Fourth graders to the rescue!

[Woodznutz]

Shown is a $24million drug money bust (just one of many such). This is what fuels the illegal drug trade. However, few seem to know where it comes from (curious). We should ask some 4th graders. Perhaps they can shed some light.

 

[The Duke]

Okay...

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Shown is a $24million drug money bust (just one of many such). This is what fuels the illegal drug trade. However, few seem to know where it comes from (curious). We should ask some 4th graders. Perhaps they can shed some light.

It comes ultimately from demand. Not that hard to grasp.

 

[Woodznutz]

Okay...

Your upside-down flag indicates that you too believe we have some serious problems that need to be addressed. Could the drug problem be one of them?

 

[Woodznutz]

It comes ultimately from demand. Not that hard to grasp.

And? Are there dots to be connected?

 

[Moonglow]

Your upside-down flag indicates that you too believe we have some serious problems that need to be addressed. Could the drug problem be one of them?

I have a drug problem, it's too hard to score what I want...

 

[Woodznutz]

I have a drug problem, it's too hard to score what I want...

Must be a pretty exotic drug.

 

[Moonglow]

Must be a pretty exotic drug.

Just blotter acid.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

And? Are there dots to be connected?

No. Demand for drugs=>increased supply of drugs=>increased cash flow going back to cartels..........rinse and repeat...endlessly.
Cash is the above and beyond profit of the illegal drug trade. But what fuels it...is constant and overwhelming demand for more product.

 

[Woodznutz]

Just blotter acid.

Skuse my ignorance. Wuzzat?

 

[Woodznutz]

No. Demand for drugs=>increased supply of drugs=>increased cash flow going back to cartels..........rinse and repeat...endlessly.
Cash is the above and beyond profit of the illegal drug trade. But what fuels it...is constant and overwhelming demand for more product.

Where does the cash come from?

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Is there a solution?

Maybe. But it's unorthodox and may or may not work depending on how it's implemented.

 

[Woodznutz]

Maybe. But it's unorthodox and may or may not work depending on how it's implemented.

Got some details?

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Got some details?

Start by legalizing and decriminalizing them. I mean, all drugs, everything. All of it. You take the overt profiteering and violence out of the drug trade almost overnight.
Then, comes the hard part. Regulation, taxation, puritanical and religious views on drug use, making sure that you don't end up creating a demand for a stronger product (ala the current pot dispensary solution) through over regulation. Also, you WILL have to allocate money for addiction and treatment programs..a lot of money, in the form of both human specialists and treatment programs. You will always have addicts, no matter what system you try to implement.

The question before us, is the current war on drugs angle working?, or do we finally look at trying something different?

 

[Woodznutz]

Start by legalizing and decriminalizing them. I mean, all drugs, everything. All of it. You take the overt profiteering and violence out of the drug trade almost overnight.
Then, comes the hard part. Regulation, taxation, puritanical and religious views on drug use, making sure that you don't end up creating a demand for a stronger product (ala the current pot dispensary solution) through over regulation. Also, you WILL have to allocate money for addiction and treatment programs..a lot of money, in the form of both human specialists and treatment programs. You will always have addicts, no matter what system you try to implement.

The question before us, is the current war on drugs angle working?, or do we finally look at trying something different?

The illegal suppliers will always undercut legal suppliers so the cartel drug wars, violence, and corruption will continue. Legalization/decriminalization just plays into their hands.

I think a different approach is needed, more long-term thinking. Quick fixes seldom work.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

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The illegal suppliers will always undercut legal suppliers so the cartel drug wars, violence, and corruption will continue. Legalization/decriminalization just plays into their hands.

I think a different approach is needed, more long-term thinking. Quick fixes seldom work.

Not if you legalize, decriminalize, and remove the profit from it by offering the strongest and most potent product to your end users.

THAT is the long term thinking.

 

[Woodznutz]

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Not if you legalize, decriminalize, and remove the profit from it by offering the strongest and most potent product to your end users.

THAT is the long term thinking.

Removing the profit makes it a government service funded by taxpayers.
That's not going to fly.

And that doesn't solve the addiction problem and other problems associated with it. Allowing bad behavior is never a good idea.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Removing the profit makes it a government service funded by taxpayers.
That's not going to fly.

And that doesn't solve the addiction problem and other problems associated with it. Allowing bad behavior is never a good idea.

I stipulated that you would still need money and human resources to address the addiction problem...which is not solved with the solution I presented. You will always have the constant of addiction. No matter what course is chosen, the need to address it is unchanged.

Removing the profit is the only way to remove the violence and bloodshed as regulating "bad behavior" will be a virtually impossible task. ..and will not fly with the 1st and 2nd Amendment champions.

 

[Woodznutz]

I stipulated that you would still need money and human resources to address the addiction problem...which is not solved with the solution I presented. You will always have the constant of addiction. No matter what course is chosen, the need to address it is unchanged.

We are woefully short of those 'human resources' now.

Removing the profit is the only way to remove the violence and bloodshed as regulating "bad behavior" will be a virtually impossible task. ..and will not fly with the 1st and 2nd Amendment champions.

Illegal drug producers will always be able to provide drugs at a lower cost than the government. Stronger drugs as well.

The only way to 'remove the profit' is to remove the addicts and users from the equation.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

And? Are there dots to be connected?

Spare the Rod and the Child Thinks He's a God

First they encourage permissiveness and rot away children's characters. The most rotten will only care about quick pleasure. Then the transnationalist Deep State hooks these wasted brats by flooding the country with drugs.

Pre-conditioned as they are, still we shouldn't feel any sympathy for the self-indulgent users. They must be disposed of as toxic mutated trash, and laws against parental and teacher discipline must be overturned.