🇩🇪 Germany should take over the historically American role of NATO Europe commander, D. Trump’s envoy

[Litwin]

Interesting development. Are you with D. Trump on this?

 

[DennisPTate]

Interesting development. Are you with D. Trump on this?

A powerful case was made by author Annie Jacobssen that Germany already has taken over the USA Military and Industrial Complex beginning in 1945 with "Operation Paperclip."

[Annie Jacobssen] :

Operation Paperclip was a secret United States intelligence program in which more than 1,600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians were taken from former Nazi Germany to the US for government employment after the end of World War II in Europe, between 1945 and 1959; several were confirmed to be former members of the Nazi Party, including the SS or the SA.

The effort began in earnest in 1945, as the Allies advanced into Germany and discovered a wealth of scientific talent and advanced research that had contributed to Germany's wartime technological advancements. The US Joint Chiefs of Staff officially established Operation Overcast (operations "Overcast" and "Paperclip" were related, and the terms are often used interchangeably) on July 20, 1945, with the dual aims of leveraging German expertise for the ongoing war effort against Japan and to bolster US postwar military research. The operation, conducted by the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (JIOA), was largely actioned by special agents of the US Army's Counterintelligence Corps (CIC). Many selected scientists were involved in the Nazi rocket program, aviation, or chemical/biological warfare. The Soviet Union in the following year conducted a similar program, called Operation Osoaviakhim, that emphasized many of the same fields of research.

Operation Paperclip - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Litwin]

A powerful case was made by author Annie Jacobssen that Germany already has taken over the USA Military and Industrial Complex beginning in 1945 with "Operation Paperclip."

I guess, (communist ?) Annie Jacobssen sucked it off from a NKVD officer dick ...


40s reality :

Post in thread 'Sralin sent KGB agents to Hollywood to kill J. Wayne because of his anti-communist beliefs'

Jul 26, 2025

Maybe

I tend to believe it was complacency and victory disease.

No one took any threat seriously after WWII we thought we were untouchable

The only problem with Senator Joe McCarthy’s investigation was that it didn’t go far enough...

My mother worked for the FBI as a stenographer in the late 1940's to the early 1950's. One afternoon, when I was still a "hippie" of sorts, we were discussing Senator McCarthy, She looked me straight in the eye and said. "McCarthy was right!" She would not go into details....

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[DennisPTate]

I guess, (communist ?) Annie Jacobssen sucked it off from a NKVD officer dick ...


40s reality :

Post in thread 'Sralin sent KGB agents to Hollywood to kill J. Wayne because of his anti-communist beliefs'

Jul 26, 2025

Maybe

I tend to believe it was complacency and victory disease.

No one took any threat seriously after WWII we thought we were untouchable

The only problem with Senator Joe McCarthy’s investigation was that it didn’t go far enough...

My mother worked for the FBI as a stenographer in the late 1940's to the early 1950's. One afternoon, when I was still a "hippie" of sorts, we were discussing Senator McCarthy, She looked me straight in the eye and said. "McCarthy was right!" She would not go into details....

• Litwin

I have to admit that this is a very interesting theory that Communists have been up against Nazi's, in the USA, since 1945.

I have to admit that that would explain quite a bit about what has been going on.

CIA agents went to Disney and eventually got Disney cartoonists to make fun of the UFO phenomena so that what really happened at Roswell could be hidden.

Would you like to get into evidence for that here, or would you prefer to make that into a separate discussions?

 

[Litwin]

Communists have been up against Nazi's, in the USA

no, Communists have been together with Nazi's, all over the world in 20-40s

Stalins NKVD delivered The Jews into Hitlers Gestapo´s hands AND cooperated even before Stalin - Hitler Pact.

Thread 'Nazis and Communists Unite Against Democratic Weimar Germany – Rise of Hitler'

Apr 10, 2025

Nazis and Communists tried to sabotage parliament of Democratic Weimar Germany —but their walkout backfired spectacularly...

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[DennisPTate]

no, Communists have been together with Nazi's, all over the world in 20-40s

Stalins NKVD delivered The Jews into Hitlers Gestapo´s hands AND cooperated even before Stalin - Hitler Pact.

Thread 'Nazis and Communists Unite Against Democratic Weimar Germany – Rise of Hitler'

Apr 10, 2025

Nazis and Communists tried to sabotage parliament of Democratic Weimar Germany —but their walkout backfired spectacularly...

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True, I must agree with you that Communists have indeed been working TOGETHER with Nazis's.

And yes they have been doing this all over the world.

