Florist Sued for Refusing Service to Gay Couple Pens Defiant Letter Rejecting Gov’t Settlement Offer

[SassyIrishLass]

They are Christians? How can you tell? What does a Christian look like?

Of course they are- just like yourself- they call themselves Christians.

And think of homosexuals exactly as you do.

A Google search reveals they are Westboro...not Christians. Nice try though

Your Google is broken.

Westboro Baptist Church - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

My Google is fine, the pic is an image of Westboro and I don't consider them Christians. Stop getting your man briefs in a bunch

I don't wear underwear and your interest is creepy.

Baptist is Christian...just like you say you are.

I could slap the name plate from our BMW on a Chevy but that doesn't make the Chevy a BMW

 

[Seawytch]

How many of these Christians that don't want to be painted with the Westboro brush....would like to paint all Muslims?

 

[bendog]

The florist was only interested in cross-pollination.

 

[koshergrl]

MARRIAGE IS RELIGIOUS. Whether or not YOU believe so is immaterial. Those of us who DO see it as a sacrament CANNOT BE FORCED TO PARTICIPATE IN A SACRILEGIOUS TRAVESTY OF A HOLY EVENT.

So tell me, do you see divorce as an anti-sacrament?

You mean that thing Jesus actually condemned, unlike gays?

When one of these "Christian" businesses refuses to serve a divorcee or single mother, I'll start believing their "deeply held beliefs".

None of those businesses refused to serve gays either. The gay guy had been a customer of the florist for nine years.

Yeah, they didn't refuse service because the people were gay.

They refused to participate in a homo ritual that degrades a sacrament.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

How many of these Christians that don't want to be painted with the Westboro brush....would like to paint all Muslims?

I know some Muslims I think very highly of, in fact they help feed the homeless on weekends. Your problem is when you hear Christian you think Westboro and assume all Christians are like that. One can disagree with a lifestyle but that doesn't mean they hate the person living the lifestyle. Some Homos love playing the victim

 

[Seawytch]

Of course they are- just like yourself- they call themselves Christians.

And think of homosexuals exactly as you do.

A Google search reveals they are Westboro...not Christians. Nice try though

Your Google is broken.

Westboro Baptist Church - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

My Google is fine, the pic is an image of Westboro and I don't consider them Christians. Stop getting your man briefs in a bunch

I don't wear underwear and your interest is creepy.

Baptist is Christian...just like you say you are.

I could slap the name plate from our BMW on a Chevy but that doesn't make the Chevy a BMW

As an outsider I could say that neither one of you were Christian (and the Jesus I've read about would agree)or both of you are if you say you are.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

A Google search reveals they are Westboro...not Christians. Nice try though

Your Google is broken.

Westboro Baptist Church - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

My Google is fine, the pic is an image of Westboro and I don't consider them Christians. Stop getting your man briefs in a bunch

I don't wear underwear and your interest is creepy.

Baptist is Christian...just like you say you are.

I could slap the name plate from our BMW on a Chevy but that doesn't make the Chevy a BMW

As an outsider I could say that neither one of you were Christian (and the Jesus I've read about would agree)or both of you are if you say you are.

You can say anything you want, that's your right....and opinion

 

[Syriusly]

How many of these Christians that don't want to be painted with the Westboro brush....would like to paint all Muslims?

I know some Muslims I think very highly of, in fact they help feed the homeless on weekends. Your problem is when you hear Christian you think Westboro and assume all Christians are like that. One can disagree with a lifestyle but that doesn't mean they hate the person living the lifestyle. Some Homos love playing the victim

I don't assume that all Christians are like your or the Westboro Church.

Matter of fact, I don't know any Christians like you or the Westboro Church.

I presume both of you are ugly bigoted aberrations.

 

[Katzndogz]

As far as I know, Jesus never told his followers to go out and commit sins. If you have such a statement from Jesus would you please cite chapter and verse.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

How many of these Christians that don't want to be painted with the Westboro brush....would like to paint all Muslims?

I know some Muslims I think very highly of, in fact they help feed the homeless on weekends. Your problem is when you hear Christian you think Westboro and assume all Christians are like that. One can disagree with a lifestyle but that doesn't mean they hate the person living the lifestyle. Some Homos love playing the victim

I don't assume that all Christians are like your or the Westboro Church.

Matter of fact, I don't know any Christians like you or the Westboro Church.

I presume both of you are ugly bigoted aberrations.

If you think what you think bothers me I have some bad news for you

 

[Seawytch]

MARRIAGE IS RELIGIOUS. Whether or not YOU believe so is immaterial. Those of us who DO see it as a sacrament CANNOT BE FORCED TO PARTICIPATE IN A SACRILEGIOUS TRAVESTY OF A HOLY EVENT.

So tell me, do you see divorce as an anti-sacrament?

You mean that thing Jesus actually condemned, unlike gays?

When one of these "Christian" businesses refuses to serve a divorcee or single mother, I'll start believing their "deeply held beliefs".

None of those businesses refused to serve gays either. The gay guy had been a customer of the florist for nine years.

