Floods and fires, USA

[Old Rocks]

A long time ago, I stated that when we had a series of weather events that each affected 100,000 or more, we would see people taking AGW seriously. I guess now we will find out if I was full of shit. For now there are 34000 residences in California evacuated because of fire, and over 84000 people. That was a couple of hours ago, and may exceed that figure by thousands by now.

In Louisiana, over 40,000 homes have been damaged by floods, and more being flooded right now. 30,000 people requiring rescue, far more than that out of their homes. And more rain on the way, both for Louisiana and Texas. How many 1000 year floods have we had this year? Texas, Louisiana, Maryland, West Virginia, and I have probably left some out.

We still have nearly half the year left. And, here in the northwest, a couple of weeks forecast to be from 80 to 100+. Should we get some wind with that, we will be is very serious trouble if a fire starts.

 

[Dekster]

Being a left coaster you probably do not have a solid concept on how many people get affected when a run of the mill hurricane comes through the east coast. The number greatly exceeds your 100K mark and has for better than a century I would imagine.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The number is probably closer to 10 million considering Florida, Mind Atlantic and New york area. But when sandy's do happen = people are watching.

 

[Dekster]

The number is probably closer to 10 million considering Florida, Mind Atlantic and New york area. But when sandy's do happen = people are watching.

Probably higher since a lot of these cross Florida and then turn north through the gulf coast states and dump rain up and maintain hurricane 1 gusts up into in the midatlantic/blue ridge areas. They just don't do as much camera-ready damage. Fallen trees, power outages, localized short-lived tornadoes and the like with the damage scattered in pockets.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Is there a left and right handed version of CO2: one for fires the other for floods? "Quick! Turn on the Weather Channel!" is not a scientific theory

 

[SSDD]

National Interagency Fire Center

And fires are down 80% over the past eighty years.

And to date...there isn't the first shred of observed, measured, quantified evidence that supports the anthropogenic component of the anthropogenic climate change hypothesis...anyone who takes AGW seriously at this point is an idiot....billions upon billions upon billions down the drain and still not the first shred of observed, measured, quantified evidence to support the hypothesis.

 

[Old Rocks]

August 18, 2016

Ten new large fires were reported yesterday in six states. Several fires in California burned actively with the Bluecut and Chimney fires burning thousands of acres. More than 16,000 firefighters and support personnel are assigned to wildfires across the nation.

Two MAFFS airtankers from the from the 153rd Airlift Wing and the 302nd Airlift Wing are providing support to firefighters in the Great Basin. An airtanker group from British Columbia is supporting wildland fire operations in Montana.

Weather: Widely scattered thunderstorms will form over the Interior West, mainly over the mountains but also over the northern Great Basin. Scattered rain and thunderstorms, heavy at times, will continue across the South from Texas to Virginia. Scattered showers and a few thunderstorms will move across the Great Lakes and New England. Temperatures will be warm across most of the country with hot weather in the desert Southwest and the Central Valley of California. Mild conditions will continue over the Midwest and New England.

Having trouble understanding the numbers between the Incident Management Situation Report (IMSR), National Fire News and the Current Large Incidents map? Click here.

Daily statistics 8/18/16Number of new large fires10States currently reporting large fires:Number of active large fires
Total number includes full suppression and resource managed fires.
Total does not include individual fires within complexes.28
Arizona (1)
California (7)
Colorado (2)
Idaho (4)
Montana (3)
Nevada (2)
Oklahoma (1)
Oregon (3)
Wyoming (5)

