FDR

Like I said facism is left wing, started by socialist Mussolini and "progressed" even further through the National Socialist Party........time for a new con democrats.
Gott Damm you are dumm.

Fascism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Founder of facism..
Benito Mussolini - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In 1912 Mussolini was the leading member of the National Directorate of the Italian Socialist Party (PSI).[5] Prior to 1914 he was a keen supporter of the Socialist International, starting the series of meetings in Switzerland[6] that organised the communist revolutions and insurrections that swept through Europe from 1917. Mussolini was expelled from the PSI due to his opposition to the party's stance on neutrality in World War I. Mussolini denounced the PSI, and later founded the fascist movement.

And you ignored my articles, FDR, Hitler, and Mussolini all had a mutual admiration society. Surely you don't think of FDR as right wing?
 
Like I said facism is left wing, started by socialist Mussolini and "progressed" even further through the National Socialist Party........time for a new con democrats.
Gott Damm you are dumm.

Fascism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

if you look at that platform of Italy's fascist party it actually sounds pretty left wing such as wanting to have a min wage. I can't think of any one on the right that supports that.


Great point, liberals don't even know what they were or any history....they just gobble up what their gaystopo teachers tell them.
 
Like I said facism is left wing, started by socialist Mussolini and "progressed" even further through the National Socialist Party........time for a new con democrats.
Gott Damm you are dumm.

Fascism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

if you look at that platform of Italy's fascist party it actually sounds pretty left wing such as wanting to have a min wage. I can't think of any one on the right that supports that.


Typical Trump-ette - open mouth insert foot or-----or are you using sarcasm or-----or are you joking or...?

D. Trump:
"The minimum wage has to go up. People are -- at least $10, but it has to go up. But I think that states -- federal -- I think that states should really call the shot. As an example, I live in New York. It's very expensive in New York. You can't buy a hot dog for the money you're talking about. You go to other states and it's not expensive at all. Now what it does is puts New York at a disadvantage if the minimum wage is up, companies move out and things, bad things happen. At the same time, people have to be taken care of. But what I'm really going to do on the minimum wage -- but it has to go up.. .. So I would like to raise it to at least $10."

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Then we have the bit about being a big government Liberal that caused the Great Depression to last several years longer in the US than it should have.


FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate

FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate

Two UCLA economists say they have figured out why the Great Depression dragged on for almost 15 years, and they blame a suspect previously thought to be beyond reproach: President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

After scrutinizing Roosevelt's record for four years, Harold L. Cole and Lee E. Ohanian conclude in a new study that New Deal policies signed into law 71 years ago thwarted economic recovery for seven long years.

"Why the Great Depression lasted so long has always been a great mystery, and because we never really knew the reason, we have always worried whether we would have another 10- to 15-year economic slump," said Ohanian, vice chair of UCLA's Department of Economics. "We found that a relapse isn't likely unless lawmakers gum up a recovery with ill-conceived stimulus policies."

In an article in the August issue of the Journal of Political Economy, Ohanian and Cole blame specific anti-competition and pro-labor measures that Roosevelt promoted and signed into law June 16, 1933.

"President Roosevelt believed that excessive competition was responsible for the Depression by reducing prices and wages, and by extension reducing employment and demand for goods and services," said Cole, also a UCLA professor of economics. "So he came up with a recovery package that would be unimaginable today, allowing businesses in every industry to collude without the threat of antitrust prosecution and workers to demand salaries about 25 percent above where they ought to have been, given market forces. The economy was poised for a beautiful recovery, but that recovery was stalled by these misguided policies."
 
So why do America's most noted historians usually place FDR in the top three presidents, except for the last rating when the 238 historians voted to place FDR as America's greatest president?
 
So why do America's most noted historians usually place FDR in the top three presidents, except for the last rating when the 238 historians voted to place FDR as America's greatest president?

Depends on who those historians are. Are any of them Liberals that like to rewrite history and give FDR credit for ending something he prolonged and that WW2 ended?

Maybe they forgot about how he imprisoned citizens of the U.S. in internment camps simply because they had Japanese heritage.
 
Then we have the bit about being a big government Liberal that caused the Great Depression to last several years longer in the US than it should have.


FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate

FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate

Two UCLA economists say they have figured out why the Great Depression dragged on for almost 15 years, and they blame a suspect previously thought to be beyond reproach: President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

After scrutinizing Roosevelt's record for four years, Harold L. Cole and Lee E. Ohanian conclude in a new study that New Deal policies signed into law 71 years ago thwarted economic recovery for seven long years.

"Why the Great Depression lasted so long has always been a great mystery, and because we never really knew the reason, we have always worried whether we would have another 10- to 15-year economic slump," said Ohanian, vice chair of UCLA's Department of Economics. "We found that a relapse isn't likely unless lawmakers gum up a recovery with ill-conceived stimulus policies."

In an article in the August issue of the Journal of Political Economy, Ohanian and Cole blame specific anti-competition and pro-labor measures that Roosevelt promoted and signed into law June 16, 1933.

"President Roosevelt believed that excessive competition was responsible for the Depression by reducing prices and wages, and by extension reducing employment and demand for goods and services," said Cole, also a UCLA professor of economics. "So he came up with a recovery package that would be unimaginable today, allowing businesses in every industry to collude without the threat of antitrust prosecution and workers to demand salaries about 25 percent above where they ought to have been, given market forces. The economy was poised for a beautiful recovery, but that recovery was stalled by these misguided policies."


