Franklin foresaw US descent

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This is a speech from Franklin dated 1787:

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This is a speech from Franklin dated 1787:

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In these sentiments, Sir, I agree to this Constitution with all its faults, if they are such; because I think a general Government necessary for us, and there is no form of Government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered, and believe farther that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic Government, being incapable of any other.

Franklin knew that man's nature prevents him from eventually not destroying himself, and the key to it all is man's inner morality.

You either have a society where men are moral who are able to discipline themselves to live up to a moral code, or you will have government force you to live up to a moral code. The first society men have freedom, the second society you have tyranny.

When society has the morality of a jail house, all you can do then is hire a warden to try and maintain civility.

That is why the Left is at war with morality and good sense, it is because they inherently know it will lead to totalitarianism.
 
If it does happen, it will be because the people allowed it. Constant vigilance and involvement by a well-educated population is the best defense for democracy.
 
If it does happen, it will be because the people allowed it. Constant vigilance and involvement by a well-educated population is the best defense for democracy.
Well educated?

Try a moral society is the best defense for freedom within a society.

Immoral people who are well educated are the most dangerous people on the planet.

BTW, democracy has nothing to do with it. Look at the Palestinians, they elected Hamas to represent them.

For the Left, democracy = morality and will fix everything.

As we see, that is a completely false narrative, but when you reject God, you have to create a false narrative.
 
Well educated?

Try a moral society is the best defense for freedom within a society.

Immoral people who are well educated are the most dangerous people on the planet.

BTW, democracy has nothing to do with it. Look at the Palestinians, they elected Hamas to represent them.

For the Left, democracy = morality and will fix everything.

As we see, that is a completely false narrative, but when you reject God, you have to create a false narrative.
To be moral one must be educated to be moral.
 
President Lincoln said if America ever falls it will be from within.

With the DEMs open border policy...he was right.

Talk about a complete lack of self-awareness. You’re in the midst of a constitutional crisis because you’ve elected a dictator.

Nothing more nothing less. And you whine about open the open borders.

I’m sure you think that the crash plane crash happened because of DEI and not because Trump tried to fire all of the air traffic controllers and the head of the FAA too.

Talk about picking up the peanuts while being trampled by the elephants.
 
Talk about a complete lack of self-awareness. You’re in the midst of a constitutional crisis because you’ve elected a dictator.

Nothing more nothing less. And you whine about open the open borders.

I’m sure you think that the crash plane crash happened because of DEI and not because Trump tried to fire all of the air traffic controllers and the head of the FAA too.

Talk about picking up the peanuts while being trampled by the elephants.
What’s the constitutional crisis?
 
This is a speech from Franklin dated 1787:

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Referenced here

I have noticed, usually, when you post a thread, it is about something or someone you don't like.
So, what is it you don't like, this time? You forgot to comment, so we are waiting for your complaint against old Ben or his speech.

Or is this just one of those "Hey, get a load of this" Threads, you just wanted to post?
 
President Lincoln said if America ever falls it will be from within.

With the DEMs open border policy...he was right.
Corrupt Democrats lost their grip on power as the American people rejected them. So Dems launched an insurrection raising an army of 15 million illegals from foreign countries to cancel out Americans.
 
I love how Democrats constantly fall into the PROJECTION trap. They start a PROJECTION thread then get humiliated. lol
 
I have noticed, usually, when you post a thread, it is about something or someone you don't like.
So, what is it you don't like, this time? You forgot to comment, so we are waiting for your complaint against old Ben or his speech.

Or is this just one of those "Hey, get a load of this" Threads, you just wanted to post?
I don't really understand your question. The US is undergoing a constitutional crisis and I stumbled upon an article where someone noted that Benjamin Franklin foresaw a future where the country would fall into despotism, I find that interesting and thought others might too, so I dug out the record of the meeting where he said that.

As for what I don't like, in this case it's the collective dementia that's infected republicans and a large percentage of the US population.
 
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I don't really understand your question. The US is undergoing a constitutional crisis and I stumbled upon an article where someone noted that Benjamin Franklin foresaw a future where the country would fall into despotism, I find that interesting and thought others might too, so I dug out the record of the meeting where he said that.

As for what I don't like, in this case it's the collective dementia that's infected republicans and a large percentage of the US population.
Good answer. You should have put that in your OP, as it lacked OP Personal Content and was reported, to be shut down. It wasn't shut down, but that does not mean, it wasn't noticed. No response to this Mod Note necessary or acceptable.
 
Talk about a complete lack of self-awareness. You’re in the midst of a constitutional crisis because you’ve elected a dictator.

Nothing more nothing less. And you whine about open the open borders.

I’m sure you think that the crash plane crash happened because of DEI and not because Trump tried to fire all of the air traffic controllers and the head of the FAA too.

We're in another made up constitutional crisis you claim...even there is no such thing except of paper. (look up checks and balances)

Let me guess...you are all for people crossing the order bringing who knows what with them ?

I think the recent plane crash in DC (there was also on in my hometown Philly at the same time) was caused by life.

I like OMB think DEI could have been a factor but lets wait to the investigation is finished. (to make that claim)

Oh yeah...for the 2nd time in my life...I didn't vote last election. So I elected no one and I am no great fan of OMB.

Now you get back to your popcorn and CNN !
 
Um... you know you are obsessed with OMB, right?

When you earn a title...you keep it for life unless you disgrace it.

So if you met Sleepy Joe you would address him as Mister President !
OMB?
 

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