Acres from active fires339,261Fires contained4Year-to-date statistics2016 (1/1/16 - 8/17/16)Fires: 38,010Acres: 3,954,8662015 (1/1/15 - 8/17/15)Fires: 41,194Acres: 7,163,2482014 (1/1/14 - 8/17/14)Fires: 36,829Acres: 2,591,9412013 (1/1/13 - 8/17/13)Fires: 31,394Acres: 3,255,2142012 (1/1/12 - 8/17/12)Fires: 44,392Acres: 6,656,0532011 (1/1/11 - 8/17/11)Fires: 49,068Acres: 6,534,8022010 (1/1/10 - 8/17/10)Fires: 43,689Acres: 2,208,6712009 (1/1/09 - 8/17/09)Fires: 61,741Acres: 5,087,9162008 (1/1/08 - 8/17/08)Fires: 57,942Acres: 4,297,0782007 (1/1/07 - 8/17/07)Fires: 61,959Acres: 6,213,1602006 (1/1/06 - 8/17/06)Fires: 76,701Acres: 6,558,774Annual average prior 10 years2006-2015Fires: 50,151Acres: 4,978,027

National Interagency Fire Center
Where did your chart come from? Above is what I get at your link.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

CO2 is combustible?

Who knew??

 

[Crick]

Have you noticed that when someone presents incontrovertible data that refutes your contentions, your most frequent response is a bad joke. Next you will ignore the topic for a few days. Then you will make your same claims again as if the refuting information had never been presented.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Have you noticed agw as a "theory" just recaps the top weather story?

Flood? Cuz global warming
Fires? Yeah, global warming too... don't ask, just agree

 

[Crick]

Have you noticed agw as a "theory" just recaps the top weather story?

No, I haven't

Flood? Cuz global warming

Global warming can cause increased precipitation in given regions. That's been a central prediction for decades now. Did it not occur to you that increased precipitation might lead to increased incidence of flooding?

Fires? Yeah, global warming too... don't ask, just agree

Some regions will experience droughts. Droughts bring increased chance of wildfires.

Tricky stuff.

 

[bodecea]

Being a left coaster you probably do not have a solid concept on how many people get affected when a run of the mill hurricane comes through the east coast. The number greatly exceeds your 100K mark and has for better than a century I would imagine.

What hurricane is this you are referring to?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Have you noticed agw as a "theory" just recaps the top weather story?

No, I haven't

Flood? Cuz global warming

Global warming can cause increased precipitation in given regions. That's been a central prediction for decades now. Did it not occur to you that increased precipitation might lead to increased incidence of flooding?

Fires? Yeah, global warming too... don't ask, just agree

Some regions will experience droughts. Droughts bring increased chance of wildfires.

Tricky stuff.

No, it isn't tricky.

Just turn on the Weather Channel and say, "see that? Global warming!"

That's real science

 

[Moonglow]

Is there a left and right handed version of CO2: one for fires the other for floods? "Quick! Turn on the Weather Channel!" is not a scientific theory

it gives me foot odor problems...

 

[Tresha91203]

It is not a 1000 year flood here in Louisiana. 50 year maybe. I've seen this in my 47 years. It is not uncommon for coffins to float here, after all. We have a LOT of bayou and rivers all connected. It can downpour 2 States up the Mississippi and this will happen.

 

[SSDD]

Have you noticed that when someone presents incontrovertible data that refutes your contentions, your most frequent response is a bad joke. Next you will ignore the topic for a few days. Then you will make your same claims again as if the refuting information had never been presented.

Your tactic precisely....

 

[CrusaderFrank]

ZOMG

Last week in CA it was 75, today it's 100! Global warming!! 25 degrees IN A WEEK! Deniers!

 

[Dekster]

ZOMG

Last week in CA it was 75, today it's 100! Global warming!! 25 degrees IN A WEEK! Deniers!

Turn on the dehumidifier.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

ZOMG

Last week in CA it was 75, today it's 100! Global warming!! 25 degrees IN A WEEK! Deniers!

Turn on the dehumidifier.

Unless we cut back CO2 at this rate it will be 200F by Labor Day. DENIERS!!

 

[Dekster]

ZOMG

Last week in CA it was 75, today it's 100! Global warming!! 25 degrees IN A WEEK! Deniers!

Turn on the dehumidifier.

Unless we cut back CO2 at this rate it will be 200F by Labor Day. DENIERS!!

From your lips to God's ears. Erasing the left coast is the one upside to global warming