Florida Pulse gay club attacked

[SassyIrishLass]

Orlando gay nightclub shooting: Who was Omar Mateen? - BBC News

It seems he was a mentally ill lone wolf gunman.

How does he seem mentally ill? He meticulously planned this attack. He had been in contact with radical Islamics and had visited Saudi Arabia twice. He held down a regular job. Killing people does not make him mentally ill.

So the right wing papers tell us,
Another news source has let out more.

He was a gay customer of the club for at least three years.

Orlando killer Omar Mateen 'visited Pulse gay club' - BBC News

Chris Callen, a performer at Pulse in Orlando, Florida, told the New York Daily News that Omar Mateen had visited the venue over the past three years.

The story is turning from an ISIS radical Muslim mass murder to a poof with a legal gun shooting up his bitches.
Maybe one of them bit whilst sucking him off.

The Trump version of the story is falling apart as the truth comes out.

What's "Trump's version"? Did the muzzie pledge allegiance to ISIS or not?

 

[Iceweasel]

Orlando gay nightclub shooting: Who was Omar Mateen? - BBC News

It seems he was a mentally ill lone wolf gunman.

How does he seem mentally ill? He meticulously planned this attack. He had been in contact with radical Islamics and had visited Saudi Arabia twice. He held down a regular job. Killing people does not make him mentally ill.

So the right wing papers tell us,
Another news source has let out more.

He was a gay customer of the club for at least three years.

Orlando killer Omar Mateen 'visited Pulse gay club' - BBC News

Chris Callen, a performer at Pulse in Orlando, Florida, told the New York Daily News that Omar Mateen had visited the venue over the past three years.

The story is turning from an ISIS radical Muslim mass murder to a poof with a legal gun shooting up his bitches.
Maybe one of them bit whilst sucking him off.

The Trump version of the story is falling apart as the truth comes out.

How so?

 

[saveliberty]

 

[Indofred]

"Rate of fire" means everything

No, rate of killing means everything.
Whilst this head case gay with a grudge managed around 50, 93 more, including a three year old girl.

There have been 93 US gun-related deaths in 72 hours, not including Orlando

Why isn't anyone talking about the last 93?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

"Rate of fire" means everything

No, rate of killing means everything.
Whilst this head case gay with a grudge managed around 50, 93 more, including a three year old girl.

There have been 93 US gun-related deaths in 72 hours, not including Orlando

Why isn't anyone talking about the last 93?

You're a ******* dunce

 

[Indofred]

I've just had a thought.
ISIS claimed this guy as quickly as they could, but I wonder if they'll retract now they know he was a shit stabber.

 

[Indofred]

"Rate of fire" means everything

No, rate of killing means everything.
Whilst this head case gay with a grudge managed around 50, 93 more, including a three year old girl.

There have been 93 US gun-related deaths in 72 hours, not including Orlando

Why isn't anyone talking about the last 93?

You're a ******* dunce

Why, are the last 93 of little interest because they weren't killed by a Muslim?

 

[Mudda]

If it means keeping ARs out of the hands of terrorists and mass murderers, me personally, I'd be willing to give up such a gun or the possibility of buying one. But hey, that's just me, I'll do what it takes to stop terrorists. You on the other hand, are helping them. Everyone has to make a choice in these hard times. You choose to let terrorists buy such weapons.

And as for the economic system collapsing, it already did a few years ago. How useful was your assault weapon? The rest is pure NRA paranoia.

I don't like drunk drivers and if you own a car turn it in. Otherwise you are helping drunk drivers kill people, and they do so in much more abundance.

You can turn in your rifle, when did I say you shouldn't? The economy didn't die but assholes like you will be the first ones robbing people for food if it does. Your feelings trump other people's rights.

Not one terrorist drove drunk to kill people. EPIC FAIL number 1.
If I don't have a gun, how am I going to rob people? EPIC FAIL number2.

And we all noticed that you don't dispute that your stance on easy access to assault weapons is helping terrorists.

You're an EPIC FAIL as an American.