Good on you, you agree that the way out of America's greatest economic disaster was public works. FDR's economic plan was on it's way to ending the Great Depression, stop and think about it, it was public works via TVA, Boulder Dam, Grand Coulee Dam, etc, that powered the industry that allowed us to build the greatest war machine the world had ever seen and-----and public works gave us a leg up on WWII by building the USS Enterprise and

USS Yorktown aircraft carriers that were crucial to the war effort and-----and public works projects made it possible for us to create lend-lease supplying Great Britain with food, commodities, vehicles, munitions, etc, and-----and public works made the Marshall Plan possible and-----and the infrastructure that was built by public works fueled America's rise to the greatest economic power in the world for 40 years after America's greatest public works project, WWII, ended then-----then inattention sent our infrastructure into such disrepair that much of our infrastructure now needs to be replaced.

Keynes was right, Wanniski, Friedman, Laffer, etc. were wrong - the proof is in the empirical puddin'.


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I meet a LOT of old Republicans today who were saved from starvation by FDR.

So FDR personally funded all those programs?
The FDR administration saw to it that all the programs the Congress passed were funded. One of the real improvements: if one was able to work, he worked. The list of highways, airports, schools, and so on, built during the New Deal is quite impressive.
 
Up is down, and down is up, in the surreal world of the revisionists.

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I meet a LOT of old Republicans today who were saved from starvation by FDR.

So FDR personally funded all those programs?
The FDR administration saw to it that all the programs the Congress passed were funded. One of the real improvements: if one was able to work, he worked. The list of highways, airports, schools, and so on, built during the New Deal is quite impressive.

That's easy when you can force the money from other people. Typical Liberal outlook.

Why don't Liberals take the if one was able to work he worked attitude today? The Liberal outlook today is if they don't want to work, we'll give them an excuse by blaming someone else then provide money to them funded by taxes we place on those we think have too much. Sad part is Liberals scratch their heads and wonder why people won't get a job.
 
Then we have the bit about being a big government Liberal that caused the Great Depression to last several years longer in the US than it should have.


FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate

FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate

Two UCLA economists say they have figured out why the Great Depression dragged on for almost 15 years, and they blame a suspect previously thought to be beyond reproach: President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

After scrutinizing Roosevelt's record for four years, Harold L. Cole and Lee E. Ohanian conclude in a new study that New Deal policies signed into law 71 years ago thwarted economic recovery for seven long years.

"Why the Great Depression lasted so long has always been a great mystery, and because we never really knew the reason, we have always worried whether we would have another 10- to 15-year economic slump," said Ohanian, vice chair of UCLA's Department of Economics. "We found that a relapse isn't likely unless lawmakers gum up a recovery with ill-conceived stimulus policies."

In an article in the August issue of the Journal of Political Economy, Ohanian and Cole blame specific anti-competition and pro-labor measures that Roosevelt promoted and signed into law June 16, 1933.

"President Roosevelt believed that excessive competition was responsible for the Depression by reducing prices and wages, and by extension reducing employment and demand for goods and services," said Cole, also a UCLA professor of economics. "So he came up with a recovery package that would be unimaginable today, allowing businesses in every industry to collude without the threat of antitrust prosecution and workers to demand salaries about 25 percent above where they ought to have been, given market forces. The economy was poised for a beautiful recovery, but that recovery was stalled by these misguided policies."


Good on you, you agree that the way out of America's greatest economic disaster was public works. FDR's economic plan was on it's way to ending the Great Depression, stop and think about it, it was public works via TVA, Boulder Dam, Grand Coulee Dam, etc, that powered the industry that allowed us to build the greatest war machine the world had ever seen and-----and public works gave us a leg up on WWII by building the USS Enterprise and

USS Yorktown aircraft carriers that were crucial to the war effort and-----and public works projects made it possible for us to create lend-lease supplying Great Britain with food, commodities, vehicles, munitions, etc, and-----and public works made the Marshall Plan possible and-----and the infrastructure that was built by public works fueled America's rise to the greatest economic power in the world for 40 years after America's greatest public works project, WWII, ended then-----then inattention sent our infrastructure into such disrepair that much of our infrastructure now needs to be replaced.

Keynes was right, Wanniski, Friedman, Laffer, etc. were wrong - the proof is in the empirical puddin'.


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That is a dumb analysis of the article from the economists that wrote it. They said the evidence points to the fact that FDR screwed up the economy more by interfering with it. You have typical Moon Bat confusion.

There are a few things that the government can provide that is worthwhile. Defense, police, courts etc.

It is worthwhile to have a user fee like a fuel tax to pay for roads. After all there ain't no such thing as a free lunch. Somebody has to pay for the roads being built. Of course the filthy ass corrupt inefficient government even screws up doing that by such things as Davis Bacon wages, minority contracts and building bridges to nowhere because of political interference.

However, the stupid idea that a bunch of political assholes, elected by special interest groups, are somehow better at spending the money that we earn rather than ourselves is absolutely the most stupid comment ever made on this discussion forum.

The Depression should have been short lived but that dumbass FDR screwed it up by trying to control the free market and spending money the government have.

Stimulus spending didn't work out with FDR just like it didn't work out with that dumbass Obama and the trillion dollars he wasted back in 2009 and 2010 and it sure as hell will be a failure if (god forbid) this dumbass Crooked Hillary gets elected and does what she promised to do with her ridiculous stimulus idea.

Every cent that the filthy ass government spends is ether taken out of the pockets of the people that earn it nowadays, depressing the economy, (one of the reasons we have such dismal economic growth and poverty is increasing) or the pockets of our children that earn it in the future. Right now our kids are $20 trillion in debt and many haven't even started to work yet.
 
I was born in the 70s so I'm not one of them....but he prolonged the depression, only reason we got out......Facists starting WW2.

Yes, the massive government spending program known as WW2 is what got us out of the depression.
 

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