Formula one EV battery development

[Old Rocks]

The Formula One races are the ultimate in auto racing. And now hybrid are the fastest competitors, leading to innovations in battery technology. Including VarEVolt, which is not specifically mentioned in this video;

 

[elektra]

Videos make lousy threads
Self driving electric race cars, that is real boring and a waste of time
Batteries are not the future.
If batteries were the future that would of been Tesla's vision

Anyhow, a transcript, quotes, put substance into the topic, if you are mentally capable

 

[toobfreak]

The Formula One races are the ultimate in auto racing. And now hybrid are the fastest competitors, leading to innovations in battery technology. Including VarEVolt, which is not specifically mentioned in this video

Sweet! Next time I'm building a state of the art 15 million dollar car where there is no limit to cost/performance ratio, I'll keep this in mind!

 

[Sunsettommy]

The stupid obsession of 130-year-old technology never seems to die a deserving death.

 

[toobfreak]

The stupid obsession of 130-year-old technology never seems to die a deserving death.

Well, I can understand the interest in EV battery technology, especially if it uses energy captured from heat and motion from braking etc., to charge the battery that would otherwise be lost. Thing is, some of this technology is getting to where its complexity and cost adds so much to the car that it makes the car utterly unserviceable by the owner (both of my cars are easily worked on by me), and the added complexity requires even a professional mechanic to have special training and tools, and the expense it adds to the car completely offsets the value added by the additional mpg it saves.

Put simply: It makes no sense to spend an additional $20,000 for a car that will only save you $5,000 in fuel.

 

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Current EV technology makes EV's a niche. Will it ever go beyond that? Only time will tell.

I question the logic of trying to cool the planet in the middle of an ice age.

 

[Old Rocks]

Current EV technology makes EV's a niche. Will it ever go beyond that? Only time will tell.

I question the logic of trying to cool the planet in the middle of an ice age.

Quite a large niche;

"Rho Motion, the leading electric vehicle (EV) research house, today revealed that following the fourth successive global monthly record of passenger car and light-duty EV sales, 17.1 million units were sold in 2024. December 2024 resulted in over 1.9 million EV units sold, a growth of 5% on the previous month’s record, and all major regions grew monthly and yearly in December 2024. Overall, global EV sales grew by 25% in 2024 compared to 2023."

Over 17 million EVs sold in 2024 - Record Year

Rho Motion, the leading electric vehicle (EV) research house, today revealed that following the fourth successive global monthly record of passenger car and light-duty EV sales, 17.1 million units were sold in 2024. December 2024 resulted in over 1.9 million EV units sold, a growth of 5% on the...

rhomotion.com

7.3%​

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Americans bought 1.3 million electric vehicles (EVs) in 2024, a new record. A late sales surge helped, as EV sales spiked 15.2% year-over-year in the fourth quarter. In the final tally, EV sales rose 7.3% from 2023 numbers, according to Kelley Blue Book data.

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/america-set-ev-sales-record-in-2024/#:~:text=Americans%20bought%201.3%20million%20electric%20vehicles%20%28EVs%29%20in,2023%20numbers%2C%20according%20to%20Kelley%20Blue%20Book%20data.?msockid=0eba1af246336bd118a00821479b6a99

The pace of technological innovation in motors, batteries, and models is on an exponential curve. And now we are starting to see one of the drivers of vehicle innovation, race cars, incorporating EV technology in the premier race cars, formula one.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Videos make lousy threads
Self driving electric race cars, that is real boring and a waste of time
Batteries are not the future.
If batteries were the future that would of been Tesla's vision

Anyhow, a transcript, quotes, put substance into the topic, if you are mentally capable

A few years ago, I switched on the TV and I thought a Formula 1 race had started. As I watched I wondered what the screechy whine was from the cars and not the familiar Formula 1 engine noise. It was Formula E. Must have been around the time they first started these large scalextric racing case because I was unaware they were trying to dumb down Formula 1. Suffice to say, I changed channel and just like womens football, never ever watch it.

 

[Old Rocks]

A few years ago, I switched on the TV and I thought a Formula 1 race had started. As I watched I wondered what the screechy whine was from the cars and not the familiar Formula 1 engine noise. It was Formula E. Must have been around the time they first started these large scalextric racing case because I was unaware they were trying to dumb down Formula 1. Suffice to say, I changed channel and just like womens football, never ever watch it.

LOL If you are still watching F1 racing, you are watching hybrid race cars. And as the battery tech evolves, there will come a day when they will dispense with the ICE engine.

 

[Captain Caveman]

LOL If you are still watching F1 racing, you are watching hybrid race cars. And as the battery tech evolves, there will come a day when they will dispense with the ICE engine.

No, search the forum to what I watch, Tipping Point and The Chase. I've said that a few times now.

Post in thread 'My UK election prediction is..'

Apr 21, 2024

About public speaking and debate, what do you think of Laura Kuenssberg?

I stumbled across her by chance this morning.

No idea of her because I don't watch TV.

I watch Tipping Point and The Chase, then it's switched off.

• Captain Caveman

https://www.usmessageboard.com/thre...a-normal-again.876476/page-9553#post-35993061

Post in thread 'Did you know British people need a license to own a TV?'