You missed the point patting yourself on the back makes you look even stupider. You don't have a point, you offered us nothing to dispute. We can't dispute your feelings. You've repeated that line at least 20 times from what I've seen, thinking it somehow becomes valid with repetition.

It's no small coincidence that dumb ***** like you share similar ideologies.

Here, just so you have a taste of what being an American is all about.

You post bullshit then think a video makes it go away?

You'll fight tooth and nail to let terrorists buy assault weapons in the US and you think that makes you an American?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

"Rate of fire" means everything

No, rate of killing means everything.
Whilst this head case gay with a grudge managed around 50, 93 more, including a three year old girl.

There have been 93 US gun-related deaths in 72 hours, not including Orlando

Why isn't anyone talking about the last 93?

You're a ******* dunce

Why, are the last 93 of little interest because they weren't killed by a Muslim?

Stop going off on tangents, good grief, I said rate of fire means everything and you're babbling about BS. Stop being annoying

 

[Mudda]

I've just had a thought.
ISIS claimed this guy as quickly as they could, but I wonder if they'll retract now they know he was a shit stabber.

Why? Did ISIS throw YOU back when they found out you were a fudge packer?

 

[Iceweasel]

I don't like drunk drivers and if you own a car turn it in. Otherwise you are helping drunk drivers kill people, and they do so in much more abundance.

You can turn in your rifle, when did I say you shouldn't? The economy didn't die but assholes like you will be the first ones robbing people for food if it does. Your feelings trump other people's rights.

Not one terrorist drove drunk to kill people. EPIC FAIL number 1.
If I don't have a gun, how am I going to rob people? EPIC FAIL number2.

And we all noticed that you don't dispute that your stance on easy access to assault weapons is helping terrorists.

You're an EPIC FAIL as an American.

You missed the point patting yourself on the back makes you look even stupider. You don't have a point, you offered us nothing to dispute. We can't dispute your feelings. You've repeated that line at least 20 times from what I've seen, thinking it somehow becomes valid with repetition.

It's no small coincidence that dumb ***** like you share similar ideologies.

Here, just so you have a taste of what being an American is all about.

You post bullshit then think a video makes it go away?

You'll fight tooth and nail to let terrorists buy assault weapons in the US and you think that makes you an American?

We had ARs all along. You're retard interpretation of assault weapon not with standing. But YOU are the problem, not me.

You want easier access to the US by terrorists and if they chose to use an AR you want the AR banned. You pathetic simpleton. You don't even understand how dangerous you are.

 

[Czernobog]

So, it has the same muzzle velocity. Can use the same clips, has the same force, but because it can't fire burst rounds that should make all the difference? That's what you're saying? At least you're not trying to deny that it is a military weapon, by design, not a hunting weapon.

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Now you are trying to shift the conversation again. It's a pattern with you. Shoot of your big mouth, make a fool of yourself then pretend the conversation was about something else in your victory dance.

They use magazines, not clips. Like I said the three round burst or full auto makes it an assault rifle. Semi-autos are not assault weapons.

Well, I think the people who use them to mount assaults - San Bernadino, Sandy Hook, Orlando - would disagree with you. They seem to make excellent assault weapons.

You can assault people with a baseball bat but that doesn't make it an assault weapon. You stupidly think by labeling a AR an assault weapon it will move us closer to an "assault weapons" ban. The Dems won't touch it because they've burned bridges with that before.

"Mounting an assault" is not synonymous with "assaulting someone", and you know it. "Mounting an assault" refers to assaulting a location with multiple targets. Now, would you mount an assault on a facility with a baseball bat? I suppose if you were stupid enough. But, could you reasonably expect any positive result? No. With an assault weapon, on the other hand...

I'm actually beginning to agree with Mudda. Since you do not deny that the AR-15 is, in fact, a military design, and you acknowledge that the only difference between the M4, and the AR15 is the rate of fire, why do you want to make it easier for terrorists, and nutcakes to get their hands on weapons that make it easier to kill large groups of people?

