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[Brain357]

Please share the numbers then.

Here:
Mass Incarceration: The Whole Pie 2019

Knock yourself out.

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You read your own link?

But at the state and local levels, far more people are locked up for violent and property offenses than for drug offenses alone.

Why does your kind keep releasing them?

You really are that dumb?

Trump releasing them.

Exclusive: Violent criminals and sex offenders released early due to 'First Step Act' legislation

Sez the lying pos that thinks releasing violent scum is funny.

Your idiocy is funny. Only a moron would see we have the highest incarceration rate in the world and complain the problem is releasing too many...

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

That's right! If you filthy scum would stop letting violent criminals go free that would change.

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

You can thank privatized prison system and the illegal war on drugs for that.

Eliminate non-violent offenders and it's pretty comparable.

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Please share the numbers then.

Here:
Mass Incarceration: The Whole Pie 2019

Knock yourself out.

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You read your own link?

But at the state and local levels, far more people are locked up for violent and property offenses than for drug offenses alone.

FAR MORE?

It's about 50-50. What are looking at?

ALSO keep in mind that MANY of the violent offenders have been violent because of the black market created by GOVERNMENT!!!

So, if we reduce our incarceration by just 35% (releasing drug offenders etc) where does that put us?

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[Brain357]

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

You can thank privatized prison system and the illegal war on drugs for that.

Eliminate non-violent offenders and it's pretty comparable.

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Please share the numbers then.

Here:
Mass Incarceration: The Whole Pie 2019

Knock yourself out.

.

You read your own link?

But at the state and local levels, far more people are locked up for violent and property offenses than for drug offenses alone.

FAR MORE?

It's about 50-50. What are looking at?

ALSO keep in mind that MANY of the violent offenders have been violent because of the black market created by GOVERNMENT!!!

So, if we reduce our incarceration by just 35% (releasing drug offenders etc) where does that put us?

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You seem to disagree with your own link. Let me know when you have real numbers.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Here:
Mass Incarceration: The Whole Pie 2019

Knock yourself out.

.

You read your own link?

But at the state and local levels, far more people are locked up for violent and property offenses than for drug offenses alone.

Why does your kind keep releasing them?

You really are that dumb?

Trump releasing them.

Exclusive: Violent criminals and sex offenders released early due to 'First Step Act' legislation

Sez the lying pos that thinks releasing violent scum is funny.

Your idiocy is funny. Only a moron would see we have the highest incarceration rate in the world and complain the problem is releasing too many...

There's also this problem:

"In China and some other countries, however, data limitations make direct comparisons with the U.S. tricky. The World Prison Brief notes, for instance, that China’s total excludes inmates being held in “administrative detention” – a type of confinement that may house more than 650,000 additional people. Adding an additional 650,000 inmates to China’s total would place it ahead of the U.S. in terms of total incarcerated population."

U.S. incarceration rate is at its lowest in 20 years

You can't compare us to the rest of the world on incarceration rates because many countries lie and hide records while others have a shitty criminal justice system, where very few crimes are even prosecuted. The comparison is unreliable.

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[Brain357]

You read your own link?

But at the state and local levels, far more people are locked up for violent and property offenses than for drug offenses alone.

Why does your kind keep releasing them?

You really are that dumb?

Trump releasing them.

Exclusive: Violent criminals and sex offenders released early due to 'First Step Act' legislation

Sez the lying pos that thinks releasing violent scum is funny.

Your idiocy is funny. Only a moron would see we have the highest incarceration rate in the world and complain the problem is releasing too many...

There's also this problem:

"In China and some other countries, however, data limitations make direct comparisons with the U.S. tricky. The World Prison Brief notes, for instance, that China’s total excludes inmates being held in “administrative detention” – a type of confinement that may house more than 650,000 additional people. Adding an additional 650,000 inmates to China’s total would place it ahead of the U.S. in terms of total incarcerated population."

U.S. incarceration rate is at its lowest in 20 years

You can't compare us to the rest of the world on incarceration rates because many countries lie and hide records while others have a shitty criminal justice system, where very few crimes are even prosecuted. The comparison is unreliable.

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And we still have tons of people in jail.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

You can thank privatized prison system and the illegal war on drugs for that.

Eliminate non-violent offenders and it's pretty comparable.

.

Please share the numbers then.

Here:
Mass Incarceration: The Whole Pie 2019

Knock yourself out.

.

You read your own link?

But at the state and local levels, far more people are locked up for violent and property offenses than for drug offenses alone.

