Federal appeals court rules Trump administration can't end birthright citizenship

[StatesRightsForever]

More judges taking bribes from mexico but it won't matter. The SC will say the 14A actually BANS straight birthright citizenship. The pertinent clause is "subject to the jurisdiction thereof."​

oct 3 2025 BOSTON (AP) — A federal appeals court in Boston ruled on Friday that the Trump administration cannot withhold citizenship from children born to people in the country illegally or temporarily, adding to the mounting legal setbacks for the president’s birthright order.

A three-judge panel of the 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals became the fifth federal court since June to either issue or uphold orders blocking the president’s birthright order. The court concluded that the plaintiffs are likely to succeed on their claims that the children described in the order are entitled to birthright citizenship under the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment.

MSN

 

[1srelluc]

Meh, this was always going to be a SCOTUS decision.

 

[Concerned American]

Meh, this was always going to be a SCOTUS decision.

Seems we have a variety of federal laws that prohibit the benefiting from illegal actions. What is the first word in "Illegal Immigrant"?

 

[my2¢]

If they're not subject to our jurisdiction, then our government judicial system has no standing to do anything about them.

Darrell Brooks in his trial claiming he wasn't under Wisconsin's jurisdiction.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

If they're not subject to our jurisdiction, then our government judicial system has no standing to do anything about them.

Darrell Brooks in his trial claiming he wasn't under Wisconsin's jurisdiction.
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HAHAHAHA. Hey einstein. By "jurisdiction" the 14A means political jurisdiction not legal jurisdiction. Everybody in america is subject to our legal jurisdiction obviously. Foreigners can't invade america and rob banks and say "Your laws don't apply to me." THINK

 

[Zincwarrior]

More judges taking bribes from mexico but it won't matter. The SC will say the 14A actually BANS straight birthright citizenship. The pertinent clause is "subject to the jurisdiction thereof."​

MSN

Well duh.

 

[my2¢]

HAHAHAHA. Hey einstein. By "jurisdiction" the 14A means political jurisdiction not legal jurisdiction. Everybody in america is subject to our legal jurisdiction obviously. Foreigners can't invade america and rob banks and say "Your laws don't apply to me." THINK

Political jurisdiction grants authority of a government to apply its laws within its territory. Think of how diplomatic immunity works and how their children are exception to birthright citizenship.

Diplomatic immunity aside, for sure our laws apply to foreigners. I never implied they didn't. According to your interpretation, these children born here of illegal foreigners should be granted a lifetime get out of jail free card since they're not under our jurisdiction.

 

[progressive hunter]

If they're not subject to our jurisdiction, then our government judicial system has no standing to do anything about them.

Darrell Brooks in his trial claiming he wasn't under Wisconsin's jurisdiction.
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subject to our laws is not the same as subject to our jurisdiction,,

all foreigners still have the protection of their home countries,, so none of them are subject to our jurisdiction,,

 

[westwall]

If they're not subject to our jurisdiction, then our government judicial system has no standing to do anything about them.

Darrell Brooks in his trial claiming he wasn't under Wisconsin's jurisdiction.
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If they commit a crime in this country, then yes, we have jurisdiction over them.

And lo and behold, they broke a law coming here ILLEGALLY.

Amazing....

 

[Care4all]

HAHAHAHA. Hey einstein. By "jurisdiction" the 14A means political jurisdiction not legal jurisdiction. Everybody in america is subject to our legal jurisdiction obviously. Foreigners can't invade america and rob banks and say "Your laws don't apply to me." THINK

And that is what under our jurisdiction actually means under the law, which is why everyone born on our soil, with few exceptions, are born citizens at birth.

Under our jurisdiction, means under our laws.

 

[TemplarKormac]

And that is what under our jurisdiction actually means under the law, which is why everyone born on our soil, with few exceptions, are born citizens at birth.

Under our jurisdiction, means under our laws.

Jus soli (by land) is an archaic interpretation of our citizenship laws. Jus sanguinis (by blood) would make more sense. It would immediately tighten our nationalization rules to prevent abuse of our immigration laws.

 

[22lcidw]

And that is what under our jurisdiction actually means under the law, which is why everyone born on our soil, with few exceptions, are born citizens at birth.

Under our jurisdiction, means under our laws.

What we are really arguing over is giving taxpayer benefits, checks, education, etc. to those involved. This is a major issue. And it costs more and more money.

 

[my2¢]

If they commit a crime in this country, then yes, we have jurisdiction over them.

And lo and behold, they broke a law coming here ILLEGALLY.

Amazing....

Those born in this country did not enter the country illegally.

 

[progressive hunter]

And that is what under our jurisdiction actually means under the law, which is why everyone born on our soil, with few exceptions, are born citizens at birth.

Under our jurisdiction, means under our laws.

no its not,, they still are under the protection of their home country,, that is their jurisdiction,,

if they meant under our laws they would have said that,, two different words with two different meanings,,

 

[my2¢]

subject to our laws is not the same as subject to our jurisdiction,,

all foreigners still have the protection of their home countries,, so none of them are subject to our jurisdiction,,

Subject to our laws is the same as subject to our jurisdiction.
To be "subject to jurisdiction" means that a person, entity, or thing is under the authority and control of a particular legal authority, such as a court or government. This means the entity is bound by the laws of that jurisdiction and can be legally compelled to appear in court, obey decisions, or face sanctions for violating those laws.

"all foreigners still have the protection of their home countries," you say.
But as the Supreme Court ruled in United States v. Kim Ark decided, children born here are citizens not foreigners.

 

[citygator]

You guys are reaching for straws trying to make up new concepts. Political jurisdiction? I will be laughing about that all hike long shortly. Political jurisdiction! Lol. Morons.

 

[progressive hunter]

Subject to our laws is the same as subject to our jurisdiction.
To be "subject to jurisdiction" means that a person, entity, or thing is under the authority and control of a particular legal authority, such as a court or government. This means the entity is bound by the laws of that jurisdiction and can be legally compelled to appear in court, obey decisions, or face sanctions for violating those laws.

"all foreigners still have the protection of their home countries," you say.
But as the Supreme Court ruled in United States v. Kim Ark decided, children born here are citizens not foreigners.

their parents are foreigners so their children are also foreigners and both are under the protection/jurisdiction of their home country just like if an american was in a foreign country,,,,,,

 

[westwall]

Those born in this country did not enter the country illegally.

Their parents did. Fruit of the poison tree.

 

[midcan5]

The Robert's court belongs in some banana republic given their un-American attitudes and overall stupidity. Irony is if American freedoms etc don't continue neither will they.

Taking stock of the Roberts court at 20—and the shadowy forces that built it

"Roberts will go down in history as the most destructive chief justice."

www.motherjones.com

 

[Unkotare]

Their parents did. Fruit of the poison tree.

The sins of the father...?