Frankenstein …. book or film?

[lg325]

I agree. The Captain became so caught in Frankensteins' delusions his mind started to see it also. Being isolated in the ice helped it along.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

the book does not speak of a monster, but of a being

Actually a beautiful being. The Modern Prometheus as the book is sub titled. The monster was not supposed to be ugly.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Yes!

I thought I was the only one who cought onto that. It indeed a novel of a man relating an extended delusion with hallucinations.

It was the movie, in which the monster was very real that throws modern audiences off.

I do have one twist at the end with which you may disagree.

As you know, the story is told by a ship's captain in a letter to a female, his wife or his sister, I can't recall. But the tale is told in Doctor Frankenstein's narration with the Captain's tale a wraparound.

My take is that the reader is supposed to understand, almost from the start, that the tale is of a mentally ill man's hallucinations, and murders while in the personality of his own creation. There are clues in almost every chapter that this is the case.

But at the end, Dr. Frankenstein dies, and then the ship's captain sees the monster, the only one besides Doctor F. who has seen him and lived to tell the tale. So it is supposed to be a surprise ending: Surprise! It was not a delusion, after all.

But, then again, maybe that is supposed to mean that the Captain has become caught up in Frankenstein's delusions.

I'm open to your ideas on that.

This is certainly the plot of Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde.

 

[Zebra]

Actually a beautiful being. The Modern Prometheus as the book is sub titled. The monster was not supposed to be ugly.

in zhe book iz is never the momster …. but the being!

 

[Seymour Flops]

This is certainly the plot of Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde.

Never thought of that. I always thought it was an allegory about an otherwise good person becoming addicted to drugs.

I'll re-read it.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Never thought of that. I always thought it was an allegory about an otherwise good person becoming addicted to drugs.

I'll re-read it.

Ohh. Then it is certainly the plot of Jeckle and Hyde.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Mary Shelley was a mediocre writer who happened on an interesting "science fiction" idea that offered greater potential than she was able to bring to it in her novel. I would rate the Boris Karloff film as the best telling of the story, followed by Young Frankenstein, which was the most edifying.

I agree with that.
Her idea of this story is what propelled it, not the book itself.
It was a fantastic, imaginative idea for a story. Just wasn't told super well.
So it gained such massive success because it was so different than anything ever written.

But if someone such as Dickens or Ainsworth would have written it.... just wow.

 

[Zebra]

@ Frankenstein

do you say Frankensteen or Frankenstine?

 

[Zebra]

in zhe book iz is never the momster …. but the being!

in the book it is never the monster .....

some typo, as t and z, m and m, are so near each other.

 

[Zebra]

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Yes!

I thought I was the only one who cought onto that. It indeed a novel of a man relating an extended delusion with hallucinations.

It was the movie, in which the monster was very real that throws modern audiences off.

I do have one twist at the end with which you may disagree.

As you know, the story is told by a ship's captain in a letter to a female, his wife or his sister, I can't recall. But the tale is told in Doctor Frankenstein's narration with the Captain's tale a wraparound.

My take is that the reader is supposed to understand, almost from the start, that the tale is of a mentally ill man's hallucinations, and murders while in the personality of his own creation. There are clues in almost every chapter that this is the case.

But at the end, Dr. Frankenstein dies, and then the ship's captain sees the monster, the only one besides Doctor F. who has seen him and lived to tell the tale. So it is supposed to be a surprise ending: Surprise! It was not a delusion, after all.

But, then again, maybe that is supposed to mean that the Captain has become caught up in Frankenstein's delusions.

I'm open to your ideas on that.

interesting!

 

[bluzman61]

I've read the book and have seen the original movie from 1931. I prefer the book because it goes into much more detail of the scientist Dr. Victor Frankenstein. I also really enjoy Young Frankenstein, the spoof AND homage by Mel Brooks. Additionally, Gene Wilder co-wrote the screenplay. It's probably my favorite comedic film, it's very funny indeed.

 

[Zebra]

There is also a good film about Mary Shelley … and how she came to write that famous book.

 

[Zebra]

There is actually a Castle Frankenstein near Heidelberg.
It is said that Mary Shelley knew that name from travelling there …

 

[Zebra]

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Frau Blücher is eerie …

 

[Flopper]

most of the universal "monsters," svengoolie ran "creature from the black lagoon" last week end, had a large dose of humanity . most would be content to be left alone .

if you do nuclear tests in the remote islands, do not be surprised if "godzilla" shows up in tokyo.

Karloff was in the first 3 Frankenstein movies in the 30s. All were financial successes. Universal resurrected the old monster in the 40s but Karloff turned the roll down since he had other engagements. Lon Chaney became the new Frankenstein.

Today Boris Karloff is always thought of as the Frankenstein monster. However the truth is he was one of the most sought after actors on screen, radio, and stage. He made over a hundred movies both silent and sound and appear in hundreds of radio and stage productions.

Karloff, William Henry Pratt was born in England with a British father and Indian mother. As a young man he traveled to Canada to work as a day laborer and to study acting. He got his start on stage in British Columbia. He work on stage in both Canada and the US finally landing in Hollywood.

His first movie was in 2015. He worked steady in movies for over 20 years. in 1926, he made over a dozens movies, In the 1930's, he started his career playing dramatic rolls on radio, appearing in hundreds of production over the next 15 years.
It's strange that he starred in so many productions, yet today he is remember only as Frankenstein.

 

[g5000]

what have you seen or read

and did you like it?

There is a Frankenstein book series by Dean Koontz. Has anyone read any of them?

.

 

[Flopper]

There is a Frankenstein book series by Dean Koontz. Has anyone read any of them?

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I read the first book in the series, Parodical Son. It is kind of modernize Frankenstein. It's the story of deranged killer who may be more than human and the detective who was trying to tack him down. It's a good story. If you like horror stories, you might like it. It's a combination of horror, science fiction, and thriller.

Kevin J. Anderson, a well know sci-fi author co-authored the first book in the series

 

[luiza]

Neither. It's a story about how a man tried to play God, and the disastrous results.

Never expected you to come clean on dear old Trumpfy .

Can't you write a new ending ?

 

[JGalt]

Never expected you to come clean on dear old Trumpfy .

Can't you write a new ending ?

Trumpfy never stitched together someone made out of body parts.

But he's doing one hell of a job making the libs fall apart, yes ma'am.

 

[whitehall]

The worse thing you can do to a literature and film classic is to turn it into a comedy and that's what Mel Brooks managed to do to "Frankenstein" .