FAR MORE?

It's about 50-50. What are looking at?

ALSO keep in mind that MANY of the violent offenders have been violent because of the black market created by GOVERNMENT!!!

So, if we reduce our incarceration by just 35% (releasing drug offenders etc) where does that put us?

.

You seem to disagree with your own link. Let me know when you have real numbers.

You let me know when you have some reliable numbers.

So far, it appears to be an accounting game or a result of ineffective criminal justice.

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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Why does your kind keep releasing them?

You really are that dumb?

Trump releasing them.

Exclusive: Violent criminals and sex offenders released early due to 'First Step Act' legislation

Sez the lying pos that thinks releasing violent scum is funny.

Your idiocy is funny. Only a moron would see we have the highest incarceration rate in the world and complain the problem is releasing too many...

There's also this problem:

"In China and some other countries, however, data limitations make direct comparisons with the U.S. tricky. The World Prison Brief notes, for instance, that China’s total excludes inmates being held in “administrative detention” – a type of confinement that may house more than 650,000 additional people. Adding an additional 650,000 inmates to China’s total would place it ahead of the U.S. in terms of total incarcerated population."

U.S. incarceration rate is at its lowest in 20 years

You can't compare us to the rest of the world on incarceration rates because many countries lie and hide records while others have a shitty criminal justice system, where very few crimes are even prosecuted. The comparison is unreliable.

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And we still have tons of people in jail.

And we have the "best" criminal justice system the world has ever known (or the most effective).

The comparison is unreliable.

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[Billy_Kinetta]

- there sure seem to be a lot of shootings in California lately.

Southern California deputy shot by apparent sniper

Theft is illegal and yet people still steal. Should we just dump the law against stealing?
Rape is illegal and yet women are still being raped. Should we just dump the law against rape?

The shooter in this situation was in a gov't controlled facility for the MENTALLY ILL.

So the problem reverts BACK to the fact that there's more fucking guns in this country than people.

And you people will not take them away anytime in the foreseeable future, guaranteed.

 

[miketx]

- there sure seem to be a lot of shootings in California lately.

Southern California deputy shot by apparent sniper

Theft is illegal and yet people still steal. Should we just dump the law against stealing?
Rape is illegal and yet women are still being raped. Should we just dump the law against rape?

The shooter in this situation was in a gov't controlled facility for the MENTALLY ILL.

So the problem reverts BACK to the fact that there's more fucking guns in this country than people.

No liar, the problem is that monsters like you keep letting violent criminals roam free. Stop doing that and you end 90 percent of violent crime. You don't wanna do that, do you?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

- there sure seem to be a lot of shootings in California lately.

Southern California deputy shot by apparent sniper

Theft is illegal and yet people still steal. Should we just dump the law against stealing?
Rape is illegal and yet women are still being raped. Should we just dump the law against rape?

The shooter in this situation was in a gov't controlled facility for the MENTALLY ILL.

So the problem reverts BACK to the fact that there's more fucking guns in this country than people.

You're not even comparing apples to apples. You are pointing to prohibited actions, not prohibited objects.

Example: You would need to make penises (or is it penii) illegal, THEN point out that women are still being raped.

Get it?

"Gun control" (aka gradual confiscation) is denying an individual right, ASSUMING that all individuals will go on a murderous rampage.

Surely you see the complete difference, don't you?

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[Blues Man]

- there sure seem to be a lot of shootings in California lately.

Southern California deputy shot by apparent sniper

Theft is illegal and yet people still steal. Should we just dump the law against stealing?
Rape is illegal and yet women are still being raped. Should we just dump the law against rape?

The shooter in this situation was in a gov't controlled facility for the MENTALLY ILL.

So the problem reverts BACK to the fact that there's more fucking guns in this country than people.

Guns don't commit crimes people do it seems we have too many people willing to commit crimes.

 

[Blues Man]

there are 790000 full time cops in the country and last year 52 were killed in firearm related events

That's .0065% of cops that were killed in a firearm related event

That is hardly "alarming"

In this century, 25 U.K. officers died in the line of duty. The figure for the U.S.—2,445—is nearly 100 times that. Adjusting for numbers of officers, U.S. deaths are still 10 times higher.

https://psmag.com/news/cops-killing-and-being-killed

What are the percentages as compared to the total number of cops?

