Was the election overturned?
It certainly could’ve been if Mike Pence had agreed to recognize the fake electors’ certificates.
NFBW wrote: As you can see, POST-298 was not about DJT officials and politicians helping to plan a peaceful STOP THE STEAL RALLY. It was about those TRUMP enablers who helped with the
Eastman Plan to overturn the election on Jan6.
The peaceful rally accomplishes nothing on January 6.
It was the Eastman Plan that would have destroyed democracy had it succeeded.
The violent mob believed it was their patriotic duty to
stop the certification process to save America as DJT led them to believe when, in the midst of the riot, DJT tweeted to the violent mob that Pence was a coward. So the mob wanted to hang him. 21OCT25-POST#298
struth wrote: …so what? Folks helped plan a rally....we know that...who cares? 21OCT24-POST#299.
struth said: what facts am i avoiding?
Oldestyle wrote: Oh, now there is a "written plan" to destroy democracy, NotFooled? You of course have SEEN this plan...right? (eye roll) 21OCT25-POST#316
NotfooledbyW said: read it yourself: 21OCT25-POST#319
Correll wrote: Trump called for a demonstration to put political pressure on Congress. You saying "disrupt" is you lying. 21OCT16-POST#882
NFBW wrote: It’s laid out in
the Eastman Memo: 21OCT16-POST#886
1. VP Pence, presiding over the joint session (or Senate Pro Tempore Grassley, if Pence recuses himself), begins to open and count the ballots,….
2. When he gets to Arizona, he announces that he has multiple slates of electors, and so is going to defer decision on that until finishing the other States. [FIRST DISRUPTION >> }This would be the first break with the procedure set out in the Act.
3. At the end, he announces that because of the ongoing disputes in the 7 States, there are no electors that can be deemed validly appointed in those States.
{You don’t think this would be a disruption Correll >>>} Pence then gavels President Trump as re-elected there as well
EASTMAN tells DJT It’s disruptive>>>}
4. Howls, of course, from the Democrats, who were now claim, contrary to Tribe’s prior position, that 270 is required. So Pence says, fine
. Pursuant to the 12th Amendment, no candidate has achieved the necessary majority.
That sends the matter to the House, where the “the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote . . . .”
Republicans currently control 26 of the state delegations, the bare majority needed to win that vote. President Trump is re-elected there as well.
5. One last piece. Assuming the Electoral Count Act process is followed and, upon getting the objections to the Arizona slates, the two houses break into their separate chambers, we should not allow the Electoral Count Act constraint on debate to control. That would mean that a prior legislature was determining the rules of the present one — a constitutional no-no (as Tribe has forcefully argued). So someone – Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, etc. – should demand normal rules (which includes the filibuster).
That creates a stalemate that would give the state legislatures more time to weigh in to formally support the alternate slate of electors, if they had not already done so.
{But PENCE WAS A COWARD AFTER THE DISRUPTION of the riot was over AND STUCK WITH THE PROCESS >>>}
6. The main thing here is that Pence should do this without asking for permission – either from a vote of the joint session or from the Court. Let the other side challenge his actions in court, where
Tribe (who in 2001 conceded the President of the Senate might be in charge of counting the votes) and others who would press a lawsuit would have their past position -- that these are non-justiciable political questions – thrown back at them, to get the lawsuit dismissed.
The fact is that the Constitution assigns this power to the Vice President as the ultimate arbiter.
We should take all of our actions with that in mind. TRUMP-Jan6-COUPattempt “””
Oldestyle said: Where in that mess was any "written plan" to destroy our Democracy? Why do you talk out of your ass, Notfooled? You always get called on it and you always look like an idiot.