You can double down on retard, your call not mine. I don't want terrorists in the country. Trump is right and we should have had a plan in place to check the background of anyone coming in. The shooter wouldn't even have been here.

So it's you two retards that want to make it easier for terrorists to commit murder and since guns make you pee your diapers you try to blame them instead. You are the problem, not me.

Except his "plan" does not address the type of terrorism we're beginning to see. This wasn't some foreign national that waltzed over here, planned, and executed some assault that was funded, and trained for by ISIS. THIS was a guy that read their website, saw their call for citizens of the nations to use rocks, cars, or whatever they could get their hands on, and start attacking their own people. ISIS is no longer attacking anyone in the west directly. They are influencing the citizens of western nations to do it for them.

Now, I don't know what can be done to stop this kind of terrorist attack, but I do know that we can decrease the amount of damage these home-grown nutcakes can inflict by making it harder to get their hands on assault weapons.

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[doctordog]

Now you are trying to shift the conversation again. It's a pattern with you. Shoot of your big mouth, make a fool of yourself then pretend the conversation was about something else in your victory dance.

They use magazines, not clips. Like I said the three round burst or full auto makes it an assault rifle. Semi-autos are not assault weapons.

Well, I think the people who use them to mount assaults - San Bernadino, Sandy Hook, Orlando - would disagree with you. They seem to make excellent assault weapons.

You can assault people with a baseball bat but that doesn't make it an assault weapon. You stupidly think by labeling a AR an assault weapon it will move us closer to an "assault weapons" ban. The Dems won't touch it because they've burned bridges with that before.

"Mounting an assault" is not synonymous with "assaulting someone", and you know it. "Mounting an assault" refers to assaulting a location with multiple targets. Now, would you mount an assault on a facility with a baseball bat? I suppose if you were stupid enough. But, could you reasonably expect any positive result? No. With an assault weapon, on the other hand...

I'm actually beginning to agree with Mudda. Since you do not deny that the AR-15 is, in fact, a military design, and you acknowledge that the only difference between the M4, and the AR15 is the rate of fire, why do you want to make it easier for terrorists, and nutcakes to get their hands on weapons that make it easier to kill large groups of people?

You can double down on retard, your call not mine. I don't want terrorists in the country. Trump is right and we should have had a plan in place to check the background of anyone coming in. The shooter wouldn't even have been here.

So it's you two retards that want to make it easier for terrorists to commit murder and since guns make you pee your diapers you try to blame them instead. You are the problem, not me.

Except his "plan" does not address the type of terrorism we're beginning to see. This wasn't some foreign national that waltzed over here, planned, and executed some assault that was funded, and trained for by ISIS. THIS was a guy that read their website, saw their call for citizens of the nations to use rocks, cars, or whatever they could get their hands on, and start attacking their own people. ISIS is no longer attacking anyone in the west directly. They are influencing the citizens of western nations to do it for them.

Now, I don't know what can be done to stop this kind of terrorist attack, but I do know that we can decrease the amount of damage these home-grown nutcakes can inflict by making it harder to get their hands on assault weapons.

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Yes bans worked so well during prohibition and people never buy illegal weed or heroin. How about we addresss the people committing the crimes?

 

[Iceweasel]

I've just had a thought.
ISIS claimed this guy as quickly as they could, but I wonder if they'll retract now they know he was a shit stabber.

His ex wife and current wife aren't saying he was

Now you are trying to shift the conversation again. It's a pattern with you. Shoot of your big mouth, make a fool of yourself then pretend the conversation was about something else in your victory dance.

They use magazines, not clips. Like I said the three round burst or full auto makes it an assault rifle. Semi-autos are not assault weapons.

Well, I think the people who use them to mount assaults - San Bernadino, Sandy Hook, Orlando - would disagree with you. They seem to make excellent assault weapons.

You can assault people with a baseball bat but that doesn't make it an assault weapon. You stupidly think by labeling a AR an assault weapon it will move us closer to an "assault weapons" ban. The Dems won't touch it because they've burned bridges with that before.