Now this is where you get disingenuous because not all line of duty deaths are gun related

Out of the 144 cops killed in the line of duty in 2018 only 52 were firearms related

For the same link:
But more civilians with guns, more cops getting killed. Since 2000, six U.K. cops have died from gunshots; in the U.S., 788. We have 11 times as many cops, but 130 times as many killed by guns. (The other two leading causes of police deaths are heart attacks and car accidents.)

Again

.0065% of US cops were killed in firearm related deaths in 2018

That is a ridiculously small percentage.

Like I said we have a criminal problem not a gun problem

.0027% of guns are used to commit murder

You have a 99.997% chance of not getting murdered by a person with a gun

If you're scared of getting murdered with a gun you have bigger problems

And the rate is many times higher than it should be.

I'm fine with it.


Like I said I'm not afraid of getting murdered by a person with a gun

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Here is the proper comparison:

People abuse their right to bear arms to commit mass murder and other crimes, therefore we must ban guns.

People abuse the freedom of the press to incite others to violence or to defame others, therefore we must ban printing presses.

Racists use their freedom of expression to intimidate "people of color" and force them to segregate by waiving the Flag of the Northern Virginia Army (the "Rebel" flag), therefore we must ban all flags.

Theocrats/Muslim Jehadists use freedom of religion to justify blowing up Americans and throwing gays from rooftops, therefore we must ban freedom of conscience (or ban brains, I guess).

 

[Blues Man]

I just proved that you are wrong, and you continue to deny the FACTS, with your "truth". Are you Joe "the groper" Biden?

You didn’t prove anything. I was discussing law enforcement being shot. You went to mass shootings? When was the last mass shooting in the U.K.? France?

Shall we discuss homicide rates if I am wrong?

Why are you so concerned with mass shootings?
The amount of people killed in mass shootings is miniscule.

Do you just like being caught up in the drama?

Our homicide rates are 4-5x higher than countries with strong gun control. Law enforcement is shot at an alarming rate.

Maybe you ghouls should stop letting violent criminals loose?

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

Here we go again

We lock up the wrong people and since 76% of people in prisons right now haven't been convicted of a crime and are merely awaiting trial a simple change in our arraignment and bail policies and procedures would greatly reduce that number

Then since more people are actually convicted of nonviolent crimes than violent crimes all we need to do is come up with some alternate sentencing for the least violent of crimes and that would reduce the prison population even more

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

In this century, 25 U.K. officers died in the line of duty. The figure for the U.S.—2,445—is nearly 100 times that. Adjusting for numbers of officers, U.S. deaths are still 10 times higher.

https://psmag.com/news/cops-killing-and-being-killed

What are the percentages as compared to the total number of cops?

Now this is where you get disingenuous because not all line of duty deaths are gun related

Out of the 144 cops killed in the line of duty in 2018 only 52 were firearms related

For the same link:
But more civilians with guns, more cops getting killed. Since 2000, six U.K. cops have died from gunshots; in the U.S., 788. We have 11 times as many cops, but 130 times as many killed by guns. (The other two leading causes of police deaths are heart attacks and car accidents.)

Again

.0065% of US cops were killed in firearm related deaths in 2018

That is a ridiculously small percentage.

Like I said we have a criminal problem not a gun problem

.0027% of guns are used to commit murder

You have a 99.997% chance of not getting murdered by a person with a gun

If you're scared of getting murdered with a gun you have bigger problems

And the rate is many times higher than it should be.

I'm fine with it.


Like I said I'm not afraid of getting murdered by a person with a gun

Brain claims that he not afraid of getting murdered by a person with a gun, even though he owns none himself, but he won't put a sign in his yard advertising that fact.

.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

You didn’t prove anything. I was discussing law enforcement being shot. You went to mass shootings? When was the last mass shooting in the U.K.? France?

Shall we discuss homicide rates if I am wrong?

Why are you so concerned with mass shootings?
The amount of people killed in mass shootings is miniscule.

Do you just like being caught up in the drama?

Our homicide rates are 4-5x higher than countries with strong gun control. Law enforcement is shot at an alarming rate.

Maybe you ghouls should stop letting violent criminals loose?

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

Here we go again

We lock up the wrong people and since 76% of people in prisons right now haven't been convicted of a crime and are merely awaiting trial a simple change in our arraignment and bail policies and procedures would greatly reduce that number

Then since more people are actually convicted of nonviolent crimes than violent crimes all we need to do is come up with some alternate sentencing for the least violent of crimes and that would reduce the prison population even more

Exactly. It's a fucking shell game, and establishment cocksuckers in the U.S. are willful participants, so they can lie to the American people to gin up support for certain policies.