In a August 24, 2006 article entitled, "Russian Footprints", Ion Mihai Pacepa writes:

By the end of the 1960s, the KGB was deeply involved in mass terrorism against Jews, carried out by various Palestinian client organizations. Here are some terrorist actions for which the KGB took credit while I was still in Romania: November 1969, armed attack on the El Al office in Athens, leaving 1 dead and 14 wounded; May 30, 1972, Ben Gurion Airport attack, leaving 22 dead and 76 wounded; December 1974, Tel Aviv movie theater bomb, leaving 2 dead and 66 wounded; March 1975, attack on a Tel Aviv hotel, leaving 25 dead and 6 wounded; May 1975, Jerusalem bomb, leaving 1 dead and 3 wounded; July 4, 1975, bomb in Zion Square, Jerusalem, leaving 15 dead and 62 wounded; April 1978, Brussels airport attack, leaving 12 wounded; May 1978, attack on an El Al plane in Paris, leaving 12 wounded. ... In 1972, the Kremlin decided to turn the whole Islamic world against Israel and the U.S. As KGB chairman Yury Andropov told me, a billion adversaries could inflict far greater damage on America than could a few millions. We needed to instill a Nazi-style hatred for the Jews throughout the Islamic world, and to turn this weapon of the emotions into a terrorist bloodbath against Israel and its main supporter, the United States. No one within the American/Zionist sphere of influence should any longer feel safe.

Unconverted Russia and its influence on the Mideast

Osama bin Laden's deputy issued a worldwide call today for Muslims to rise up in holy war against Israel and join the fighting in Lebanon and Gaza, until Islam reigns from "Spain to Iraq". Ayman al-Zawahiri warned that al-Qaida would not stand "idly by, humiliated", as Israeli "shells burn our...

www.tldm.org

 

[ColonelAngus]

But, HITLER.

 

[Zebra]

A powerful case was made by author Annie Jacobssen that Germany already has taken over the USA Military and Industrial Complex beginning in 1945 with "Operation Paperclip."

both Americans and Russians took German scientists.

 

[DennisPTate]

both Americans and Russians took German scientists.

You are absolutely correct!

Which gives Russian scientists and American scientists at least some common ground.

You have been here on USMB a lot longer than me. Is it considered OK here to link to an obviously related discussion?

Thread 'Are ordinary Palestinians being used as "sacrificial pawns" by Russia?'

Nov 20, 2025

Are ordinary Palestinians being used to play the role of "sacrificial pawns" by powerful people who were working out of Russia?

Are ordinary Palestinians working to assist Atheists in Russia win against Jews in Israel and against Christians in America?

Isn't this sort of thing somewhat against many Sura's in the Koran?

In a August 24, 2006 article entitled, "Russian Footprints", Ion Mihai Pacepa writes:

By the end of the 1960s, the KGB was deeply involved in mass terrorism against Jews, carried out by various Palestinian client organizations. Here are some terrorist...

• DennisPTate
• Replies: 15
• Forum: Israel and Palestine

 

[Zebra]

You are absolutely correct!

Which gives Russian scientists and American scientists at least some common ground.

You have been here on USMB a lot longer than me. Is it considered OK here to link to an obviously related discussion?

Thread 'Are ordinary Palestinians being used as "sacrificial pawns" by Russia?'

Nov 20, 2025

Are ordinary Palestinians being used to play the role of "sacrificial pawns" by powerful people who were working out of Russia?

Are ordinary Palestinians working to assist Atheists in Russia win against Jews in Israel and against Christians in America?

Isn't this sort of thing somewhat against many Sura's in the Koran?

In a August 24, 2006 article entitled, "Russian Footprints", Ion Mihai Pacepa writes:

By the end of the 1960s, the KGB was deeply involved in mass terrorism against Jews, carried out by various Palestinian client organizations. Here are some terrorist...

• DennisPTate
• Replies: 15
• Forum: Israel and Palestine

why not?

 

[Litwin]

True, I must agree with you that Communists have indeed been working TOGETHER with Nazis's.

And yes they have been doing this all over the world.

85 years ago , Hitler and Stalin joined forces to divide and subjugate Europe. The Nazi-Bolshevik Pact set the stage for the outbreak of WWII just days later.