You can't say "none". This one did...until she didn't. That's when the law was violated. She challenged and lost. She says she'll appeal. The SCOTUS already turned one case down. We shall see.

 

[Katzndogz]

The appeal will be made on religious and artistic freedom grounds.

 

[Seawytch]

How many of these Christians that don't want to be painted with the Westboro brush....would like to paint all Muslims?

I know some Muslims I think very highly of, in fact they help feed the homeless on weekends. Your problem is when you hear Christian you think Westboro and assume all Christians are like that. One can disagree with a lifestyle but that doesn't mean they hate the person living the lifestyle. Some Homos love playing the victim

I don't assume that all Christians are like your or the Westboro Church.

Matter of fact, I don't know any Christians like you or the Westboro Church.

I presume both of you are ugly bigoted aberrations.

Indeed. 77% of the country is Christian. Far fewer are anti gay.

 

[UllysesS.Archer]

Or she can just go into a business that doesn't require her to offend her imaginary sky pixie.

Bigot.

Yes, he is!

How many times have you seen posted anything like this about a Muslim? They are definitely scared of Muslims, for good reasons. But a grandmother making a life for herself, she is fair game.

What about all the threads about the Muslim taxi drivers who didn't, for religious reasons, want to take fares that had alcohol or pets? They can get new jobs that don't conflict with their religion too.

So your way of thinking says, if a rape victim owns a beauty shop, and her alledged rapist(released on a technicality) walks in, then she should have to serve him.

Nice way of thinking you have there.

What I find very interesting is that christians want to be able to discriminate people using their religion will open the door to muslims demanding that they should be able to discriminate against people using their religion.

The constitution clearly says that everyone must be treated equally under the law. What is allowed for christians will have to be allowed for muslims.

So if those stupid homophobe christians want to keep muslim laws out of our society, they have to stop trying to impose christian law on our society.

 

[WorldWatcher]

The appeal will be made on religious and artistic freedom grounds.

The case of Elane Photography was presented to the New Mexico Supreme Court on religious freedom and 1st Amendment (artistic freedom) grounds. They lost on those arguments.

The case was appealed to the United States Supreme Court last fall, the SCOTUS rejected the appeal.


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[bendog]

You know, I really don't care much about threads of what would Jesus do, and this is becoming one. But, if anyone can possibly tell me how the florist's Christian beliefs were infringed upon by having to take gay folk's money for flowers, I might listen. But REALLY, the florist wants to register her disapproval. I mean, if she unwittingly provided "gay flowers" she'd just as much facilitated what she considers a sin, and frankly she is not facilitating anything because the gays are gonna do what they want with or without her. In short, it's about her, and not the gays.

And that observation leads me "what would Jesus do," though I personally don't like going there. I've read various books on biblical archeology and history and the social mores of the times of early Christianity and Jesus's ministry, and really he got in trouble because he DIDN"T hang with the religious elites, and he intentionally hung out with the tax collectors and various low lifes. {edit: he actually stole the donkey he road into Jerusalem with for his fatal and final confrontation} Personally, I find most of the NT to be parable, but there's a reason why Jesus hangs literally between two thieves at the crucifixion.

So instead of shedding tears for the florist, it seems to me she needs counseling in loving sinners and praying that God shows them how God wants them to live. jmo

 

[JoeB131]

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Here, let me provide you with a link to something you apparently know little about:

Google

Here is a real "nutter" site with the story:

EEOC Sues Star Transport, Inc. for Religious Discrimination

We all know you are smart enough to use google for yourself. But we also know that is not why you don't. You ask me to do it implying that either I won't, and if i don't then it proves that the story is not true, or your claim is that the source is not reliable unless I prove otherwise. Both complete BS but that is really what the left is all about these days.

Guy, I have a REAL job, and I don't have time to google to debunk all your silly claims.

From the EEOC Summary of the case.

"Our investigation revealed that Star could have readily avoided assigning these employees to alcohol delivery without any undue hardship, but chose to force the issue despite the employees' Islamic religion."

Failure to accommodate the religious beliefs of employees, when this can be done without undue hardship, violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which prohibits discrimination on the basis of religion.

Wow. Not complicated. They could have given the beer run to someone else, without a hardship, the chose to force the issue.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

The appeal will be made on religious and artistic freedom grounds.

Get over it and stop wasting taxpayer's money. Who gives a phlying phuck about a phlorist with a bug up her ass?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The appeal will be made on religious and artistic freedom grounds.

Get over it and stop wasting taxpayer's money. Who gives a phlying phuck about a phlorist with a bug up her ass?

Plenty care

 

[JoeB131]

Just one question: why would a gay couple want to do business with a florist who does not approve of gay marriage? Why would they want to contribute to the profit of a business that does not approve of their lifestyle?

Try to answer honestly.

Maybe that was the only florist they thought could do the job they wanted done. It really doesn't matter. Once the florist offered to do floral arrangements for marriage, they were obligated to do them.

Now, the way around this is for bakers or florists to put up a sign saying, "We are legally obligated to cater to gay marriage despite our religious objections. Please be aware that all proceeds from services for gay marriage will be donated to Gay Conversion Therapy."