One can look no further than the Department of Education for this same phenomenon. They try to convince us that Americans are the dumbest motherfuckers on earth by making our numbers look really shitty and ignoring the highly questionable reporting practices of other nations. It's all horse shit.

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[Brain357]

You really are that dumb?

Trump releasing them.

Exclusive: Violent criminals and sex offenders released early due to 'First Step Act' legislation

Sez the lying pos that thinks releasing violent scum is funny.

Your idiocy is funny. Only a moron would see we have the highest incarceration rate in the world and complain the problem is releasing too many...

There's also this problem:

"In China and some other countries, however, data limitations make direct comparisons with the U.S. tricky. The World Prison Brief notes, for instance, that China’s total excludes inmates being held in “administrative detention” – a type of confinement that may house more than 650,000 additional people. Adding an additional 650,000 inmates to China’s total would place it ahead of the U.S. in terms of total incarcerated population."

U.S. incarceration rate is at its lowest in 20 years

You can't compare us to the rest of the world on incarceration rates because many countries lie and hide records while others have a shitty criminal justice system, where very few crimes are even prosecuted. The comparison is unreliable.

.

And we still have tons of people in jail.

And we have the "best" criminal justice system the world has ever known (or the most effective).

The comparison is unreliable.

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Sorry, but the facts are clear. We have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

 

[Brain357]

You didn’t prove anything. I was discussing law enforcement being shot. You went to mass shootings? When was the last mass shooting in the U.K.? France?

Shall we discuss homicide rates if I am wrong?

Why are you so concerned with mass shootings?
The amount of people killed in mass shootings is miniscule.

Do you just like being caught up in the drama?

Our homicide rates are 4-5x higher than countries with strong gun control. Law enforcement is shot at an alarming rate.

Maybe you ghouls should stop letting violent criminals loose?

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

Here we go again

We lock up the wrong people and since 76% of people in prisons right now haven't been convicted of a crime and are merely awaiting trial a simple change in our arraignment and bail policies and procedures would greatly reduce that number

Then since more people are actually convicted of nonviolent crimes than violent crimes all we need to do is come up with some alternate sentencing for the least violent of crimes and that would reduce the prison population even more

As does every country. And we still have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

 

[Brain357]

What are the percentages as compared to the total number of cops?

Now this is where you get disingenuous because not all line of duty deaths are gun related

Out of the 144 cops killed in the line of duty in 2018 only 52 were firearms related

For the same link:
But more civilians with guns, more cops getting killed. Since 2000, six U.K. cops have died from gunshots; in the U.S., 788. We have 11 times as many cops, but 130 times as many killed by guns. (The other two leading causes of police deaths are heart attacks and car accidents.)

Again

.0065% of US cops were killed in firearm related deaths in 2018

That is a ridiculously small percentage.

Like I said we have a criminal problem not a gun problem

.0027% of guns are used to commit murder

You have a 99.997% chance of not getting murdered by a person with a gun

If you're scared of getting murdered with a gun you have bigger problems

And the rate is many times higher than it should be.

I'm fine with it.


Like I said I'm not afraid of getting murdered by a person with a gun

Brain claims that he not afraid of getting murdered by a person with a gun, even though he owns none himself, but he won't put a sign in his yard advertising that fact.

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And I go out without a gun. Actually outside. Horrifying to you isn’t it?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

For the same link:
But more civilians with guns, more cops getting killed. Since 2000, six U.K. cops have died from gunshots; in the U.S., 788. We have 11 times as many cops, but 130 times as many killed by guns. (The other two leading causes of police deaths are heart attacks and car accidents.)

Again

.0065% of US cops were killed in firearm related deaths in 2018

That is a ridiculously small percentage.

Like I said we have a criminal problem not a gun problem

.0027% of guns are used to commit murder

You have a 99.997% chance of not getting murdered by a person with a gun

If you're scared of getting murdered with a gun you have bigger problems

And the rate is many times higher than it should be.

I'm fine with it.


Like I said I'm not afraid of getting murdered by a person with a gun

Brain claims that he not afraid of getting murdered by a person with a gun, even though he owns none himself, but he won't put a sign in his yard advertising that fact.

.

And I go out without a gun. Actually outside. Horrifying to you isn’t it?

Do you wear a sign on your neck that tells people you are not armed?



You live under the protection WE provide. You're welcome.

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