Molotov :

Stalin´s Torch-men-Order N 0428

Thread 'what do you think about Stalin´s Torch-men-Order N 0428? Stalin genocide Belarusians, Balts, Ukrainians, Moldovans order'

Apr 13, 2021

what do you think about Stalin´s Torch-men-Order N 0428?

in order to understand extreme brutality of WW2 in Belarus, and Belarusians who fought Muscovite occupiers (not just in 1941-45, but from 1798 to 1991) we have to start with reading stalin´s Torch-men-Order N 0428 "
stalin´s Torch-men-Order N 0428 "Headquarters of the Supreme Command Order dated November 17, 1941 No. 428
on the creation of special teams for the destruction and burning of settlements in the rear of the Nazi troops
Moscow
The experience of the last month of the war showed that the German army is poorly...

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[DennisPTate]

85 years ago , Hitler and Stalin joined forces to divide and subjugate Europe. The Nazi-Bolshevik Pact set the stage for the outbreak of WWII just days later.

Molotov :

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Stalin´s Torch-men-Order N 0428

Thread 'what do you think about Stalin´s Torch-men-Order N 0428? Stalin genocide Belarusians, Balts, Ukrainians, Moldovans order'

Apr 13, 2021

what do you think about Stalin´s Torch-men-Order N 0428?

in order to understand extreme brutality of WW2 in Belarus, and Belarusians who fought Muscovite occupiers (not just in 1941-45, but from 1798 to 1991) we have to start with reading stalin´s Torch-men-Order N 0428 "
stalin´s Torch-men-Order N 0428 "Headquarters of the Supreme Command Order dated November 17, 1941 No. 428
on the creation of special teams for the destruction and burning of settlements in the rear of the Nazi troops
Moscow
The experience of the last month of the war showed that the German army is poorly...

• Litwin

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Is my memory failing me in thinking that not too long after this Adolf Hitler betrayed Stalin and began a rumour that Soviet Generals were plotting against Stalin. Hitler knew that Stalin was paranoid so Stalin soon set about torturing his Generals to death to find out about that fake "Conspiracy to overthrow Stalin."

The result was a Soviet army terribly lacking in trained leadership by the time that Hitler ordered his armies to invade Russia.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

What a thought. Europe looking after themselves.

 

[Litwin]

both Americans and Russians took German scientists.

Bolshevik imperialists turned them into the slaves.

have you watched this film ?

As Far as My Feet Will Carry Me (2001)​

 

[DennisPTate]

What a thought. Europe looking after themselves.

Here is another way of looking at this .....
Imagine Germany re-armed, re-militarized, with vastly superior military hardware in comparison to Russia.

 

[Litwin]

But, HITLER.

the Bolshevik pedophile tsar was much worse than hitler.

Stalin and his lover aged 13

Serov reported back to Khrushchev that, amazingly, the entire story of Stalin's affair with a 13-year-old was true. Khrushchev showed it to the Politburo (including Stalin's long-serving henchman Molotov), who all signed it and then filed it in the deepest recesses of the archives where it has remained until now.
I was also able to find in the archives the memoirs of the girl herself, who was called Lidia. She wrote them during Stalin's reign, which is why they make no mention of any sex or the children she had by Stalin - that would have been suicidal.
Using all these and other archive documents, I constructed an astonishing picture of an unknown Stalin - one that painted him as a promiscuous and faithless serial seducer and libertine.
The picture was confirmed by the reminiscences of villagers who lived in the isolated hamlet that was the 13-year-old girl's home in Siberia.

Thread 'Czechia is banning the promotion of communist ideology. Would you support such a law in your country?'

Nov 20, 2025

100% respect to Czechia. Still, Would you support such a law in your country?


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[cnm]

Interesting development. Are you with D. Trump on this?

Maybe then NATO soldiers wouldn't have died in Afghanistan for an ungrateful USA.

 

[Litwin]

Imagine Germany re-armed, re-militarized, with vastly superior military hardware in comparison to Russia.

+ democratic, with many many allies and real friends , Moscow empire has no friends, only the deadly enemies...

Thread '🇨🇳 🇷🇺FALSE ALLIANCES, George Friedman on Moscow , commie Han-China empires and the Illusion of Alliance'

Sep 11, 2025

FALSE ALLIANCES , +1, Realism !! I appreciate that. Nothing surprising, commie han-China will eventually go with force against Moscow empire in Outer Manchuria (Far East) . Aim would be primarily lake Baikal, as drinkable water sources are one of biggest things that Han-China seeks. ALWAYS Remember , commie Han-China’s claims to Moscow’s Far East (Outer Manchuria and much more ) are fact-based and indisputable.

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[cnm]

What a thought. Europe looking after themselves.

As opposed to the US wanting to restrict nuclear arms, so offering to stand in until it was time to betray Europe.

France knew better.

 

[Litwin]