Dec 17, 2023

How is that going to tell me how much TV you watch?

Oh yeah it won't

Because every historical mention I've made has been little to no TV. You retard. It's all shite on TV, just same sex kissing, probably why you watch TV with your trollies around your ankles.

I watch Tipping Point and the Chase, (quiz shows) that are on 5 days a week, and even then, I see about 2 of them.

I bet you're a pensioner because you come across as old, slow, lazy, and stupid. Are inbred with Tommy Tainant.

• Captain Caveman

 

[westwall]

A few years ago, I switched on the TV and I thought a Formula 1 race had started. As I watched I wondered what the screechy whine was from the cars and not the familiar Formula 1 engine noise. It was Formula E. Must have been around the time they first started these large scalextric racing case because I was unaware they were trying to dumb down Formula 1. Suffice to say, I changed channel and just like womens football, never ever watch it.

What's sad is the Formula E isn't as fast as F1, doesn't cover the same distance, and they have to use TWO cars per driver to be able to cover even that distance.

 

[Old Rocks]

What's sad is the Formula E isn't as fast as F1, doesn't cover the same distance, and they have to use TWO cars per driver to be able to cover even that distance.

The present F1 cars are hybrids, and are faster because of the batteries they carry. As the batteries and capacitors become more energy dense, there will come a time that ICE engines will not be able to keep up. Inevitable.

 

[westwall]

The present F1 cars are hybrids, and are faster because of the batteries they carry. As the batteries and capacitors become more energy dense, there will come a time that ICE engines will not be able to keep up. Inevitable.

No, they are actually SLOWER than the cars of the 1980's and 90's

If you actually knew anything about the subject you wouldn't say such silly things.

 

[elektra]

The stupid obsession of 130-year-old technology never seems to die a deserving death.

Exactly, time to quit building electric cars, or maybe there needs to be a test before morons post, what do you think?

• Early Experiments:
  Robert Anderson is credited with building a crude electric carriage around 1832-1839, but it was not rechargeable.
  
  
• Rechargeable Batteries:
  The invention of the rechargeable battery by Gaston Planté in 1859 was crucial for the development of practical electric vehicles.
  
  
• • Thomas Parker's Electric Car (1884):
    A British inventor, Thomas Parker, is known for creating an electric car in 1884, and he was also involved in electrifying the London Underground.
    
  • William Morrison's Electric Vehicle (1890):
    William Morrison, an American chemist, built a six-passenger electric vehicle in 1890, which is considered the first practical electric car in the US.

 

[Old Rocks]

No, they are actually SLOWER than the cars of the 1980's and 90's

If you actually knew anything about the subject you wouldn't say such silly things.

Now Westie, must you lie about everything?

Here's How Formula 1 Lap Times Have Improved Over The Years | Carscoops

As technology progressed, so did the ability of F1 cars to complete faster and faster lap times.

www.carscoops.com

 

[westwall]

Now Westie, must you lie about everything?

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Here's How Formula 1 Lap Times Have Improved Over The Years | Carscoops

As technology progressed, so did the ability of F1 cars to complete faster and faster lap times.

www.carscoops.com

Yeah, through aerodynamics. The power and speed of the 1980s and 90's was much higher than today you ignorant toad.

In fact the FIA have been using rules to slow down the cars for over three decades.

DURRRRRR

Like I said, you don't know squat about the sport.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Yeah, through aerodynamics. The power and speed of the 1980s and 90's was much higher than today you ignorant toad.

In fact the FIA have been using rules to slow down the cars for over three decades.

DURRRRRR

Like I said, you don't know squat about the sport.

Similar to what NASCAR did for some of the biggest racetracks by instilling restrictor plates to limit horsepower to reduce speeds for safety but it now creates boring races as the cars are bunched up together all race long as a result.

 

[Old Rocks]

Yeah, through aerodynamics. The power and speed of the 1980s and 90's was much higher than today you ignorant toad.

In fact the FIA have been using rules to slow down the cars for over three decades.

DURRRRRR

Like I said, you don't know squat about the sport.

So the power and speed was greater in the 1980's and 1990's but the lap times are much shorter now. LOL By your definition a fuel dragster then is the ideal F1 car. Anyone with a brain can see that you lied about the present F1 cars being slower than those of 45 years ago.

 

[Old Rocks]

Similar to what NASCAR did for some of the biggest racetracks by instilling restrictor plates to limit horsepower to reduce speeds for safety but it now creates boring races as the cars are bunched up together all race long as a result.

Ah yes, let's all stand in the horse turds by the highway, yelling, "Get a Horse". LOL You silly asses are always going on about how wonderful everything was before 1900. LOL

 

[westwall]

So the power and speed was greater in the 1980's and 1990's but the lap times are much shorter now. LOL By your definition a fuel dragster then is the ideal F1 car. Anyone with a brain can see that you lied about the present F1 cars being slower than those of 45 years ago.

Yes, it was. The lap times are better now thanks to the aerodynamics that create downforce in the corners. The horsepower output for the most bonkers period of F1, the "Turbo Era", was 1350 horsepower for the special qualifying engines. Affectionately known as "grenades", they were designed to last 3 laps.

Like I said, you literally know nothing about the subject.