"Mounting an assault" is not synonymous with "assaulting someone", and you know it. "Mounting an assault" refers to assaulting a location with multiple targets. Now, would you mount an assault on a facility with a baseball bat? I suppose if you were stupid enough. But, could you reasonably expect any positive result? No. With an assault weapon, on the other hand...

I'm actually beginning to agree with Mudda. Since you do not deny that the AR-15 is, in fact, a military design, and you acknowledge that the only difference between the M4, and the AR15 is the rate of fire, why do you want to make it easier for terrorists, and nutcakes to get their hands on weapons that make it easier to kill large groups of people?

You can double down on retard, your call not mine. I don't want terrorists in the country. Trump is right and we should have had a plan in place to check the background of anyone coming in. The shooter wouldn't even have been here.

So it's you two retards that want to make it easier for terrorists to commit murder and since guns make you pee your diapers you try to blame them instead. You are the problem, not me.

Except his "plan" does not address the type of terrorism we're beginning to see. This wasn't some foreign national that waltzed over here, planned, and executed some assault that was funded, and trained for by ISIS. THIS was a guy that read their website, saw their call for citizens of the nations to use rocks, cars, or whatever they could get their hands on, and start attacking their own people. ISIS is no longer attacking anyone in the west directly. They are influencing the citizens of western nations to do it for them.

Now, I don't know what can be done to stop this kind of terrorist attack, but I do know that we can decrease the amount of damage these home-grown nutcakes can inflict by making it harder to get their hands on assault weapons.

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No "plan" is perfect. All we can do is increase or decrease the odds. The shooter wouldn't have been here if we didn't have such a liberal immigration policy. Same with numerous others. No plan will stop it completely sans mind control.

There were enough warning signs where this guy shouldn't have been legally able to buy a pellet gun, as we've discussed. Trying to use this event to take away people's rifles isn't the answer. It wasn't even an AR but you want to ban ARs.

The answer is tougher immigration, Hillary wants more, Donald less. There's your answer.

 

[Mudda]

Not one terrorist drove drunk to kill people. EPIC FAIL number 1.
If I don't have a gun, how am I going to rob people? EPIC FAIL number2.

And we all noticed that you don't dispute that your stance on easy access to assault weapons is helping terrorists.

You're an EPIC FAIL as an American.

You missed the point patting yourself on the back makes you look even stupider. You don't have a point, you offered us nothing to dispute. We can't dispute your feelings. You've repeated that line at least 20 times from what I've seen, thinking it somehow becomes valid with repetition.

It's no small coincidence that dumb ***** like you share similar ideologies.

Here, just so you have a taste of what being an American is all about.

You post bullshit then think a video makes it go away?

You'll fight tooth and nail to let terrorists buy assault weapons in the US and you think that makes you an American?

We had ARs all along. You're retard interpretation of assault weapon not with standing. But YOU are the problem, not me.

You want easier access to the US by terrorists and if they chose to use an AR you want the AR banned. You pathetic simpleton. You don't even understand how dangerous you are.

Please quote where I said that I want easier access to the US for terrorists.
The guy was an American, were you ignorant of that fact? And the only way to stop Americans (and anyone else, like terrorists or Mexican drug cartels) from killing with assault weapons is to not sell assault weapons. What is it that you don't understand?

 

[Iceweasel]

You missed the point patting yourself on the back makes you look even stupider. You don't have a point, you offered us nothing to dispute. We can't dispute your feelings. You've repeated that line at least 20 times from what I've seen, thinking it somehow becomes valid with repetition.

It's no small coincidence that dumb ***** like you share similar ideologies.

Here, just so you have a taste of what being an American is all about.

You post bullshit then think a video makes it go away?

You'll fight tooth and nail to let terrorists buy assault weapons in the US and you think that makes you an American?

We had ARs all along. You're retard interpretation of assault weapon not with standing. But YOU are the problem, not me.

You want easier access to the US by terrorists and if they chose to use an AR you want the AR banned. You pathetic simpleton. You don't even understand how dangerous you are.

