Fire erupts at Chevron SoCal refinery

[1srelluc]

Just what CA needed.....$6.00 gas by the weekend is the guess.

 

[JGalt]

How could that have possibly happened? I'm at a loss here, things like this don't just "happen." There has to be some reason why this occurred.

Let me think for a bit, there must be a reasonable explanation.

 

[1srelluc]

I think that was the one that was going to shut down anyway.

 

[JGalt]

I think that was the one that was going to shut down anyway.

It was built in 1911, and the state of California has so many environmental regulations, they couldn't upgrade the refinery. In fact, the Chevron CEO was recently saying that they may close their last two refineries in California because it's impossible to do business there.

If this shit keeps up, I might have to trade my Nissan for one of those Fred Flintstone cars.

 

[Dekster]

How could that have possibly happened? I'm at a loss here, things like this don't just "happen." There has to be some reason why this occurred.

Let me think for a bit, there must be a reasonable explanation.

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I agree---the fat white guy was probably making another grilled cheese and shit went sideways.

 

[Invisibleflash]

How could that have possibly happened? I'm at a loss here, things like this don't just "happen." There has to be some reason why this occurred.

Let me think for a bit, there must be a reasonable explanation.

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[elektra]

Hopefully Trump steps in we need new refineries

 

[HikerGuy83]

Hopefully Trump steps in we need new refineries

You'll never get anyone to invest in one.

It takes to long to get the equipment and construction costs are simply stupid.

 

[elektra]

You'll never get anyone to invest in one.

It takes to long to get the equipment and construction costs are simply stupid.

Sure, that is why trump needs to step in

 

[HikerGuy83]

Just what CA needed.....$6.00 gas by the weekend is the guess.

290,000 BPD !!!

I've been there on several occasions.

Thats a lot of fuel.....12,200,000 gallons per day of transportation fuel (not assuming the typical 8 to 12% volume swell index).

 

[HikerGuy83]

Sure, that is why trump needs to step in

projections are for reduced demand in the long term as we move towards more "green" stuff.

This is a monster refinery and Richmond is even bigger.

If they both go down.....holy crap.

They'll be importing from India.

 

[HikerGuy83]

There are two flares going off. Those are controlled burns. Those are huge amounts of gas and liquid being burned.

 

[elektra]

projections are for reduced demand in the long term as we move towards more "green" stuff.

This is a monster refinery and Richmond is even bigger.

If they both go down.....holy crap.

They'll be importing from India.

Who gives you projections, they are 100% wrong

 

[HikerGuy83]

Who gives you projections, they are 100% wrong

I work in the industry.

And no they are not.

Our capital spending is highly affected by what are perceived to be future demands.

How is it that we are converting high volume refineries into renewable diesel units (only making about 10% of what was made before) in this country. What do they not see that you seem to think you do see.

How many new refineries are being constructed or major expansion projects being undertaken?

 

[elektra]

I work in the industry.

And no they are not.

Our capital spending is highly affected by what are perceived to be future demands.

How is it that we are converting high volume refineries into renewable diesel units (only making about 10% of what was made before) in this country. What do they not see that you seem to think you do see.

How many new refineries are being constructed or major expansion projects being undertaken?

Where exactly do you work, the projections are 100% wrong

All across the world green energy has failed

The biggest glaring error in your feelings you expressed is we dont use oil and gas to produce electricity.

Green energy produces almost no electricity

Start at the top, you attempted to qualify your remarks by making the claim that your job gave you insight.

What is your job

 

[AZrailwhale]

How could that have possibly happened? I'm at a loss here, things like this don't just "happen." There has to be some reason why this occurred.

Let me think for a bit, there must be a reasonable explanation.

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It’s more likely a consequence of decades of running California’s refineries at over a hundred percent capacity. That was accomplished by cutting maintenance intervals.

 

[AZrailwhale]

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Where is IM2? “The world wonders”.

 

[toobfreak]

How could that have possibly happened? I'm at a loss here, things like this don't just "happen." There has to be some reason why this occurred.

One refinery fire in California - figures it would be in California!

Two refinery fires in California - smells of sabotage and sedition.

 

[leftwinger]

$10sof millions isolated island homes and Refineries don't just burst into flames on the same day after standing for decades. Inspected, maintained and serviced often at a high proffesional level with that sort of value..

Marxist puke are ramping up. Surprisingly the mental defects could pull it off?

Yet Stain and mushy headed board middlers dance around what is going on. Suddenly everything is a meth lab? You dumb Oxyen. So many dumb bozo make it really hard to read the nonsense in here.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Where exactly do you work, the projections are 100% wrong

I work in the oil refining industry.

We recently built a renewable diesel unit. It's a massive undertaking for just 9,000 BPD of diesel fuel. Totally stupid.

All across the world green energy has failed

It's not viable given the alternatives.

But you can't deny that refineries have shut down and been converted to renewable diesel units.

And new units are being constructed.

Bakersfield Renewable Fuels just started a 15,000 BPD unit.

Phillips 66 Converts Oil Refinery to Produce Only Renewable Fuel - ESG Today

Energy products manufacturer Phillips 66 today announced that it has converted its San Francisco oil refinery in Rodeo, California to process only renewable feedstocks, and is now producing approximately 30,000 barrels per day of renewable diesel, with the commercial-scale production marking a...

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Another unit was shutdown in Martinez CA for the same purpose. These are large refineries that will now only produce a fraction of the output. This is all based on the fact that gasoline demand has flattened and is falling slightly. Despite a growing population.

U.S. Demand for Gasoline Faces Long-Term Structural Problem: Plunging Per-Capita Consumption | Wolf Street

The biggest glaring error in your feelings you expressed is we dont use oil and gas to produce electricity.

You have me confused with someone else. I never said that. That would be stupid. Coal fired plants are being converted to natural gas on a regular basis.

Green energy produces almost no electricity

My comments are restricted to liquid motor fuel production.

Start at the top, you attempted to qualify your remarks by making the claim that your job gave you insight.

I work as a process engineer in an oil refinery.

I routinely attend strategy and production projection meetings.

Who are you to ask me what my job is.

What is your job?