They get no sympathy from those who actually work for a living and take responsibility for their own wellbeing.

It is the best answer which can be given about this issue. The West Europeans should already wake up and understand that things have already changed since the mid-20th century and most countries can't afford the model of 'social state' any more.

The French do not agree, we are the most taxed country in the world and Macron hits the French more and more ... the French revolution he quickly forgot

So, to cut the taxes you need to cut social spendings. Every person should earn the pension themselves and their pension should depend on payments they have done during their working period.
The medicine should be mostly financed by insurance companies and a person shood choose a medical insurance they want to have.

Btw, how many of taxes do you pay? If you earn say 1000 euros how many you must pay for the state?

 

[ESay]

Governments have FINITE resources. France already taxes everyone's balls off.

All over the world, people who are already sucking at the government's teats demand not to have the flow of milk slowed or delayed.

They get no sympathy from those who actually work for a living and take responsibility for their own wellbeing.

It is the best answer which can be given about this issue. The West Europeans should already wake up and understand that things have already changed since the mid-20th century and most countries can't afford the model of 'social state' any more.

We can, no problem. All we need is fair taxation and stop inviting the world to our welfare programs.

Yeah, I already know your meaning of fair taxation. Go on with that. I would like to see this experiment in Germany.

 

[ESay]

Governments have FINITE resources. France already taxes everyone's balls off.

All over the world, people who are already sucking at the government's teats demand not to have the flow of milk slowed or delayed.

They get no sympathy from those who actually work for a living and take responsibility for their own wellbeing.

It is the best answer which can be given about this issue. The West Europeans should already wake up and understand that things have already changed since the mid-20th century and most countries can't afford the model of 'social state' any more.

We can't afford a Libertardian state either.
A ton of manufacturing jobs left, and a ton of third world beggars encroached into West Europe, USA, Canada, and Australia to their demise.

The pure irony, is that the typical Western European is completely oblivious to their decay, and demise.

Western Europeans seem to not grasp a heck of a lot, a bunch of savages, and drones.

Actually, Poland has benefited great from open borders. Thousand of jobs were opened by foreighn companies in Poland and that was a part of the Polish 'economic miracle'. Thousand of Poles are now able to work freely in Western Europe for higher salaries.

And it needs to mention that a huge number of Ukrainians work in Poland and they are another part of 'the economic miracle'. Without them Poland would have to forget about economic growth or accept the workforce from Asiatic countries.

 

[there4eyeM]

In France, there is a huge, regressive sales tax. The poor pay for the rich, as with all such forms of taxation.
The fact is that there is enough for everyone, but a minority demand too much more.

 

[Bleipriester]

Governments have FINITE resources. France already taxes everyone's balls off.

All over the world, people who are already sucking at the government's teats demand not to have the flow of milk slowed or delayed.

They get no sympathy from those who actually work for a living and take responsibility for their own wellbeing.

It is the best answer which can be given about this issue. The West Europeans should already wake up and understand that things have already changed since the mid-20th century and most countries can't afford the model of 'social state' any more.

We can, no problem. All we need is fair taxation and stop inviting the world to our welfare programs.

Yeah, I already know your meaning of fair taxation. Go on with that. I would like to see this experiment in Germany.

Big shots need to pay up. End double-entry accounting, tax holes and fat cat socialism.

 

[fncceo]

The rich need the money more than the rest of the population

In order to be called 'rich' it's the minimum requirement.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Governments have FINITE resources. France already taxes everyone's balls off.

All over the world, people who are already sucking at the government's teats demand not to have the flow of milk slowed or delayed.

They get no sympathy from those who actually work for a living and take responsibility for their own wellbeing.

It is the best answer which can be given about this issue. The West Europeans should already wake up and understand that things have already changed since the mid-20th century and most countries can't afford the model of 'social state' any more.

We can't afford a Libertardian state either.
A ton of manufacturing jobs left, and a ton of third world beggars encroached into West Europe, USA, Canada, and Australia to their demise.

The pure irony, is that the typical Western European is completely oblivious to their decay, and demise.

Western Europeans seem to not grasp a heck of a lot, a bunch of savages, and drones.

Actually, Poland has benefited great from open borders. Thousand of jobs were opened by foreighn companies in Poland and that was a part of the Polish 'economic miracle'. Thousand of Poles are now able to work freely in Western Europe for higher salaries.

And it needs to mention that a huge number of Ukrainians work in Poland and they are another part of 'the economic miracle'. Without them Poland would have to forget about economic growth or accept the workforce from Asiatic countries.

Yes manufacturing from the West has helped Poland but has hurt the West.

Braindrain +Labor shortages due to emigration hurt Poland.

As for Ukrainians Poland might get solid workers who are White Slavs much like Poles.

However, Polish & Ukrainian histories are in conflict, especially because of Wolyn Massacre.

 

[ESay]

As for Ukrainians Poland might get solid workers who are White Slavs much like Poles.

Yes, that is what I meant. If not Ukrainian workers, Poland would have to open doors for Asians. And significant part if them would be Muslims, I suppose.

 

[Dalia]

Governments have FINITE resources. France already taxes everyone's balls off.

All over the world, people who are already sucking at the government's teats demand not to have the flow of milk slowed or delayed.

They get no sympathy from those who actually work for a living and take responsibility for their own wellbeing.

It is the best answer which can be given about this issue. The West Europeans should already wake up and understand that things have already changed since the mid-20th century and most countries can't afford the model of 'social state' any more.

The French do not agree, we are the most taxed country in the world and Macron hits the French more and more ... the French revolution he quickly forgot

So, to cut the taxes you need to cut social spendings. Every person should earn the pension themselves and their pension should depend on payments they have done during their working period.
The medicine should be mostly financed by insurance companies and a person shood choose a medical insurance they want to have.

Btw, how many of taxes do you pay? If you earn say 1000 euros how many you must pay for the state?

The tax is the same thing for all I am talking about TVA and with this reform the French are losers in addition to working two more years if not they lose 10% if they do not work until 64 years without counting this reform at point

 

[ESay]

Governments have FINITE resources. France already taxes everyone's balls off.

All over the world, people who are already sucking at the government's teats demand not to have the flow of milk slowed or delayed.

They get no sympathy from those who actually work for a living and take responsibility for their own wellbeing.

It is the best answer which can be given about this issue. The West Europeans should already wake up and understand that things have already changed since the mid-20th century and most countries can't afford the model of 'social state' any more.

The French do not agree, we are the most taxed country in the world and Macron hits the French more and more ... the French revolution he quickly forgot

So, to cut the taxes you need to cut social spendings. Every person should earn the pension themselves and their pension should depend on payments they have done during their working period.
The medicine should be mostly financed by insurance companies and a person shood choose a medical insurance they want to have.

Btw, how many of taxes do you pay? If you earn say 1000 euros how many you must pay for the state?

The tax is the same thing for all I am talking about TVA and with this reform the French are losers in addition to working two more years if not they lose 10% if they do not work until 64 years without counting this reform at point

So, how many do you pay from your salary as taxes every month? What percent?