Please quote where I said that I want easier access to the US for terrorists.
The guy was an American, were you ignorant of that fact? And the only way to stop Americans (and anyone else, like terrorists or Mexican drug cartels) from killing with assault weapons is to not sell assault weapons. What is it that you don't understand?

Please quote where I said I want terrorists to have easier access to assault weapons, asshole.

You still don't even know what the term means, you can't learn. The fact is if you want to continue the liberal immigration policy you are indeed part of the problem. We've had the guns all along so it isn't the gun. Work on it.

 

[Mudda]

Here, just so you have a taste of what being an American is all about.

You post bullshit then think a video makes it go away?

You'll fight tooth and nail to let terrorists buy assault weapons in the US and you think that makes you an American?

We had ARs all along. You're retard interpretation of assault weapon not with standing. But YOU are the problem, not me.

You want easier access to the US by terrorists and if they chose to use an AR you want the AR banned. You pathetic simpleton. You don't even understand how dangerous you are.

Please quote where I said that I want easier access to the US for terrorists.
The guy was an American, were you ignorant of that fact? And the only way to stop Americans (and anyone else, like terrorists or Mexican drug cartels) from killing with assault weapons is to not sell assault weapons. What is it that you don't understand?

Please quote where I said I want terrorists to have easier access to assault weapons, asshole.

You still don't even know what the term means, you can't learn. The fact is if you want to continue the liberal immigration policy you are indeed part of the problem. We've had the guns all along so it isn't the gun. Work on it.

Not only do you want terrorists to have easy access to assault weapons, you want EVERYONE to have easy access to assault weapons like they do now, and you won't give an inch. What's the matter, don't even know what you write yourself?

 

[Iceweasel]

You post bullshit then think a video makes it go away?

You'll fight tooth and nail to let terrorists buy assault weapons in the US and you think that makes you an American?

We had ARs all along. You're retard interpretation of assault weapon not with standing. But YOU are the problem, not me.

You want easier access to the US by terrorists and if they chose to use an AR you want the AR banned. You pathetic simpleton. You don't even understand how dangerous you are.

Please quote where I said that I want easier access to the US for terrorists.
The guy was an American, were you ignorant of that fact? And the only way to stop Americans (and anyone else, like terrorists or Mexican drug cartels) from killing with assault weapons is to not sell assault weapons. What is it that you don't understand?

Please quote where I said I want terrorists to have easier access to assault weapons, asshole.

You still don't even know what the term means, you can't learn. The fact is if you want to continue the liberal immigration policy you are indeed part of the problem. We've had the guns all along so it isn't the gun. Work on it.

Not only do you want terrorists to have easy access to assault weapons, you want EVERYONE to have easy access to assault weapons like they do now, and you won't give an inch. What's the matter, don't even know what you write yourself?

It isn't what I said. I said he shouldn't have had the ability given his history and alignments. I also said if you support the liberal immigration policy you are part of the problem. Keep working on it.

 

[Indofred]

How so?

Because he was a regular and well known customer of a gay bar. If he went in often enough for the manager to know him, it wasn't a fleeting visit to case the joint.
Drrrr.

Looks like he was just a ***** scorned.

 

[Czernobog]

No "plan" is perfect. All we can do is increase or decrease the odds. The shooter wouldn't have been here if we didn't have such a liberal immigration policy. Same with numerous others. No plan will stop it completely sans mind control.

There were enough warning signs where this guy shouldn't have been legally able to buy a pellet gun, as we've discussed. Trying to use this event to take away people's rifles isn't the answer. It wasn't even an AR but you want to ban ARs.

Really? According to every source I have been able to find on the incident, it very much was an AR15.

New York Daily
Minnesota Star Tribune
Fox35

Just a few. Do you have information that the rest of us do not?

The answer is tougher immigration, Hillary wants more, Donald less. There's your answer.

And how, precisely, does tougher immigration prevent American citizens from accessing the internet, reading the sermons, and calls from terrorist organizations disseminated online, and deciding to act against their own people?