Federal agents open fire on a truck in LA

[pknopp]

I think we need more information about that

We dont know the circumstances leading up to ICE busting out his window

But whether ICE was right or wrong the driver must comply and argue about it later in court if necessary

One does not have to comply to unlawful, unconstitutional demands.

 

[pknopp]

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Yes, ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) agents can make traffic stops, but only under specific circumstances. They generally need a warrant to take someone into custody, but can stop a vehicle if they have "reasonable suspicion" that someone inside is in the U.S. illegally

And being brown is not a reasonable suspicion.

 

[SweetTea]

ICE does not have the authority to make traffic stops

Wrong. They do have the authority.

 

[justoffal]

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Yes, ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) agents can make traffic stops, but only under specific circumstances. They generally need a warrant to take someone into custody, but can stop a vehicle if they have "reasonable suspicion" that someone inside is in the U.S. illegally

There's another problem with the truck drivers.
It seems that a greater and greater percentage do not have CDLs..... No I don't know whether or not ice can enforce that but at this point they should be given that authority.

 

[SweetTea]

And being brown is not a reasonable suspicion.

If a perp is identified as being a white male, can cops stop white males in an attempt to find the suspect? Would they fit the profile? Race is always used as an identifying factor when suspects are described. It is kind of common sense, isn’t it?

 

[1srelluc]

ICE does not have the authority to make traffic stops

LOL....Where did you get that at?

Yes, ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement) can make traffic stops, but there are specific legal limitations and requirements that govern their actions.

ICE's Authority to Make Traffic Stops​

ICE has the authority to conduct vehicle stops under certain circumstances, primarily related to immigration enforcement. However, this authority is not absolute and is subject to legal scrutiny and regulations.
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Usually what ICE does is bring along a BP agent. They have broader traffic stop/check capabilities than ICE does.....There's more than one way to skin the illegal cat.

In more friendly jurisdictions they bring along someone from the SD or PD depending on the jurisdiction.

 

[Blaster]

This entirely to blame of the democrats, the news media, and the driver of the truck

I wonder if he has insurance to cover the damage to his truck?

I love it.

 

[LeftofLeft]

The video used by the tv station has been edited to fit an agenda. I’d like to see the full video. Even with the full video, it looks like the carload was not cooperating.

 

[justoffal]

Its a public street

ICE has the authority

You have to understand it's up to the white man in this country to stand and be victimized and shut up. The new rule is that illegal aliens and protected minorities can break any law they choose and no one has a right to say anything about it, God forbid. The worst and unimaginable offense is self-defense. Anyone raising a hand to defend themselves against and attacking thug in their eyes is immediately the lowest of all humans.

This is exactly what they think and feel whether they want to admit it or not.

There is no way to negotiate with that so you don't even try.

 

[pknopp]

If a perp is identified as being a white male, can cops stop white males in an attempt to find the suspect?

Only if reasonable. If described as a 60 year old 5 foot 4 male, they cant stop a 25 year old 6 foot 3 male and ask for identification.

But in that case there has been justification. Driving while brown is not.

Would they fit the profile? Race is always used as an identifying factor when suspects are described. It is kind of common sense, isn’t it?

Suspected of what here?

 

[Zincwarrior]

If a perp is identified as being a white male, can cops stop white males in an attempt to find the suspect? Would they fit the profile? Race is always used as an identifying factor when suspects are described. It is kind of common sense, isn’t it?

ICE are not police. They don't go after 'perps.'

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Classic example of fake news, stirring up shit.

It is "spun news" - horribly irresponsible and only increases these occurrences, as well as increases the chance of federal activity in a given area.
This is entirely the fault of the idiot moron refusing to cooperate - and then the monumentally suicidal stupidity of trying to drive away when his car was surrounded by people ON FOOT. Which is why the officer fired at him.
All of this came about because of idiotic leftist dumbassery of "defund the police" and anarchist mentality.

 

[Independent thinker]

This entirely to blame of the democrats, the news media, and the driver of the truck

I wonder if he has insurance to cover the damage to his truck?

They got what they deserved. Actually, they deserved more than what they got.

 

[westwall]

BTW, ICE was not attempting to arrest the driver as Care4all claims, but merely confirm his idenity

Yeah, Care, and the truth, haven't met each other in a long time.

 

[Lesh]

LOL....Where did you get that at?

Yes, ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement) can make traffic stops, but there are specific legal limitations and requirements that govern their actions.

ICE's Authority to Make Traffic Stops​

ICE has the authority to conduct vehicle stops under certain circumstances, primarily related to immigration enforcement. However, this authority is not absolute and is subject to legal scrutiny and regulations.
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=59f0...3RvcC12ZWhpY2xlcy1hbmQtbWFrZS1hcnJlc3Rz&ntb=1
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=59f0...3RvcC12ZWhpY2xlcy1hbmQtbWFrZS1hcnJlc3Rz&ntb=1
Usually what ICE does is bring along a BP agent. They have broader traffic stop/check capabilities than ICE does.....There's more than one way to skin the illegal cat.

In more friendly jurisdictions they bring along someone from the SD or PD depending on the jurisdiction.

Under certain circumstances. Like suspicion that the driver is an illegal.

Being brown does not meet that standard

 

[Lesh]

If a perp is identified as being a white male, can cops stop white males in an attempt to find the suspect? Would they fit the profile? Race is always used as an identifying factor when suspects are described. It is kind of common sense, isn’t it?

Its also not legal

 

[Zincwarrior]

Under certain circumstances. Like suspicion that the driver is an illegal.

Being brown does not meet that standard

Trump admin is arguing in court it does.

 

[Mac-7]

Must comply with WHO?

Unidentified masked men smashing in your windows?

Ok, libs are free to roll the dice and gamble that the men confronting them are something other than police officers

But when you are wrong as you will be 99.99% of the time you are going to jail on multiple felony charges beginning with resisting arrest

If you live to tell about it dont bother crying to us about what happened to you

 

[Mac-7]

One does not have to comply to unlawful, unconstitutional demands.

Dont be a knucklehead and die unnecessarily

But you can if that is your wish

Either way its nothing to me

 

[Lesh]

Dont be a knucklehead and die unnecessarily

But you can if that is your wish

Either way its nothing to me

Amazing that you have no problem with the government killing people like this